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Sir.Kimmel
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States785 Posts
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#21
pull the cmos battery to verify that I'm right... then buy a new graphics card...
Lets throw in Canada into the mix and we can rename our country to Camerico. --Klogon
celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#22
Its Hardware failure, dont be over dramatic and silly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#23
On July 01 2011 10:00 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 09:47 JingleHell wrote:
On July 01 2011 09:45 billyX333 wrote:
On July 01 2011 09:39 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
lol dude... your hardware is going to hell...... its not your bios bud..... as far as I know there has only been 1 virus that has ever targeted hardware, and it was for a specific motherboard.. a long long time ago...... but yeah somethings going out in ur computer, I'd venture to say graphics card

How do you know its not my BIOS from the given information? Is it just a coincidence that I got about a half dozen symptoms of a virus at the same time as my computer began to crash?


He's not entirely correct, there's been a few, and there was a vulnerability that allowed for a little bit of cross-motherboard compatibility.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/bios-virus-rootkit-security-backdoor,7400.html

Even so, this is just plain rare, and hardware is much more likely to be an issue. And yes, there are coincidences like that.


1 because IT IS a coincidence.... and start testing it, grab an old graphics card toss it in.. problem will be fixed.... or you can simply pull out the battery like u hinted at earlier... simple... quick... and when you plug it back in and it does the same thing my point will be proven

now onto the next comment... let me rephrase that there has been one HUGE outbreak of a virus
affecting the BIOS, but the conditions have to be right with a specific hardware type, the user has to be an idiot and run as administrator, and they have to also not password their bios.... Also, so lets say you finally find that one system, with the right BIOS and version, and you have a virus on there..... and they are running the specific OS version that you are targetting.. what now...

literally this is all theory craft, there has only been one major outbreak of any virus affecting a systems BIOS, the rest is proof of concept, and honestly doesn't matter... its to hard to pull off, and there is no point in an attacker going after hardware and potentially damaging a machine, for instance an example, why would the US government take down a terrorist forum when instead we can just use it to glean information.... I mean come on.... post some actual viruses in the wild, and what they do... instead of posting to some "tomshardware" site...


"some 'tomshardware' site..." Thanks for admitting your claimed qualifications are a load of shit.

Anyways, other than that, you're arguing against me agreeing with you that it's probably coincidence and a hardware issue that he's misdiagnosing. I already said that they're incredibly rare due to terrible saturation. I'm just not going to bother telling him not to try what he's set on trying.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 01 2011 01:06 GMT
#24
On July 01 2011 10:04 celious wrote:
Its Hardware failure, dont be over dramatic and silly.

how am i being over dramatic? Because I'd rather test cost free solutions before throwing down cash?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 01 2011 01:08 GMT
#25
On July 01 2011 10:06 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:04 celious wrote:
Its Hardware failure, dont be over dramatic and silly.

how am i being over dramatic? Because I'd rather test cost free solutions before throwing down cash?


There's nothing wrong with testing the free stuff first, but expecting a BIOS virus over hardware does come off a bit drama-queenish.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 01 2011 01:10 GMT
#26
On July 01 2011 10:03 billyX333 wrote:
Well what do you recommend I do from here? I dont have any spare parts around to test anything. Whats the cheapest solution?


Do you have onboard video and a PCI video card (which you are currently using)?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 01 2011 01:11 GMT
#27
On July 01 2011 10:08 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:06 billyX333 wrote:
On July 01 2011 10:04 celious wrote:
Its Hardware failure, dont be over dramatic and silly.

how am i being over dramatic? Because I'd rather test cost free solutions before throwing down cash?


There's nothing wrong with testing the free stuff first, but expecting a BIOS virus over hardware does come off a bit drama-queenish.

Ok if thats how it seems. I apologize. I just want to fix my computer without throwing it away
leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
July 01 2011 01:12 GMT
#28
your GPU memory is probably dead or dying. find a friend or someone that lives in your area that has a spare old graphic card he is willing to borrow to test the theory.
lulz
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 01 2011 01:12 GMT
#29
On July 01 2011 10:10 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:03 billyX333 wrote:
Well what do you recommend I do from here? I dont have any spare parts around to test anything. Whats the cheapest solution?


Do you have onboard video and a PCI video card (which you are currently using)?

No I don't otherwise I would be testing it out right now
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
July 01 2011 01:15 GMT
#30
On July 01 2011 10:12 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:10 Charger wrote:
On July 01 2011 10:03 billyX333 wrote:
Well what do you recommend I do from here? I dont have any spare parts around to test anything. Whats the cheapest solution?


Do you have onboard video and a PCI video card (which you are currently using)?

No I don't otherwise I would be testing it out right now


Just double checking. Any spare computers in your house you could take the graphics card out of or put your card into to test? Or like someone else mentioned see if a friend in the area can spare a card to test.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
July 01 2011 01:41 GMT
#31
The second picture reveals the real culprit of the issue; you happened to accidentally install Dwarf Fortress into a key system location. Find the folder, uninstall and you should be set.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
SonSon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States106 Posts
July 01 2011 01:44 GMT
#32
Reminds me of all the times my laptop motherboard was fried. I had a 4-year warranty, and each time it was the mobo. It's got to be the mobo/gpu, not a virus.
Horst
Profile Joined November 2010
338 Posts
July 01 2011 02:02 GMT
#33
Yea, that looks a lot like a fried graphics card. I should know, I once decided it would be a good idea to hardware volt-mod my 7800GT back in the day when that was a high-end card. The mod worked, but NOOOO, that wasn't enough for me... I wanted to hook up variable resistors and a voltmeter to the front panel so I could adjust voltage on the fly.

Jackass friend decided to "fiddle with the nobs" on it... ended up turning the voltage WAY TOO HIGH, and the thing started artifacting just like what you got there. The moral is, don't allow for unregulated voltage control of your hardware through the front panel.

You might have viruses as well on your computer, which is responsible for that "you are infected" garbage.
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
July 01 2011 02:56 GMT
#34
obviously dying GPU RAM.
if you want to be sure: if your motherboard has no onboard graphics, get a graphics card from a friend for testing.
Live and let live
Coutcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada519 Posts
July 01 2011 03:17 GMT
#35
Yep GPU card Artifact just google it im pretty sure its that your graphic card is screwed
This is what the world is for Making ELECTRICITY :D
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
July 01 2011 03:20 GMT
#36
Graphics card. If you don't have a graphics card then its your RAM.

Seen it happen too many times at my computer shop.
sup
Swagalisk
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
July 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#37
If you boot up the computer with a CD of anti Virus software or the windows backup/ instaler disk. What you have is a ROOT virus and is one of the most difficult Viruses to get rid of. Hopefully that will do it. If it doesn't IDK what to tell you anymore :/
"The worst thing I can be is the same as everybody else. I hate that." Arnold Schwarzenegger
PraiseB
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia135 Posts
July 01 2011 04:17 GMT
#38
New here so HI.
But I wouldn't dismiss a dodgy fan either. I've seen allot of the fans on cheaper graphics cards just fall off or start hanging by a thread after a while. So another cheap solution could be to just open the case and point a desk fan inside, it's been a temporary fix that has saved my arse a few times.

The best of those was when the fans in our DB server fried and started failing, had to run down to the data centre with a desk fan, pulled it out of the rack and put the fan over the top of it.
Got us through 3 back to back AFL games without missing a beat.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 01 2011 04:23 GMT
#39
One thing you could try and do to prolong the life of your computer is to sacrifice a bit of performance and underclock the graphics card. As electronics age they degrade some and if they degrade too much something like what you're experiencing can happen. I'd try to lower the RAM clocks on the GPU by ~20% and see if it'll help with the issues. It's worth a shot before you go and splurge on a new setup.
jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
July 01 2011 04:40 GMT
#40
Replace your video card. It's fried.
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
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