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StarCraft II announced for Esports World Cup 2025

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ESL announces EPT SC2 discontinued
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 16:23:46
April 04 2025 16:22 GMT
#1
The Esports World Cup has announced that StarCraft II will be played at the 2025 tournament.

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pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States281 Posts
April 04 2025 16:50 GMT
#2
I feel they should announce it half year earlier.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
April 04 2025 16:51 GMT
#3
Fuck yeah!
Tenn0
Profile Joined April 2025
6 Posts
April 04 2025 18:15 GMT
#4
Hell, it's about time...
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2240 Posts
April 04 2025 18:15 GMT
#5
The April Fool's post was just from a time traveler on an unfortunate day that's all.

I'm torn on how to see this, but heck, I'll watch some of the games for sure!
Cogito, ergo Toss
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 18:22:01
April 04 2025 18:18 GMT
#6
Looks like there WILL be qualifiers for EWC unless this was a major oversight in phrasing.

https://imgur.com/a/dWMadUG
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
luxon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States114 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 18:33:05
April 04 2025 18:32 GMT
#7
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33471 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 19:07:46
April 04 2025 19:00 GMT
#8
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


My pleasure

I nobly declined to work EWC in the past, and while it was unfortunate that I could not support the pro SC2 scene, it was not a particularly hard decision for me.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
April 04 2025 21:24 GMT
#9
Our monkey's paw wish was fulfilled with gamers8/EWC:
I wish there was an SC2 tournament with a bigger prize pool than ever!
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
April 04 2025 21:37 GMT
#10
On April 05 2025 06:24 Telephone wrote:
Our monkey's paw wish was fulfilled with gamers8/EWC:
I wish there was an SC2 tournament with a bigger prize pool than ever!


Highly unlikely but It would be definetaly nice also if the money was nicely spread out and not just for the finalists.
Why so serious?
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1816 Posts
April 04 2025 21:51 GMT
#11
Man ... It's going to suck after this tournament is over and we have to wait a year wondering if there will be an EWC in 2026 or if we will have no big tourny at all...
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
324 Posts
April 05 2025 03:33 GMT
#12
On April 05 2025 04:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


My pleasure

I nobly declined to work EWC in the past, and while it was unfortunate that I could not support the pro SC2 scene, it was not a particularly hard decision for me.


I can’t tell if Wax is trolling us or not, but if this is true it’s the best example of money where mouth is in all of esports! It’s depressing to feel like even a peep about legitimate human rights issues could be so triggering.
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
219 Posts
April 05 2025 04:10 GMT
#13
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


You know there's actually nothing wrong with having principles. The world would be a much better place if more people had them, or at the very least didn't pretend and betray theirs.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1917 Posts
April 05 2025 07:47 GMT
#14
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


Oh let me transcribe (hope that word isn't censored by now over there):"I want my life to only be about myself, I don't care about what does not personally inconvenience me and I do not want others to point out my selfishness, because it makes me feel bad and forces me to reflect on myself as a person, which is something I do not wish to do, I would appreciate some acknowledgement for who I am instead."

... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
293 Posts
April 05 2025 08:56 GMT
#15
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


bro gets pre-mad like chugging down a pre-workout lol
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 05 2025 09:17 GMT
#16
I hope they change the format this year, having a proper group stage, or even 2 round of group stage, with double elim playoff. Last year format was weird as hell, with some player lost 1 Bo3 and gone. Also, lets start the "will MaxPax play" hype thing now.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa977 Posts
April 05 2025 10:19 GMT
#17
On April 05 2025 12:33 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 04:00 Waxangel wrote:
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


My pleasure

I nobly declined to work EWC in the past, and while it was unfortunate that I could not support the pro SC2 scene, it was not a particularly hard decision for me.


I can’t tell if Wax is trolling us or not, but if this is true it’s the best example of money where mouth is in all of esports! It’s depressing to feel like even a peep about legitimate human rights issues could be so triggering.


I can imagine he is serious and I at least can state for myself that I will not watch. :/
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
390 Posts
April 05 2025 11:50 GMT
#18
Happy that the players get a final shot at earning some money.

GG.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1897 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-05 19:29:07
April 05 2025 19:14 GMT
#19
On April 05 2025 04:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


My pleasure

I nobly declined to work EWC in the past, and while it was unfortunate that I could not support the pro SC2 scene, it was not a particularly hard decision for me.


I hope you're all ready for a dearth of previews and a lot of random nostalgia pieces.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
April 05 2025 23:46 GMT
#20
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future

Reporting in ^_^

Honestly, even without the whole sportswashing angle, completely separately they’ve dicked around the entire scene for a preposterous length of time at this point. Players and casters worrying about their futures first and foremost, us fans second.

The org is choosing to spend all of its SC2 kitty on one vanity tournament when it’s absolutely not what the scene needs.

I’m not Oliver Bloomin’ Twist with my wee bowl going ‘please sir, can I have some more’ and willing to overlook basically everything associated with this whole Saudi Shebang.

One’s mileage may vary, I’m not about to piss on everyone else’s cornflakes. Just not my cup of tea, at all. GLHF, if folks wanna watch and get enthused, cool.

I think the community has stepped up pretty well thus far, alas it’s not really enough without the skeleton of even a couple of regular circuit events to support much of a full-time pro scene of any depth. But neither is EWC without that skeleton.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18103 Posts
April 08 2025 00:11 GMT
#21
On April 06 2025 08:46 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future

Reporting in ^_^

Honestly, even without the whole sportswashing angle, completely separately they’ve dicked around the entire scene for a preposterous length of time at this point. Players and casters worrying about their futures first and foremost, us fans second.

The org is choosing to spend all of its SC2 kitty on one vanity tournament when it’s absolutely not what the scene needs.

I’m not Oliver Bloomin’ Twist with my wee bowl going ‘please sir, can I have some more’ and willing to overlook basically everything associated with this whole Saudi Shebang.

One’s mileage may vary, I’m not about to piss on everyone else’s cornflakes. Just not my cup of tea, at all. GLHF, if folks wanna watch and get enthused, cool.

I think the community has stepped up pretty well thus far, alas it’s not really enough without the skeleton of even a couple of regular circuit events to support much of a full-time pro scene of any depth. But neither is EWC without that skeleton.


Agreed, I'd rather support and watch PiG sty festival 6, a Homestory Cup, or a Master's Coloseum than this. Has very little to do with Saudi money, which I find dubious enough, but eh.... pecunia non olet. It does have everything to do with how they screwed absolutely every other organizer over with their months of uncertainty, and their "plan" is a single grand finale with no hype creation in advance. I'll just read post-hoc whether Serral or Clem won.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
April 08 2025 05:48 GMT
#22
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


Yes, obviously someone playing a game is more important than political, religious, sexual and social oppression of the worst kinds
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
124 Posts
April 08 2025 06:17 GMT
#23
On April 06 2025 04:14 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 04:00 Waxangel wrote:
On April 05 2025 03:32 luxon wrote:
Cant wait for the virtue signalers to tell us their nobility in once again boycotting the remaining pro event so that we are left with no more events in the future


My pleasure

I nobly declined to work EWC in the past, and while it was unfortunate that I could not support the pro SC2 scene, it was not a particularly hard decision for me.


I hope you're all ready for a dearth of previews and a lot of random nostalgia pieces.

This is a pleasant surprise, especially for the players, as well as for the fans! Wish they had announced it earlier, but I guess better late than never. I'm pretty sure SC2 is the last game they announced, there always used to be a "to be announced" or "check back for more" on the EWC homepage, but no longer.

Having watched every single GSL game (though not all the Code A or qualifiers) plus tons of others since 2010, I'm ready for lots of nostalgia. Was fun when they brought back all the OG legends like 2 years back.

And agree with spreading the prize pool more with the non-finalists, otherwise, unless you end up semi-finalists or higher, the earnings basically can't pay for a living.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3445 Posts
April 08 2025 06:22 GMT
#24
Yes, games are a great escape from society if you're feeling these things.

Who knew when sc2 started that its future would lie in Riadh and belarus?
I really hope the chinese scene brews smth up, it seemed very grass roots and I was impressed by the talent [players].
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3445 Posts
April 08 2025 06:25 GMT
#25
The announcement was supposed to generate hype, that's the only reason for this format of announcement.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1320 Posts
April 08 2025 07:10 GMT
#26
On April 08 2025 15:22 ejozl wrote:
Yes, games are a great escape from society if you're feeling these things.

Who knew when sc2 started that its future would lie in Riadh and belarus?
I really hope the chinese scene brews smth up, it seemed very grass roots and I was impressed by the talent [players].

Belarus?

Do you mean Bulgaria, or did I miss something?
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1227 Posts
April 08 2025 17:00 GMT
#27
On April 08 2025 15:25 ejozl wrote:
The announcement was supposed to generate hype, that's the only reason for this format of announcement.


If you want to get your kids excited for going to McDonalds, you say "hey, we will go to McDonalds tonight". You don't ignore them when they ask whats for dinner tonight and make them think they will have to hunger before then dropping in a bag of fries in the end...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6991 Posts
April 09 2025 08:45 GMT
#28
On April 09 2025 02:00 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2025 15:25 ejozl wrote:
The announcement was supposed to generate hype, that's the only reason for this format of announcement.


If you want to get your kids excited for going to McDonalds, you say "hey, we will go to McDonalds tonight". You don't ignore them when they ask whats for dinner tonight and make them think they will have to hunger before then dropping in a bag of fries in the end...


Haha had to chuckle. That was funny and accurate :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3445 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-10 07:15:33
April 10 2025 07:13 GMT
#29
Yeah sry, bulgaria.

Well, it's no coincidence that sc2 was revealed as the last game, it didn't work, but I think they thought this would result in the most hype. And you could make the mcdonalds thing work, you call down the kids, as you earlier told we might have mcdonalds today, then you say, "sorry mcdonalds was closed.." then as the frowns appear, you pick up the bag of mcdonalds going, "just kiddin!" And wife goes, "oooeh husband what a prankster you are." This would be a great mcdonalds commercial xD
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-13 12:26:29
April 13 2025 12:26 GMT
#30
https://x.com/TwisMinds/status/1911104968225968445

https://x.com/TeamVitality/status/1911389146611859864

transfer season has started!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
futusoja1
Profile Joined April 2025
3 Posts
April 13 2025 17:35 GMT
#31
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futusoja1
Profile Joined April 2025
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April 13 2025 17:36 GMT
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futusoja1
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1227 Posts
April 13 2025 17:44 GMT
#34
On April 13 2025 21:26 Kashim wrote:
https://x.com/TwisMinds/status/1911104968225968445

https://x.com/TeamVitality/status/1911389146611859864

transfer season has started!


Well, apparently WTL did do the right thing disbanding, because this year it will probably be even worse than last year. Might be the last big paycheck for any player, so why not take a few extra-bucks playing for a big Org that will 100% drop them in August?
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
April 13 2025 18:53 GMT
#35
Thats why the whole EPT announcement thing is effing frustrating. If they didnt plan to have a full circuit and just have EWC for this year, then announce it early so teams can just release players early and let them play in WTL.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
April 16 2025 12:12 GMT
#36
Not watching this. Entertainment is not more important than human rights abuses of the worst kind. There is an abundance of other entertainment products out there that are not produced by pervasive human rights abusers.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
April 17 2025 01:08 GMT
#37
On April 16 2025 21:12 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Not watching this. Entertainment is not more important than human rights abuses of the worst kind. There is an abundance of other entertainment products out there that are not produced by pervasive human rights abusers.


If that is your stance. Then your life must be very plain, since everything that we use / consume is from some form of human right exploit. Or do you pick and choose which human right abuser to support?

Anyways, I’ll be watching it the tournament for sure. Hype.
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
124 Posts
April 17 2025 11:54 GMT
#38
On April 16 2025 21:12 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Not watching this. Entertainment is not more important than human rights abuses of the worst kind. There is an abundance of other entertainment products out there that are not produced by pervasive human rights abusers.


With their Vision 2030, they are gradually increasing their stakes in various gaming companies around the world, though. Just the ones I know are EA, Take Two, Activision Blizzard, Scopely, Capcom, Nintendo, Koei, Nexon, and Embracer. In a few years, you just might not be able to watch/play much entertainment at all.

It might be a good thing that the Saudis are integrating more into the international community, that way, they will get more scrutiny in what they do. Eventually, and hopefully, change for the better.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-17 14:06:15
April 17 2025 13:36 GMT
#39
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
April 18 2025 18:41 GMT
#40
On April 17 2025 20:54 johnnyh123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2025 21:12 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
Not watching this. Entertainment is not more important than human rights abuses of the worst kind. There is an abundance of other entertainment products out there that are not produced by pervasive human rights abusers.


With their Vision 2030, they are gradually increasing their stakes in various gaming companies around the world, though. Just the ones I know are EA, Take Two, Activision Blizzard, Scopely, Capcom, Nintendo, Koei, Nexon, and Embracer. In a few years, you just might not be able to watch/play much entertainment at all.

It might be a good thing that the Saudis are integrating more into the international community, that way, they will get more scrutiny in what they do. Eventually, and hopefully, change for the better.

If most people can’t scrutinise (by and large) very obvious sportswashing on relatively peripheral activities, they’re hardly going to when it’s a much deeper financial/entertainment integration.

That said, personally I have much less of an issue with x entity wanting to just make money and investing than I do with sportswashing. There’s no pretence with the former

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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