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[Svall]Granis
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Sweden94 Posts
August 17 2020 06:19 GMT
#1


Just posted on twitter

"I am here to announce my retirement today. I will be serving my mandatory military service in October. I wanted to give one last shot at a title in one of the premier tournaments before doing so. Although it’s disappointing that I wasn’t able to accomplish it, I am glad that I got the opportunity to meet many pro players, staff members, and fans. The experience that I had with all of the mentioned above will remain as valuable memories to me. I will never forget such experiences and my career as a professional Starcraft 2 player.
I appreciate the support that you have given to me and I hope our paths cross again one day"
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FlopperDoge
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
August 17 2020 06:49 GMT
#2
It was a pleasure to root for Dear. Sad to see another tentpole Protoss go.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
August 17 2020 06:56 GMT
#3
I sort of wonder where things will be once he's done with his service. I'm not terribly optimistic given the current state on top of the pandemic.

Maybe there will be a new RTS out there!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 17 2020 07:06 GMT
#4
Given that it's military service, I'm just glad he ended up satisfied with his sc2 career. Hopefully he moves onto something greater in the future; it was always a pleasure to watch him play.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 17 2020 07:07 GMT
#5
mouz ruined Dear.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 17 2020 07:23 GMT
#6
Stats and Dear departing at the same time. Big time blow to Protoss but perhaps an opportunity for some new blood to rise. Who knows.

Bon Voyage Dear, hope the military treats you right!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
August 17 2020 07:23 GMT
#7
Another great toss players leaving again. Hope the new talents like Prince and Astrea can make something happen in future.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
August 17 2020 07:30 GMT
#8
Sad, I will never forget those LEGENDARY games against Maru. All the best Dear in the future...
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3543 Posts
August 17 2020 07:38 GMT
#9
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 17 2020 07:42 GMT
#10
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
August 17 2020 07:44 GMT
#11
Good luck to you Dear, I will never forget your run at the end of 2013, absolutely on fire.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3543 Posts
August 17 2020 07:45 GMT
#12
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 17 2020 08:03 GMT
#13
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 17 2020 08:06 GMT
#14
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

I Don t realy see SOS doing well anytime soon
Trapand PartinG it is for now..
Any Protoss coming back from militarry anytime soon?
MaxPax
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3543 Posts
August 17 2020 08:07 GMT
#15
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

Protoss is korea the next years gonna be (hopefully some ppl can step up)
XDEKSDEEXD
Profile Joined June 2013
622 Posts
August 17 2020 08:24 GMT
#16
Was never a huge fan of Dear, but when someone posts something like this, all of a sudden I feel I have to sympathize with him.....all the best Dear!
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
August 17 2020 08:29 GMT
#17
For a short time, he was the best player in the world.
Farewell Dear ! It will be tough for the protoss race.
And what about Zest, he has to go soon too right ?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2020 08:41 GMT
#18
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-17 08:43:37
August 17 2020 08:43 GMT
#19
On August 17 2020 17:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

I Don t realy see SOS doing well anytime soon
Trapand PartinG it is for now..
Any Protoss coming back from militarry anytime soon?

The one who'd come back earliest is Classic in late 2021.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
120720
Profile Blog Joined July 2020
95 Posts
August 17 2020 08:50 GMT
#20
On August 17 2020 17:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

I Don t realy see SOS doing well anytime soon
Trapand PartinG it is for now..
Any Protoss coming back from militarry anytime soon?


Should we announce a 100k tournament?
EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
115 Posts
August 17 2020 08:58 GMT
#21
fantastic player , will be missed
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1912 Posts
August 17 2020 09:04 GMT
#22
never forget his Royal Road.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#23
GG
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#24
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#25
On August 17 2020 17:50 120720 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

I Don t realy see SOS doing well anytime soon
Trapand PartinG it is for now..
Any Protoss coming back from militarry anytime soon?


Should we announce a 100k tournament?

Doesn't look like it works anymore
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
August 17 2020 09:38 GMT
#26
This sucks. I did have a bad feeling Dear was gonna retire when he didn't join a new team after leaving KZ.

Dear is probably a top 10 protoss of all time and even if he hasn't been playing at his former level for a while, he's still one of the few toss players capable of making ro16 and even ro8 in Code S. With him gone and Zest and Stats presumably going to the military soon too, there will only be 3 relevant protosses in Korea...
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
August 17 2020 09:48 GMT
#27
barely any pros left for korean sc2
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 17 2020 10:53 GMT
#28
Thank you for all the great games and all the best for the future!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26775 Posts
August 17 2020 11:42 GMT
#29
Aw man
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-17 11:45:44
August 17 2020 11:44 GMT
#30
Mandatory military service has decimated the korean protoss scene. How soon until stats zest follows the likes of classic, hero, and dear? They're both 28.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
August 17 2020 11:53 GMT
#31
Nooo...damn you Military!!
~~(,,ºº>
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
August 17 2020 11:54 GMT
#32
Sad to see him go, hope he comes back after his military though. GGs forever Dear.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
August 17 2020 12:05 GMT
#33
man im getting so depressed over the state of the korean scene, really sad to see.

I remember rooting for Dears royal road and always liked his play. good luck in the army I guess
~~~~~
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
August 17 2020 12:18 GMT
#34
oh dear!
How may help u?
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
August 17 2020 12:30 GMT
#35
Not an easy time for this old STX Soul fan. With Classic and Dear gone, there's only Trap and Innovation left.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2020 12:36 GMT
#36
On August 17 2020 18:06 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/


Yea, and it's even harder when they go earlier than they need to. Dear could have played for two more years.

Still, I guess we just have to accept that this is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. In a sense there is no use in getting depressed every time a player retires when we can already see it coming.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
August 17 2020 12:44 GMT
#37
The way he putted words doesn't feel like he will be back for progaming after the service.
:3
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3543 Posts
August 17 2020 12:50 GMT
#38
On August 17 2020 21:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 18:06 Penev wrote:
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/


Yea, and it's even harder when they go earlier than they need to. Dear could have played for two more years.

Still, I guess we just have to accept that this is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. In a sense there is no use in getting depressed every time a player retires when we can already see it coming.

Maybe it is related to his health issues he had recently? Anyways really sad
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
August 17 2020 13:04 GMT
#39
Wish Dear all the best! He had some periods of beast mode, sadly mouz did ruin that and Dear never really got his old magic back after that.

In regards to a possible return, I think most players going to military service retire without a plan for going back, The decision to make a come back or return to the scene in some other role is something that only be made after knowing the state of the scene and seeing if you can regain top GM form after release.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
August 17 2020 13:19 GMT
#40
Dear - the protoss who showed for a first time some top macro toss gameplay back in 2013. Especially his PvT is legendary for its time and incredibly scary. I saw glimpses of a long macro games earlier by Seed and Liquid Hero for a first time, but Dear was the first who clearly showed the future of the protoss players who later dominated especially in Korea. Rain of course did the same but back then Dear was beating everybody for a period of 4 months until Jaedong stopped him at Blizzcon. What Dear actually started, Zest later turned it into doctrine.
And also Dear was three times semi-finalist in Code S in a row which is still a great achievement of consistency. That happened in the end of 2015 and the whole 2016.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
August 17 2020 14:21 GMT
#41
hell be back
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26775 Posts
August 17 2020 14:28 GMT
#42
On August 17 2020 22:19 Veluvian wrote:
Dear - the protoss who showed for a first time some top macro toss gameplay back in 2013. Especially his PvT is legendary for its time and incredibly scary. I saw glimpses of a long macro games earlier by Seed and Liquid Hero for a first time, but Dear was the first who clearly showed the future of the protoss players who later dominated especially in Korea. Rain of course did the same but back then Dear was beating everybody for a period of 4 months until Jaedong stopped him at Blizzcon. What Dear actually started, Zest later turned it into doctrine.
And also Dear was three times semi-finalist in Code S in a row which is still a great achievement of consistency. That happened in the end of 2015 and the whole 2016.

For sure, great player in his heyday. Dropped to merely a good player but had one hell of a career
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2020 14:44 GMT
#43
On August 17 2020 21:50 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 21:36 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2020 18:06 Penev wrote:
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/


Yea, and it's even harder when they go earlier than they need to. Dear could have played for two more years.

Still, I guess we just have to accept that this is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. In a sense there is no use in getting depressed every time a player retires when we can already see it coming.

Maybe it is related to his health issues he had recently? Anyways really sad


You certainly can't blame him for wanting to get the military over with when he's in a time of injuries and bad performances (and meta) anyway.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 17 2020 16:48 GMT
#44
Will never forget when qxc’s mouse died vs Dear and he had to just swap out for a random mouse and keep playing. Great times:



Bon voyage, Dear. Glad he made a bit of a resurgence as of late!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
August 17 2020 19:22 GMT
#45
Sad to see him go. Protoss is in a terrible spot come October
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1923 Posts
August 17 2020 20:56 GMT
#46
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/526091-the-case-for-dear

Good stuff about Dear. He was a fun player and one of the first I wrote a feature about. I'll forever admire him, if only for his mercurial form.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1711 Posts
August 17 2020 22:35 GMT
#47
Dear was always overrated IMO

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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
August 17 2020 22:39 GMT
#48
All the best to Dear, whatever he decides when he comes out from his service.
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Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
August 17 2020 23:12 GMT
#49
One of the greatest Protoss of all time to touch the game
IamBiSa
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany70 Posts
August 18 2020 00:19 GMT
#50
Good bye, Dear! Even to this day I have never seen a Protoss as dominating as him for one magical month in 2013.
TL+ Member
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
August 18 2020 02:36 GMT
#51
On August 18 2020 08:12 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
One of the greatest Protoss of all time to touch the game

And also the most inconsistent and most overrated player ever
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-18 03:14:28
August 18 2020 03:08 GMT
#52
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
August 18 2020 04:11 GMT
#53
Another hit to the Protoss race. Not many top tier players left. Hopefully Astrea can step up in GSL and new Protoss players emerge. Otherwise we're going to be seeing a lot more ZvZ, TvT, ZvTs and no Protoss matchups
The world wants to be deceived
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
August 18 2020 06:46 GMT
#54
On August 18 2020 13:11 MoonyD wrote:
Another hit to the Protoss race. Not many top tier players left. Hopefully Astrea can step up in GSL and new Protoss players emerge. Otherwise we're going to be seeing a lot more ZvZ, TvT, ZvTs and no Protoss matchups

What we have after this year are sOs, patience, trap, creator, prince, parting,zoun and super. Non of them beside trap looks promising. Sad
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
Matroid_Prime
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada59 Posts
August 19 2020 03:06 GMT
#55
Saw Dear play against Soulkey in Toronto years ago. Talented player who has been very entertaining to watch. Good luck to you in the future Dear, appreciated your talent.
Lifelong fan of Starcraft
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
August 19 2020 17:04 GMT
#56
Nooo! Very sad news
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