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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
It's an interesting point though, but I don't think Joedaddy was every really able to prove with evidence that the inconsistency that he alleges exists... actually exists. I think what's clear is that he feels uncomfortable, but unfortunately, we can't accommodate everyone's feelings all the time.
In part, I think where Joedaddy and I (at least) would disagree on this point, is that Joedaddy has equated religious belief with unchangeable biological truths like sex and gender. Yet this is a poor comparison, because while one may choose to subscribe to Catholicism, Lutheranism, Mormonism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Animism, or any other religious world view; one cannot choose to be female or male, gay, straight, or anything in between. Thus where I think Joedaddy misses the point is that religious belief is a question of human choice and is thus open to debate and questioning. However, sexuality and gender are (usually) not subject to human choice and thus we protect people from being objectified or challenged on these characteristics.
But overall, I think the most important point to make is that this is a website about starcraft, and that TL really isn't the right venue to discuss matters of faith in any meaningful detail.
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On January 19 2012 17:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's an interesting point though, but I don't think Joedaddy was every really able to prove with evidence that the inconsistency that he alleges exists... actually exists. I think what's clear is that he feels uncomfortable, but unfortunately, we can't accommodate everyone's feelings all the time.
In part, I think where Joedaddy and I (at least) would disagree on this point, is that Joedaddy has equated religious belief with unchangeable biological truths like sex and gender. Yet this is a poor comparison, because while one may choose to subscribe to Catholicism, Lutheranism, Mormonism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Animism, or any other religious world view; one cannot choose to be female or male, gay, straight, or anything in between. Thus where I think Joedaddy misses the point is that religious belief is a question of human choice and it thus open to debate and questioning. However, sexuality and gender are (usually) not subject to human choice and thus we protect people from being objectified or challenged on these characteristics.
But overall, I think the most important point to make is that this is a website about starcraft, and that TL really isn't the right venue to discuss matters of faith in any meaningful detail.
You sir, have a way with words. Good post ^__^ No wonder your on the writing staff yo.
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Thanks to the Staff for taking time to discuss these things with me. I do appreciate your time and consideration.
Treehugger (and others) are right. I don't have a batch of evidence to support my belief that the standards on mocking/making fun of/etc religion are incredibly lenient. I do feel that over time I could compile a rather large list of posts doing just that with no moderation. I don't think that would help my position though.
I guess in closing, I would just say the following:
I understand the history behind the current policy on religion threads. I agree that discussing religion on the internet is border line impossible to do without flame wars breaking out and turning the thread into a cess pool. However, I think in the interest of equality a forum thread dedicated to a specific religious group to find each other and "hang out" on bnet, MLG's, etc could work. I'm not asking for a thread of content where religious people try to convert the world of TL, argue against opposing beliefs or non-beliefs. I'm only asking for the same thing the Gay Starcraft players have. A thread where like minded people can find each other. Mod headings at the top of threads seem to work quite well, and I feel like a mod warning to stay out of the thread if they are just there to derail it would do wonders.
Regardless of what you believe when it comes to God or the name you call him, I know that the general public here at TL doesn't support discrimination against any 1 group of people. TL Staff, please consider allowing religious groups to open a single thread dedicated solely to people who share a common belief to find each other and have the opportunity to come together to enjoy the one thing we can all agree on, E-Sports!
Thanks again for your time and consideration.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On January 19 2012 18:15 Joedaddy wrote:
I do feel that over time I could compile a rather large list of posts doing just that with no moderation. I don't think that would help my position though.
Just use your report button yo =)
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On January 19 2012 18:32 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 18:15 Joedaddy wrote:
I do feel that over time I could compile a rather large list of posts doing just that with no moderation. I don't think that would help my position though. Just use your report button yo =)
Hehe, I think I'd be to afraid to at this point. I can only imagine the mod notes on my profile after all this XD
+ Show Spoiler +I really hope I didn't paint a big bullseye on my e-back tonight because I really do enjoy and appreciate the work that goes into this site <3333
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
How do you guys feel about the entire SS business? I though it was pretty bad but still slightly open to debate.
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United States44379 Posts
On January 19 2012 18:51 Hassybaby wrote:
How do you guys feel about the entire SS business? I though it was pretty bad but still slightly open to debate.
I thought it looked like a lot of fun and was definitely something I regret not having taken part in.
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Hi I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but their is a really annoying ad on your website some valentine/cupid (possibly dating site, didnt see) thing that when it shows up it beeps (edit: constantly). If you can, please do so.
edit 2: ok i got the ad again its "MyFunCards" and sells cards and has acupid on it and beeps nonstop.
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Hello *clears throat and hears echo*
im new, and i would like to start a small thread introducing myself, and asking a few questions, ive read the 10 commandments (the real ones, written in bits and bytes of black and blue) but i dont know how, could someone help me?
EDIT: Wait, nvm, in an idiot....
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On January 19 2012 15:07 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 14:24 don_kyuhote wrote:
Who is the oldest in the staff and who is the youngest?
and how old/young are they? gtr is the youngest, he's 15 i'm not sure who the oldest is.
Old man Mani?
On January 19 2012 19:46 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 18:51 Hassybaby wrote:
How do you guys feel about the entire SS business? I though it was pretty bad but still slightly open to debate. I thought it looked like a lot of fun and was definitely something I regret not having taken part in.
just go to art school instead
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Calgary26004 Posts
On January 19 2012 18:36 Joedaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 18:32 Pholon wrote:On January 19 2012 18:15 Joedaddy wrote:
I do feel that over time I could compile a rather large list of posts doing just that with no moderation. I don't think that would help my position though. Just use your report button yo =) Hehe, I think I'd be to afraid to at this point. I can only imagine the mod notes on my profile after all this XD + Show Spoiler +I really hope I didn't paint a big bullseye on my e-back tonight because I really do enjoy and appreciate the work that goes into this site <3333
lol, your mod notes:
Joedaddy was just temp banned for 2 days by Jibba.
Removed the ban, was a bit too hasty. - Jibba
OMG STOP THE PRESSES  It's no big deal.
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United States7488 Posts
On January 19 2012 15:08 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 15:07 Antoine wrote:On January 19 2012 14:24 don_kyuhote wrote:
Who is the oldest in the staff and who is the youngest?
and how old/young are they? gtr is the youngest, he's 15 i'm not sure who the oldest is. I want to say Mani is the oldest. Also exactly in the middle of the staff ages is semioldguy
That might actually be pretty close to accurate.
On January 19 2012 17:40 Azera wrote:
Is it necessary for all Mods to only mod when in a bad mood?
I usually mod in a good mood. If I am in a bad mod I try not to do any moderating.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On January 20 2012 01:46 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 15:07 Antoine wrote:On January 19 2012 14:24 don_kyuhote wrote:
Who is the oldest in the staff and who is the youngest?
and how old/young are they? gtr is the youngest, he's 15 i'm not sure who the oldest is. Old man Mani? Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 19:46 KwarK wrote:On January 19 2012 18:51 Hassybaby wrote:
How do you guys feel about the entire SS business? I though it was pretty bad but still slightly open to debate. I thought it looked like a lot of fun and was definitely something I regret not having taken part in. just go to art school instead
Oh flamewheel, you tease us with your cryptic SS clues
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Soo...
What would you guys do with a drunken sailor?
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
GTR is 15!? How old was he when he became mod?
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On January 20 2012 05:12 MCDayC wrote:
GTR is 15!? How old was he when he became mod?
Considering his join date, I´d assume its more "GTR mocking" then anything else
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Osaka27179 Posts
On January 20 2012 05:12 MCDayC wrote:
GTR is 15!? How old was he when he became mod?
GTR has always been, and will always be, 15 on TL.
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Can someone tell me why Combat-Ex made another apology video last year around October? I missed the scene and was not aware of it. I am just curious.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
He wants in on the esports moneyz from streaming.
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Erm,I just noticed I put January instead of February for my month of birth when I registered >_>
It doesn't seem like I can change it,can a nice admin change that for me by any chance?Or am I stuck with being a month older on TL than in real life?
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