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ESL Masters Winter: Regional Qualifier Results

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
October 18 2023 17:57 GMT
#1
2023 ESL StarCraft II Masters Winter: Regionals

The qualifiers for the Europe, Americas, and Asia regions of ESL Masters Winter were held on October 13-14, finalizing the rosters for the upcoming regional tournaments. The regionals will be held from October 26th to November 19th.

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Sentikoret
Profile Joined July 2019
20 Posts
October 19 2023 06:41 GMT
#2
Come on, can you at least add "In" and "Out" for each tournament like you did for GSL?
tylorswift
Profile Joined October 2023
1 Post
October 19 2023 06:56 GMT
#3
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
October 19 2023 07:22 GMT
#4
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier
WriterMaru
AcrossFromTime
Profile Joined May 2020
29 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-19 10:04:23
October 19 2023 10:04 GMT
#5
On October 19 2023 16:22 Poopi wrote:
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier

You make a good point. MindeIVK's victory over Mixu has really proven the balance whiners wrong. They are such clowns for not realizing that Rom's victory over Aristori is the proof that Protoss is not underpowered. I mean, if Protoss was underpowered, then how did FightingFrog manage to beat DIMAGA? And if that doesn't prove it, then how about Rodzyn beating Trifax? Something like that could never have happened if Protoss was underpowered. This should shut up the balance whiners once and for all.
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 19 2023 10:08 GMT
#6
On October 19 2023 19:04 AcrossFromTime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2023 16:22 Poopi wrote:
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier

You make a good point. MindeIVK's victory over Mixu has really proven the balance whiners wrong. They are such clowns for not realizing that Rom's victory over Aristori is the proof that Protoss is not underpowered. I mean, if Protoss was underpowered, then how did FightingFrog manage to beat DIMAGA? And if that doesn't prove it, then how about Rodzyn beating Trifax? Something like that could never have happened if Protoss was underpowered. This should shut up the balance whiners once and for all.


What matters is the playoff results and Atlanta, not the qualifiers. Should not give opinion until season concludes.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Herringbone
Profile Joined February 2023
33 Posts
October 20 2023 19:55 GMT
#7
On October 19 2023 19:08 Philippe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2023 19:04 AcrossFromTime wrote:
On October 19 2023 16:22 Poopi wrote:
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier

You make a good point. MindeIVK's victory over Mixu has really proven the balance whiners wrong. They are such clowns for not realizing that Rom's victory over Aristori is the proof that Protoss is not underpowered. I mean, if Protoss was underpowered, then how did FightingFrog manage to beat DIMAGA? And if that doesn't prove it, then how about Rodzyn beating Trifax? Something like that could never have happened if Protoss was underpowered. This should shut up the balance whiners once and for all.


What matters is the playoff results and Atlanta, not the qualifiers. Should not give opinion until season concludes.



Why? It's clearly not a balance problem when you see the qualifier results. It's so obvious it's a top 5 or top 10 player in the world thing and it's actually overpowered at all other levels.
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
October 20 2023 20:11 GMT
#8
On October 21 2023 04:55 Herringbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2023 19:08 Philippe wrote:
On October 19 2023 19:04 AcrossFromTime wrote:
On October 19 2023 16:22 Poopi wrote:
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier

You make a good point. MindeIVK's victory over Mixu has really proven the balance whiners wrong. They are such clowns for not realizing that Rom's victory over Aristori is the proof that Protoss is not underpowered. I mean, if Protoss was underpowered, then how did FightingFrog manage to beat DIMAGA? And if that doesn't prove it, then how about Rodzyn beating Trifax? Something like that could never have happened if Protoss was underpowered. This should shut up the balance whiners once and for all.


What matters is the playoff results and Atlanta, not the qualifiers. Should not give opinion until season concludes.



Why? It's clearly not a balance problem when you see the qualifier results. It's so obvious it's a top 5 or top 10 player in the world thing and it's actually overpowered at all other levels.


Everybody on either side is balance complaining against or in favor of either of the three races (the GSL topic, the main patch topic and THAT topic). Instead of really paying more attention about the impact for everybody else who is just there to play without competitive pressure. Learning more about the effects of the patch while watching the likes of PiG than reading the Twitch chats or the GSL's YouTube.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Snakestyle1
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
October 20 2023 20:19 GMT
#9
Now can anyone imagine what those numbers will look like when they *balance* the game so that protoss players can beat serral in grand finals of premier tournaments?

This is exactly why they are careful to buff protoss.

Protoss needs to be made more difficult before it can be buffed harder, or the entire 6k+ MMR bracket is 70% protoss, which makes the game trash to play.
Snakestyle1
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-20 22:05:09
October 20 2023 22:02 GMT
#10
accident
Herringbone
Profile Joined February 2023
33 Posts
October 21 2023 01:42 GMT
#11
On October 21 2023 05:11 Philippe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2023 04:55 Herringbone wrote:
On October 19 2023 19:08 Philippe wrote:
On October 19 2023 19:04 AcrossFromTime wrote:
On October 19 2023 16:22 Poopi wrote:
Protoss still struggling so much after the patch
no big surprise in any of the qualifier

You make a good point. MindeIVK's victory over Mixu has really proven the balance whiners wrong. They are such clowns for not realizing that Rom's victory over Aristori is the proof that Protoss is not underpowered. I mean, if Protoss was underpowered, then how did FightingFrog manage to beat DIMAGA? And if that doesn't prove it, then how about Rodzyn beating Trifax? Something like that could never have happened if Protoss was underpowered. This should shut up the balance whiners once and for all.


What matters is the playoff results and Atlanta, not the qualifiers. Should not give opinion until season concludes.



Why? It's clearly not a balance problem when you see the qualifier results. It's so obvious it's a top 5 or top 10 player in the world thing and it's actually overpowered at all other levels.


Everybody on either side is balance complaining against or in favor of either of the three races (the GSL topic, the main patch topic and THAT topic). Instead of really paying more attention about the impact for everybody else who is just there to play without competitive pressure. Learning more about the effects of the patch while watching the likes of PiG than reading the Twitch chats or the GSL's YouTube.



But why do we have to wait for Atlanta to comment? They just ran qualifiers with a more even pool of skill levels then what Atlanta will be and the results of three regions were 19 Protoss, 7 Terran, and 6 zerg. Why is this less conclusive then if Serral or Maru win Masters Winter.
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