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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
December 01 2020 08:16 GMT
#1
Chinese team (Wiki)Brave Star Gaming, which has come second place in GTC 2020 Spring and third place in NeXT 2020 Spring, has announced the end of their organization.

Since (Wiki)Scarlett left the team a bit earlier already, the only two remaining players under contract were (Wiki)Dream and (Wiki)Cyan, who are now free agents. The team will still cover their salaries throughout December to give them some time for finding a new home.

With this departure, things look a bit more bleak for the future of the GTC and the combined Korean/Chinese scene.

Source: scboy.com
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kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
December 01 2020 08:23 GMT
#2
Let's hope some new teams will form now. There are some good free agents available now!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 01 2020 10:09 GMT
#3
This is so sad.
There are so many teamless players right now in Korea, that could actually impact the salary thoses players can negotiate...
Lets hope
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 02 2020 06:43 GMT
#4
Frankly, personally I'd speculate more bad news to follow suit in the near future. ;(
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
December 02 2020 07:16 GMT
#5
I thought sc2 could fight off more then 2 years but now fear of becoming new wc3 is real.
ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 02 2020 08:16 GMT
#6
Blizzard has been reluctant to authorize the revenue sharing of in-game products, resulting in users not being able to directly purchase in-game products to support related activities. At the same time, paid project updates are stopped, there will be no exclusive activity skins, and there will be no war chests. Organizers and teams can only seek profitability from the outside. Blizzard is slowly pushing StarCraft to extinction.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
December 02 2020 18:42 GMT
#7
On December 02 2020 17:16 ReZero wrote:
Blizzard has been reluctant to authorize the revenue sharing of in-game products, resulting in users not being able to directly purchase in-game products to support related activities. At the same time, paid project updates are stopped, there will be no exclusive activity skins, and there will be no war chests. Organizers and teams can only seek profitability from the outside. Blizzard is slowly pushing StarCraft to extinction.


Blizzard isn't pushing it to extinction, they merely pulled the plug on it's life support. The game is no longer financially viable, and scene was being directly supported by Blizzard.
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Bomzj
Profile Joined July 2018
Belarus24 Posts
December 02 2020 20:00 GMT
#8
Blizzard could open source starcraft 2, since there is no interest to support the game anymore. So community would implement needed updates, fixes/patches to prolong the game's life.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 02 2020 20:17 GMT
#9
So, if they do not drop the „Chinese“ rule, in order to win over some teams from countries to join, this looks really bad for the league now, doesn‘t it?
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
December 02 2020 20:35 GMT
#10
Wooow this comes after a few days that Jin Air Greenwings disbanded. Wonder what this all means..
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ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 03 2020 00:33 GMT
#11
On December 03 2020 03:42 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 17:16 ReZero wrote:
Blizzard has been reluctant to authorize the revenue sharing of in-game products, resulting in users not being able to directly purchase in-game products to support related activities. At the same time, paid project updates are stopped, there will be no exclusive activity skins, and there will be no war chests. Organizers and teams can only seek profitability from the outside. Blizzard is slowly pushing StarCraft to extinction.


Blizzard isn't pushing it to extinction, they merely pulled the plug on it's life support. The game is no longer financially viable, and scene was being directly supported by Blizzard.

Blizzard unplugged the ventilator.
GameLocalizer
Profile Joined November 2020
9 Posts
December 03 2020 02:01 GMT
#12
Yea all these people blaming Blizz.. they've been keeping the scene awash in cash for years... even after pulling the plug on their newer products..
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1284 Posts
December 03 2020 04:46 GMT
#13
On December 03 2020 05:35 tommey.liang wrote:
Wooow this comes after a few days that Jin Air Greenwings disbanded. Wonder what this all means..


Those two events probably don't have anything in common. Being an airline, it is much more likely Jin Air just suffered heavy financial loses in the COVID-crisis, so they had to make every budget cut possible.
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 03 2020 07:33 GMT
#14
Most of these Chinese teams are directly sponsored by rich Chinese who has a interest in starcraft for fun and glory. Chinese economy is going shit right now, don't look at the numbers, as we all know what Chinese numbers means, kappa.
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
December 03 2020 07:34 GMT
#15
Although If I am not mistaken, I do believe scboy wants to drop the Chinese player rule to take in some more western team.
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pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-03 08:32:14
December 03 2020 08:27 GMT
#16
Scboy just said that another rich Chinese guy will take over BSG and already signed Cyan and Dream, and probably also Patience.
They also plan to contact Team Liquid, NV, Qlash, and probably exon today to ask them if they have interesting about next season's team league.
ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 03 2020 09:03 GMT
#17
On December 03 2020 17:27 pzlama333 wrote:
Scboy just said that another rich Chinese guy will take over BSG and already signed Cyan and Dream, and probably also Patience.
They also plan to contact Team Liquid, NV, Qlash, and probably exon today to ask them if they have interesting about next season's team league.

This is a very good thing, but I also hope that everyone knows that we still need to find a way to help the team gain profits, so that is the way to solve the fundamental problem.
ReZero
Profile Joined April 2019
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 03 2020 09:12 GMT
#18
On December 03 2020 16:34 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Although If I am not mistaken, I do believe scboy wants to drop the Chinese player rule to take in some more western team.

This rule may be cancelled next season. The original intention of this rule was to give Chinese professional players a stable working environment for the team. However, with the dissolution of many teams, what needs to be solved is to prevent the disappearance of the league. But this is not charity, the league still needs profit points, otherwise it will still disappear.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
December 03 2020 09:42 GMT
#19
On December 03 2020 17:27 pzlama333 wrote:
Scboy just said that another rich Chinese guy will take over BSG and already signed Cyan and Dream, and probably also Patience.
They also plan to contact Team Liquid, NV, Qlash, and probably exon today to ask them if they have interesting about next season's team league.


Oh wow that would be dope!
How is ping from EU/ NA to Chinese servers anyway? Is it playable?
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keaneu
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)65 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-03 10:57:49
December 03 2020 10:55 GMT
#20
On December 03 2020 18:42 Harris1st wrote:

Oh wow that would be dope!
How is ping from EU/ NA to Chinese servers anyway? Is it playable?


Even ping from Korea => CN servers are spiky, which is why they use KR server for tournaments (CN => KR is best). EU/NA => CN are almost unplayable.
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osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-03 11:33:22
December 03 2020 11:30 GMT
#21
On December 03 2020 18:42 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2020 17:27 pzlama333 wrote:
Scboy just said that another rich Chinese guy will take over BSG and already signed Cyan and Dream, and probably also Patience.
They also plan to contact Team Liquid, NV, Qlash, and probably exon today to ask them if they have interesting about next season's team league.


Oh wow that would be dope!
How is ping from EU/ NA to Chinese servers anyway? Is it playable?


Afaik, they've never played any games on the Chinese servers in the CTC, because ping is unplayable for foreigners. SCBoy mentioned on stream something along the line "play one game on KR server and one game on EU/US server since it's BO2, so it's fair for EU/US players". The organizers seem to be quite considerate.
keaneu
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)65 Posts
December 03 2020 11:54 GMT
#22
On December 03 2020 20:30 osliang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2020 18:42 Harris1st wrote:
On December 03 2020 17:27 pzlama333 wrote:
Scboy just said that another rich Chinese guy will take over BSG and already signed Cyan and Dream, and probably also Patience.
They also plan to contact Team Liquid, NV, Qlash, and probably exon today to ask them if they have interesting about next season's team league.


Oh wow that would be dope!
How is ping from EU/ NA to Chinese servers anyway? Is it playable?


Afaik, they've never played any games on the Chinese servers in the CTC, because ping is unplayable for foreigners. SCBoy mentioned on stream something along the line "play one game on KR server and one game on EU/US server since it's BO2, so it's fair for EU/US players". The organizers seem to be quite considerate.


Unless offline matches of course. CTC/GTC disambiguation
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kkapi
Profile Joined June 2019
China8 Posts
December 03 2020 12:40 GMT
#23
Good news, according to scboy, BSG has got a new sponsor so it'll probably revive!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
December 03 2020 13:47 GMT
#24
Hey that s some amazing news POG
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