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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 02 2012 08:09 GMT
#1321
On July 01 2012 09:42 Candadar wrote:
In a game. AA tells me:

"I know for a FACT that valve classifies Puck as a SUPPORT. So YOU get courier, not me. It's not my job. I'm a mid hero."

-.-


All these people that feel special because they either pick a hard carry or a mid hero makes me laugh ^^
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
July 02 2012 08:11 GMT
#1322
On July 02 2012 17:09 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 09:42 Candadar wrote:
In a game. AA tells me:

"I know for a FACT that valve classifies Puck as a SUPPORT. So YOU get courier, not me. It's not my job. I'm a mid hero."

-.-


All these people that feel special because they either pick a hard carry or a mid hero makes me laugh ^^


If I'm going mid I expect someone else to buy chicken as well.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
July 02 2012 08:16 GMT
#1323
Should never feel entitled to having someone else buy you a courier/wards though. Just because you pick a mid hero does not mean someone is required to buy you items. People wanna play your own game. Sure, if people want to win they will help out their mid hero but sometimes they just want to play lich and nuke some bitches.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
July 02 2012 08:27 GMT
#1324
On July 02 2012 06:57 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 03:14 StoRm_res wrote:
Why am I always the one who has to buy courier and/or upgrade it?


Buy this!
+ Show Spoiler +

You will never NOT want to buy the chicken frog


haha, that's awesome :D
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
July 02 2012 09:01 GMT
#1325
seriously why does everyone feel entitled someone should buy the courier and wards for them, if you want them buy them
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
July 02 2012 09:13 GMT
#1326
On July 02 2012 18:01 cilinder007 wrote:
seriously why does everyone feel entitled someone should buy the courier and wards for them, if you want them buy them

A solo mid might very well lose his lane because of shitty starting items since he had to buy a courier. A support is barely affected.

Solo mids who whine a ton because no one buys a courier might be annoying... but at least they are right, the supports who fail at buying the courier are the idiots.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 09:22:27
July 02 2012 09:21 GMT
#1327
Problem with buying courier when not playing support is that people will pigeonhole you into that role, whether you like it or not. When I'm playing mid and buy the courier because nobody else does, I'm also the one who upgrades it, and when I ask for wards I get "buy them yourself, you're support idiot" as a response.

Edit: Just to clarify; I don't play supports mid, I'm talking about QoP, Viper, OD, etc...
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
July 02 2012 09:25 GMT
#1328
not having a courier on your team will far more likely lose you the lane than investing 150 gold at the start, just saiyan
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 02 2012 09:26 GMT
#1329
On July 02 2012 18:25 cilinder007 wrote:
not having a courier on your team will far more likely lose you the lane than investing 150 gold at the start, just saiyan

Not having a support on your team will make you far more likely to lose than any other reason.
=Þ
RaiKhan
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands69 Posts
July 02 2012 09:27 GMT
#1330
On July 02 2012 18:13 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 18:01 cilinder007 wrote:
seriously why does everyone feel entitled someone should buy the courier and wards for them, if you want them buy them

A solo mid might very well lose his lane because of shitty starting items since he had to buy a courier. A support is barely affected.

Solo mids who whine a ton because no one buys a courier might be annoying... but at least they are right, the supports who fail at buying the courier are the idiots.


I think this is a cop out argument. I enjoy playing solo mid as it is a pure skill based 1v1 fight. I never felt that I win or lose this fight by having an extra mantle of intelligence or equivalent, as that is the only thing you sacrifice when you buy yourself a courier. What is more important is to have that courier upgraded by someone else, because that costs a bit more money, but then again this is not a priority for you on mid if you manage to get the advantage on the lane and control runes well. Basically, it comes down to skill, so no reason to blame that poor nuking lich if you are not being able to outplay the other guy
St.Velten
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany222 Posts
July 02 2012 09:29 GMT
#1331
Get seed vs a 4man stack it ap. 4 times random = 1k gold advantage. They get roaming heros. First blood. 2 more kills. Seeker with pms and cb wins mid with gank support easy. Games snowballed out of control. 21 -1 in 10 mins :/
Wow have not been stomped that hard in a while.

Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
July 02 2012 09:58 GMT
#1332
One thing that is more likely to cause you to lose mid than the +3 stats/one regen item you're missing from buying courier is support buying it and someone using it when you need bottle/boots/salve to stay in your lane or secure a kill. Just buy it yourself.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 10:02:35
July 02 2012 10:01 GMT
#1333
Why do people say BH is a bad hero (especially vs riki like they did earlier)? BH is really sick if the other team doesn't coordinate properly.
Heck, the only games I won vs BH are the ones where I carried gem (on heroes like Druid or Brewmaster), otherwise we always got roflstomped.

Unless you have a considerable amount of stuns, it's really hard to counter him in mid game. Passive + Invi + some crap item such as bfury will give him huge always-rely-on crits. He takes down support heroes soooooo fast, all he has to do is wait for them to cast the disable and then whack them 3 times over the head.

Now, I'm not saying he's a good team hero, but in public games I rarely met people who bought gem/dust/sentry wards more than once. They just fking refuse to do it, even if they do buy obs. wards, and we lose the kill 4 out of 5 times.
And then you see 35min bh with bfury/mkb/vlads/treads that just 2-hits 2 or 3 members of your team who were too busy farming their idiotic items to actually help gang the BH.

Either way, my point was, I'll pick BH over Riki anytime. With normal amounts of farm, BH can stay invi all the time too, but he has track which means riki is pretty much screwed unless he carries gem.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
July 02 2012 10:02 GMT
#1334
solo mids who buy a courier and say NOBODY USE IT EXCEPT FOR ME are also annoying however
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
July 02 2012 10:19 GMT
#1335
people who use the courier to get themselves a bracer recepie at 1:30 into the game so I cant get my bottle min untill min 5 are also anoying
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 02 2012 11:48 GMT
#1336
On July 02 2012 17:16 Hoban wrote:
Should never feel entitled to having someone else buy you a courier/wards though. Just because you pick a mid hero does not mean someone is required to buy you items. People wanna play your own game. Sure, if people want to win they will help out their mid hero but sometimes they just want to play lich and nuke some bitches.


Agree. experienced pub players know when to buy ward for the team regardless what role he is playing. I flamed so hard on the gyro who constantly banking at least 900gold while i was rushing hex (just need the last 2700wand, it was a tough game) but delayed severely by getting alot of ward/dust/gem (got my hex at 50mins and gg straight away, which could be done if i got it 20mins earlier). I almost always buy ward as a carry (especially AM or void who always needs some farm in jungle) if no one did that, and sometimes the semi/support feel ashamed of that and thus buy some wards afterwards xD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
July 02 2012 12:11 GMT
#1337
On July 02 2012 19:02 zeehar wrote:
solo mids who buy a courier and say NOBODY USE IT EXCEPT FOR ME are also annoying however


yeah, then you just gotta use it anyway and let him rage ^^
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 12:16:58
July 02 2012 12:16 GMT
#1338
On July 02 2012 21:11 StoRm_res wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 19:02 zeehar wrote:
solo mids who buy a courier and say NOBODY USE IT EXCEPT FOR ME are also annoying however


yeah, then you just gotta use it anyway and let him rage ^^



and hope he upgrades it too flying courier because he gets tired of waiting for it to trot along :D
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 02 2012 13:34 GMT
#1339
On July 02 2012 18:13 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 18:01 cilinder007 wrote:
seriously why does everyone feel entitled someone should buy the courier and wards for them, if you want them buy them

A solo mid might very well lose his lane because of shitty starting items since he had to buy a courier. A support is barely affected.

Solo mids who whine a ton because no one buys a courier might be annoying... but at least they are right, the supports who fail at buying the courier are the idiots.


That's true, but you can do 3 branches + salve + tangoes + courier which is perfectly fine for all ranged mid heroes. I suppose a melee hero will suffer if he needs the stout shield.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 13:36:19
July 02 2012 13:35 GMT
#1340
On July 02 2012 19:19 cilinder007 wrote:
people who use the courier to get themselves a bracer recepie at 1:30 into the game so I cant get my bottle min untill min 5 are also anoying

that drives me freaking crazy. One time some CM had a fucking +3 str glove delivered via courier (I have no idea why) while my bottle was in the courier and she just stood there spamming the hotkey for delivery so I couldnt get my bottle mid.

also, sometimes you just have to man up and buy the courier even if your going mid. If you dont want to have to deal with that then dont solo queue.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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