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I don't think I've had a good game since the patch. It's actually kind of insane. I'm like 1-11 in the last week or something.
Every time PA is on my team, she loses the contract in the first 5 minutes and gets a 30 minute battlefury
Every time PA in on the other team, she gets the contract in the first 5 minutes and then goes godlike
Every time there's an oracle, he's on my team and does worse than nothing
There is always an enemy zeus, and screw that hero in pubs
The two games that were actually close to going well, someone on my team went afk around 20 minutes in.
At this point, I'm really just curious how long this run will last.
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On November 25 2014 11:12 SolarFlare93 wrote:
STOP FUCKING PICKING PA. FUCK. WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH CARRIES.
Edit: Our Earthshaker can't land a fucking fissure.
Edit2: I am never picking a support again in ranked play. Team cores are always fucking retarded.
About that second edit :3
It is easy to say that but think about it, if every player think the same you will never have supports , how can it be better ?
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Unranked means you can be placed with a party of 4. So its always your fault when something goes wrong -_-"
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Buy wards, buy sentry, buy dust, gank mid, solo kill a split pushing clinkz, but nope, game is lost because of solo support ogre.
Fucking retard invoker, fuck you, you have less gpm at the end than me so go fuck yourself, hope you fucking die like the piece of shit you are.
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Playing Support Slardar (Great in low mmr games as everyone plays melee agility heros). I buy courier and ward runes and lane with Oracle getting him massively fed he ends game 23-8 with most gold. I continue to ward the map and assist in ganks and teamfights ending the game 6-10-37. But the Huskar on our team keeps berating me for not playing support and playing carry instead. Support is a spectrum I don't have to buy all support items to play support. I supported by not last hitting at all and not taking kills so other heros could get fed. He was a massive pessimist all game, every teamfight we didn't win conclusively was gg game over and every time he died it was our fault. Cheer up and stop ruining the fun for everyone else.
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dont fucking ever never ever queue as 4. Just dont. Its like u would expect the fifth guy have one fucking braincell to 1. pick something appropriate 2. play as his/her role is intented to. 3. communicate with party as we try to communicate with u. Except they fail in all of those. Lets pick carry when we have carry and farming mid already. Lets pick cm when we have trilane done and offlane is empty. Lets buy first wards @36min with support disruptor. Lets go die when i save u with my moonlight shadow and shout 5 times BACK!
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On November 25 2014 16:41 LennX wrote:
Unranked means you can be placed with a party of 4. So its always your fault when something goes wrong -_-"
On November 26 2014 00:28 Velzi wrote:
dont fucking ever never ever queue as 4. Just dont. Its like u would expect the fifth guy have one fucking braincell to 1. pick something appropriate 2. play as his/her role is intented to. 3. communicate with party as we try to communicate with u. Except they fail in all of those. Lets pick carry when we have carry and farming mid already. Lets pick cm when we have trilane done and offlane is empty. Lets buy first wards @36min with support disruptor. Lets go die when i save u with my moonlight shadow and shout 5 times BACK!
Same post , different point of view Haha
i think the first is the worst situation since you are alone.
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4.5k PA goes mid vs Slark.
Her item build was tango(1) & a branch for starting items into persevearance.
Zero points in blur before level 8.
Dies to solo Slark.
Blames support for no wards when she fed a 14 min shadow blade.
What. The. Fuck.
edit: Oh right, our hardlane WR was useless too. 1-5-0 in 18 minutes. How is this even possible, I don't get it.
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On November 26 2014 00:40 Arkhe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 16:41 LennX wrote:
Unranked means you can be placed with a party of 4. So its always your fault when something goes wrong -_-" Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 00:28 Velzi wrote:
dont fucking ever never ever queue as 4. Just dont. Its like u would expect the fifth guy have one fucking braincell to 1. pick something appropriate 2. play as his/her role is intented to. 3. communicate with party as we try to communicate with u. Except they fail in all of those. Lets pick carry when we have carry and farming mid already. Lets pick cm when we have trilane done and offlane is empty. Lets buy first wards @36min with support disruptor. Lets go die when i save u with my moonlight shadow and shout 5 times BACK!
Same post , different point of view Haha i think the first is the worst situation since you are alone.
There's a bunch of people in here who regularly complain about being put with 4-stacks tbh. I'm one of them. It is by far the worst feeling in the world because its a circle-jerk of self-righteousness.
Its like...cool, you got 3 mates in the game to back you up about diving in 1v5 and to yell "REPORT PLS" at the other team. Good for you. You're still a potato.
Really wish they'd put solo queue back so I don't have to queue into ANOTHER 4-stack who pick solo offlane/mid/jungler/hard carry and then scream for a support; then go on to complain about 30 minutes brown boots/magic stick.
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On November 26 2014 02:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
? its called ranked
You can still get three-stacks in ranked and they are frequently just as toxic. But it is a bit better.
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On November 26 2014 02:46 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 00:40 Arkhe wrote:On November 25 2014 16:41 LennX wrote:
Unranked means you can be placed with a party of 4. So its always your fault when something goes wrong -_-" On November 26 2014 00:28 Velzi wrote:
dont fucking ever never ever queue as 4. Just dont. Its like u would expect the fifth guy have one fucking braincell to 1. pick something appropriate 2. play as his/her role is intented to. 3. communicate with party as we try to communicate with u. Except they fail in all of those. Lets pick carry when we have carry and farming mid already. Lets pick cm when we have trilane done and offlane is empty. Lets buy first wards @36min with support disruptor. Lets go die when i save u with my moonlight shadow and shout 5 times BACK!
Same post , different point of view Haha i think the first is the worst situation since you are alone. There's a bunch of people in here who regularly complain about being put with 4-stacks tbh. I'm one of them. It is by far the worst feeling in the world because its a circle-jerk of self-righteousness. Its like...cool, you got 3 mates in the game to back you up about diving in 1v5 and to yell "REPORT PLS" at the other team. Good for you. You're still a potato. Really wish they'd put solo queue back so I don't have to queue into ANOTHER 4-stack who pick solo offlane/mid/jungler/hard carry and then scream for a support; then go on to complain about 30 minutes brown boots/magic stick.
I have no clue about the stacks what u are facing but when we (i) play with my stack we usually end up taking whatever positions there is so we have had the random guy playing mid and off and even carry. The offlane suits best imo to the "lonely one" since its easier to communicate with the trilane and mid together when they are in voip or something.
Other thing i didnt mention is that i usually play with my "casual" friends whos hidden mmr is so much lower than mine or other friends who i play and it might cause the case where the random guy is actually the lower end of the team and playing without any higher knowledge behind him to make calls. What i usually try to do is to just check the amount the random guy has played and does he have dotabuff or not and so on to figure out whether should i try to help him to make better moves or let him take control of some core role so we can take the trilane to our party.
I know there are also the stacks who have no clue they really shouldnt blame the fifth one only because they took the core roles and didnt make anything to make support's life easier.
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FUCK some people are really delusional. We took all their outer towers after like 12 mins into the game and needed to keep going because they couldn't defend as long as we were 5. And what does our Drow decide to do? GO FARM JUNGLE :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD And when she finally joined us, she chased heroes into fountain instead of shooting the fucking towers/raxes.
We lost, and now I'm below 4.4k AGAIN.
It's also funny how our entire team plus the entire enemy team agree that Drow lost us the game, and she STILL DOESN'T FUCKING REALISE. FUCK
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I dont understand people that throw intentionally. We tri against axe + dazzle, we dive him, i die with void. Pugna goes "fuck this ure so fucking bad, leaving lane" and he leaves the lane. Like... fucking what. We are level 2. Axe has to run to fountaint, it's like even.
So we are left vs dazzle axe, they dive, creep skip, i die once more to a wrap around. They are a three stack ofcourse, invoker misses them running over river ward, they gank him twice, he whines. Entire three stack is whining. I'm 1-2 they are now like 0 - 4, 1 - 6 and 1-2. Clearly i'm the reason we are losing.
Pugna afks in fountain. I hit a good ult, we nearly wipe them 4 vs5 despite them having farm and levels on us. QoP starts whining over voice, constantly. Pugna still afk. They eventually win, but if team had just played on and not go into emo bitchfit mode after 10min, we'd won easy. Kicker? The one who bitched, whined and moaned the most? Lowest rated, by far. 2800 rating vs our 3.4 and his stacks 3.6k. Always the lowest rated guy that whines the most.
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I have no clue about the stacks what u are facing but when we (i) play with my stack we usually end up taking whatever positions there is so we have had the random guy playing mid and off and even carry. The offlane suits best imo to the "lonely one" since its easier to communicate with the trilane and mid together when they are in voip or something.
Thread is full of complaints about four stacks (many of them from me). You can scroll through to find many many issues people run into. It sounds like your stack are not the typical four-stack assholes but I will point out that the game has built-in VOIP. Just because you guys are in Skype doesn't mean you can't talk in game. I understand using Skype as a backup or exclusively when you're in a group of five but it's a really bad habit of stacks to think "hey I need to communicate about the game but not so much that I'm going to do so where everyone can hear."
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in game voip is mega shitty compared to teamspeak tho
skype is also ass
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On November 26 2014 05:52 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +I have no clue about the stacks what u are facing but when we (i) play with my stack we usually end up taking whatever positions there is so we have had the random guy playing mid and off and even carry. The offlane suits best imo to the "lonely one" since its easier to communicate with the trilane and mid together when they are in voip or something. Thread is full of complaints about four stacks (many of them from me). You can scroll through to find many many issues people run into. It sounds like your stack are not the typical four-stack assholes but I will point out that the game has built-in VOIP. Just because you guys are in Skype doesn't mean you can't talk in game. I understand using Skype as a backup or exclusively when you're in a group of five but it's a really bad habit of stacks to think "hey I need to communicate about the game but not so much that I'm going to do so where everyone can hear."
Yeah everyone knows those four stacks who did one thing and didnt do another. What im trying to tell u is the fact that u shouldnt go in with the attitude "oh again 4-stack, they will force me to play support and im going get flamed no matter what i do".
The point is, there are 4 stacks who actually communicate with the fifth guy. And about the voip its pretty frustrating to listen non-english from the in game voip if u dont understand the language. Unfortunately for many of us its a lot easier to make fast moves and react quickly with our natives so i would rather talk finnish in skype (Teamspeak rather) than in game when theres the (insert our eastern neighbor here) who doesnt even understand what we are saying whether its english or not.
What im also trying to say is that it should be enough for the fifth guy understand our thought and needs with just chatwheel, pings and so on. The problem with the fifth guy listening our "more" free conversion going on through out the game wouldnt be that pleasant either. In the actual game where this conversation began, the random dude didnt take any contact to us no matter what we tried. We picked our heroes, he picked support (which we didnt force him to, or asked him to) and did nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Sure, it sounds like the guy you were playing with was a shit and I don't think all four-stacks are bad, I just think it's common enough they shouldn't be allowed (the format really encourages the kind of negative behavior we observe regularly). Also I didn't take into account the language differences, it does make sense to do most of your talking in your own VOIP if it's uncommon to have a teammate who speaks your language (as long as you're still making essential communications in-game, which it sounds like you are).
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I dont even know what to do with myself, ive went from 3700 mmr to 3100 in less than a month. Im contemplating just un-installing the game, since i get a ranked match, no one picks support, so im normally alone buying wards/mek/sentries/dust, and im poor as fuck. Then i get flamed for "feeding" cause i have no boots at fucking 7 mins and no one wants to chip in and buy wards. I know im not a 3100 player, but at this point the game is just not fun. Oh and if i do pick a carry, there are no supports, and im stuck fighting cs with some ass hole who refuses to let me get farm. Im so done with this shit, like 10 losses inna row, fuck this game.
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