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The 16 players in the Code S RO16 will be:
The top 4 players from the last Super Tournament
The top 4 players form qualifiers.
The top 8 players from Code A.
2021 GSL outline "Code A" returns!
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machinus
United States291 Posts
The 16 players in the Code S RO16 will be: The top 4 players from the last Super Tournament The top 4 players form qualifiers. The top 8 players from Code A.
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gammaglobulin1
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machinus
United States291 Posts
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LaughNgamezAfreeca
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kubaPS
Germany162 Posts
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lechatnoir
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freelifeffs
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Waxangel
United States33554 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:11 gammaglobulin1 wrote: Smaller prize pool by quite a significant margin. Apparently Afreeca will be providing the prize pool themselves next year? ionno where this hearsay keeps coming from GSL is really richly prized compared to how much KR viewership it gets. I would think it's almost certainly being heavily bankrolled by Blizz. If Afreeca_Chae or anyone else wants to clarify I'd be more than happy to hear tho  Also it's $430,800 in 2021 compared to $480,000 in 2020. That's a drop, but not a 'significant' in my view (esp considering army etc). | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
And having qualifiers in addition to Code A, does that mean that GSL is giving foreigners a chance to qualify for Code S remotely? If not, why bother having separate qualifiers when they can just make Code A bigger (or double elim)? | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1601 Posts
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
I'm happy that there are still GSL tournaments to support the Korean scene for 2021. Any bit of money will help in case you know competitive scene is going away after 2022. | ||
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tommey.liang
United States363 Posts
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B42b42oss4
Germany40 Posts
On December 14 2020 03:12 Vutalisk wrote: This rebrand of Ro24 of Code S to be Code A is cute and all but effectively changing nothing. I'm happy that there are still GSL tournaments to support the Korean scene for 2021. Any bit of money will help in case you know competitive scene is doing away after 2022. That is not true. Code A is 16 spots with the top 8 advancing to the RO16 GSL. That makes 8 more spots then RO24 GSL this year. Thats a plus of 8 spots. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:54 B42b42oss4 wrote: That is not true. Code A is 16 spots with the top 8 advancing to the RO16 GSL. That makes 8 more spots then RO24 GSL this year. Thats a plus of 8 spots. I don't understand. In 2021, Code A + Code S will feature 24 players, same as Code S this year, no? | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:54 B42b42oss4 wrote: That is not true. Code A is 16 spots with the top 8 advancing to the RO16 GSL. That makes 8 more spots then RO24 GSL this year. Thats a plus of 8 spots. I don't follow your math. On December 14 2020 06:21 JustPassingBy wrote: I don't understand. In 2021, Code A + Code S will feature 24 players, same as Code S this year, no? Code S this year was 28 players... | ||
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esReveR
United States567 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:13 machinus wrote: They have not had audiences for a year, It's not clear when they will be allowed to have them back in the studio. I'm sure that has had an effect. I doubt it. Watching GSL in-person is free. It's nice to have Code A back. Hopefully we can see some new players thrive. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17725 Posts
as it is, this is basically just renaming the first round of Code S to Code A, but they made it single elim bo5 instead of groups? that sounds like a bad change, you can really get screwed by bracket luck | ||
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Andi_Goldberger
Germany1608 Posts
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irvnasty
United States211 Posts
a) There will now be 3 Supertournaments. b) The GSL will have 24 players rather than 28. c) Instead of the 6x 4-player Ro28 groups, there will be 16 players playing head-to-head in Bo5 to get into the Code S Ro16 groups, so effectively one group stage, not two. d) This also means that the process of getting to 16 players will probably take 4 days of Code A Bo5s rather than 6 days of groups. e) As long as qualifiers are at least a little bit before the Code A Bo5s and the Code A Bo5 matchups are drawn a little in advance, we may see players able to prepare specifically for a single opponent. f) Because top-4 in Supertournament is a qualifying criterion for Code S, the first Korean tournament of 2021 will be a Supertournament. Anything else of note? | ||
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keaneu
Korea (South)65 Posts
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mark_lenders
74 Posts
On December 14 2020 09:18 irvnasty wrote: Can someone check and see if I have the pertinent info correct? Anything else of note? all seems correct the big mistery at the moment for me is how they'll determine the 16 code A spots. inside the qualifier for the 4 RO16 spots? or with a different system? | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On December 14 2020 05:54 B42b42oss4 wrote: That is not true. Code A is 16 spots with the top 8 advancing to the RO16 GSL. That makes 8 more spots then RO24 GSL this year. Thats a plus of 8 spots. I'm not sure if you are just bad at math or you are trolling. GSL has been 24-players in the first group stage this whole year. So 8 players from Code A advancing to meet 16 players from Code S = 24 players. Exact the same amount of players. How is that different from this year Code S? | ||
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mark_lenders
74 Posts
On December 14 2020 09:35 Vutalisk wrote: I'm not sure if you are just bad at math or you are trolling. GSL has been 24-players in the first group stage this whole year. So 8 players from Code A advancing to meet 16 players from Code S = 24 players. Exact the same amount of players. How is that different from this year Code S? GSL in 2020 had 28 players | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17725 Posts
On December 14 2020 09:35 Vutalisk wrote: I'm not sure if you are just bad at math or you are trolling. GSL has been 24-players in the first group stage this whole year. So 8 players from Code A advancing to meet 16 players from Code S = 24 players. Exact the same amount of players. How is that different from this year Code S? that's not what the picture says, the picture says top 8 from Code A meet the top 4 from super tournament and top 4 from qualifiers, that's 16 players, and it even says they play in the Code S round of 16 On December 12 2020 20:56 machinus wrote: The 16 players in the Code S RO16 will be: The top 4 players from the last Super Tournament The top 4 players form qualifiers. The top 8 players from Code A. and GSL had 28 players  Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 3but now it will only be 24 players total between Code A and Code S, I wish they would make Code A bigger | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
Yes the total is 28 but I meant the first group stage is 24. The other 4 are invited so they didn't play anything until Ro16. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3477 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33554 Posts
But obviously this 2021 change implies that it's coming back as a broadcasted tournament with more weight. | ||
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col_jung
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 14 2020 10:57 ejozl wrote: A bit weird to have bo5 -> the groups we usually have, which I assume are still bo3. They are. Bo5 groups and Bo7 quarterfinals would be great imo. Also curious if this already tells us something about EPT. Will they do 3x season finals to line up with Code S, plus 3x foreigner only (or regional) tournaments to line up with super tournament? Excited to see the details. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On December 14 2020 17:13 sneakyfox wrote: They are. Bo5 groups and Bo7 quarterfinals would be great imo. Also curious if this already tells us something about EPT. Will they do 3x season finals to line up with Code S, plus 3x foreigner only (or regional) tournaments to line up with super tournament? Excited to see the details. Oh that would be great!!! Could someone suggest this to Afreeca? I hope this means that we will get 3 GSL Code S, 3 Super Tournaments and 3 Global Season Finals (top Korean vs Top foreigners) like we have had with Dreamhack Masters. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3477 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
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LaughNgamezAfreeca
129 Posts
On December 14 2020 20:56 Kaizor wrote: We need Curious and Yugioh to be back now !! Curious maybe but I haven't heard of Yugioh since I entered the scene | ||
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Waxangel
United States33554 Posts
On December 14 2020 20:56 Kaizor wrote: We need Curious and Yugioh to be back now !! Curious is the fill-in caster when TY is playing. Thus, he's actually around a lot  | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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DSK
England1110 Posts
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Nightglider
13 Posts
Doubt it'll be worth the investment. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On December 15 2020 04:55 Nightglider wrote: Seems weird to me because they had to scratch RO32 of code S because of the lack of players, and now they're announcing Code A again? Seems like a desperate move to get some new blood competing without having to fear to be drawn against titans like Rogue and Maru etc.. Doubt it'll be worth the investment. With this they're actually cutting 4 more people from every season of GSL | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Also i'd like to know a little more on the requirements, i wouldn't mind trying ( i remember going to one in 2011/12, there were quite a few foreigner and the mood was very special, it was like conquering new lands ahah ) | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17725 Posts
On December 14 2020 20:56 Kaizor wrote: We need Curious and Yugioh to be back now !! On December 15 2020 02:00 dUTtrOACh wrote: Broadcasting the qualifiers should be good exposure for the players struggling to break the ceiling into the Code S upper echelons. For those complaining that the scene is growing stale (due to always seeing the same players in Code S), this change might help alleviate those concerns and help generate some hype for future prospects that they otherwise wouldn't have until reaching Code S. On December 15 2020 02:46 DSK wrote: Hell yes, Code A! more KR starcraft to watch!. On December 15 2020 04:55 Nightglider wrote: Seems weird to me because they had to scratch RO32 of code S because of the lack of players, and now they're announcing Code A again? Seems like a desperate move to get some new blood competing without having to fear to be drawn against titans like Rogue and Maru etc.. Doubt it'll be worth the investment. On December 15 2020 06:28 shid0x wrote: that's a good news, i hope to see some old faces try the Code A qualifiers ! ( forgg to name someone ) Also i'd like to know a little more on the requirements, i wouldn't mind trying ( i remember going to one in 2011/12, there were quite a few foreigner and the mood was very special, it was like conquering new lands ahah ) I feel like we need some bold text in the OP that reminds everyone that this means we will see LESS players in GSL, not more... Code A and Code S combined will be 24 players each season in 2020 we had 28 players in each season this is a downgrade | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17725 Posts
On December 15 2020 06:50 Blargh wrote: Honestly, anything at all is sort of impressive at this point. I felt so bad when they were doing the qualifiers for that Last Chance qualifier qualifier, and like, 15 people signed up. Unfortunately, the skill gap is getting larger because the only people who have reason to practice are those who can win stuff. At this point, you can pretty much consider the Korean scene a set of 30 players... yea I agree, good job to Afreeca for keeping it going at all, but I just see a lot of confused people in the comments that are celebrating based on a misunderstanding | ||
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Alpharius
Vietnam39 Posts
I usually enjoy BO5 more but bracket luck might make them very one-sided. What's your thought about this shift? | ||
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jahangir3011
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On December 15 2020 06:50 Blargh wrote: Honestly, anything at all is sort of impressive at this point. I felt so bad when they were doing the qualifiers for that Last Chance qualifier qualifier, and like, 15 people signed up. Unfortunately, the skill gap is getting larger because the only people who have reason to practice are those who can win stuff. At this point, you can pretty much consider the Korean scene a set of 30 players... Its a small miracle that a game so dead in Korea has a good prizepool and a lot of tournaments. Korea doesn't have enough of a population playing this game for new stars to rise up, the argument that its hard to break out in a scene with so many good players makes no sense, because the number of players able to take a series out of a top Korean rises everyday. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
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