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Trap, Dark, Maru, Solar to Super Tournament RO4

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 01:41:18
March 25 2020 23:11 GMT
#1
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2020 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 1


The pool of contenders has been narrowed down to four as the GSL looks to crown its first champion of 2020. The semifinals and grand final of the Super Tournament will be played on Saturday, Mar 28 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), with the champion winning $10,000 in prize money. The top four players have also received round-of-sixteen seeds into the upcoming GSL Code S tournament (begins in April), bypassing the offline qualifiers and the first group stage of the tournament.

VODs on YouTube

Darkhorse (Wiki)Trap clinched his semifinal spot with an upset over PvP master (Wiki)Zest, losing to a clever island-style strategy on Golden Wall but looking far more solid and precise in the remaining three games.

Despite eliminating IEM champion Rogue last week, (Wiki)sOs couldn't conjure another miracle against (Wiki)Dark. Clever abuse of the the mineral walls on Golden Wall almost saw sOs take game one, but Dark patiently defended until he was able to steal the victory in one brilliant battle. After that, sOs seemed to run out of steam, and Dark was able to easily defend against any early game cheese/harassment before comfortably snowballing to victory.

(Wiki)Maru vs (Wiki)INnoVation started with a series of hype-killing games, with Maru winning the first two maps on the back of crippling early game attacks. However, the games picked up as the series went along. Game three featured some quirky role-reversal as INnoVation picked apart Maru's immobile mech with audacious bio drops, followed by INnoVation tying up the series with a decisive Raven-Tank push in game four. The series concluded with a messy, scrappy, game-of-throws on Ever Dream, where Maru emerged the victor after INnoVation made the biggest and final error of the match while defending against a Marine-Tank drop.

Finally, (Wiki)Solar banished (Wiki)Cure back to online realm for the time being with a 3-1 victory. Cure was impressive in game one, looking INnoVation-esque as he absorbed what seemed like crippling losses as he overpowered Solar with constant waves of Marines and Tanks. However, things fell apart for Cure thereafter. Cure invited to Solar to play a split-map macro game in game two, and things seemed to be going well until a single major Zerg attack started an unending death spiral that saw Cure blow through a 10k bank before GG'ing out. Solar closed out the series with a Roach-Ravager poke in game three, followed by a brute force macro game win in game four.

Series of the day: Solar vs Cure

Game of the day: sOs vs Dark on Golden Wall

Written by Wax


Poll: Who will win the Super Tournament?

Maru (99)
 
46%

Dark (93)
 
43%

Trap (17)
 
8%

Solar (8)
 
4%

217 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the Super Tournament?

(Vote): Trap
(Vote): Dark
(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Solar



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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
March 26 2020 01:28 GMT
#2
Maybe Dark4:3Maru
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
March 26 2020 01:53 GMT
#3
No ZvZ final,please.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 26 2020 03:08 GMT
#4
That Cure vs Solar game 2 was tragic.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
224 Posts
March 26 2020 04:08 GMT
#5
Assuming Dark vs Maru finals, Dark will beat Maru even though I’m rooting for Maru. Unless Maru bops Solar in an overwhelming fashion, Dark can study Maru’s TvZ while Maru doesn’t have the same advantage.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
March 26 2020 07:54 GMT
#6
I don t get how the Number 2 Player from last years WCS ranking, Trap, is the dark horse against the Number 16 in said ranking, Zest. Yes Zest had an amazing run at Katowice, but I wouldn t call Traps win an upset at all. I would even say, that Trap is the better all round Player from the two of them.
Obviously Zest had more momentum from recent succes, but I see them as pretty even matched right now. That paired with the volatile meta in PvP at the moment, both had a fair shot for advancing, with neither outcome realy beeing an upset.
MaxPax
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 26 2020 08:45 GMT
#7
On March 26 2020 16:54 dbRic1203 wrote:
I don t get how the Number 2 Player from last years WCS ranking, Trap, is the dark horse against the Number 16 in said ranking, Zest. Yes Zest had an amazing run at Katowice, but I wouldn t call Traps win an upset at all. I would even say, that Trap is the better all round Player from the two of them.
Obviously Zest had more momentum from recent succes, but I see them as pretty even matched right now. That paired with the volatile meta in PvP at the moment, both had a fair shot for advancing, with neither outcome realy beeing an upset.


I dont think anyone would argue that Trap is the better player. This probably has to do with the fact that Zest is (rightfully) regarded as a PvP GOD + he seems to be in good form, so everyone expected better from him. Trap was really well prepared though and made Zest look like a scrub, well played by him.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 26 2020 11:47 GMT
#8
On March 26 2020 16:54 dbRic1203 wrote:
I don t get how the Number 2 Player from last years WCS ranking, Trap, is the dark horse against the Number 16 in said ranking, Zest. Yes Zest had an amazing run at Katowice, but I wouldn t call Traps win an upset at all. I would even say, that Trap is the better all round Player from the two of them.

Zest looked like the best protoss at katowice, which is pretty much the only event to go off so far. He's also generally favoured in PvP against anyone now than Classic has gone
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 26 2020 13:34 GMT
#9
If it's a Maru vs Dark finals, I fear we have another Zerg victory on our hands boys... Actually looking at the top 4 I think it's a Z winner nonetheless
Mine gas, build tanks.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 26 2020 14:24 GMT
#10
On March 26 2020 22:34 Akio wrote:
If it's a Maru vs Dark finals, I fear we have another Zerg victory on our hands boys... Actually looking at the top 4 I think it's a Z winner nonetheless

That's because no one in any tournament was going to beat Dark except other zerg players
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
March 26 2020 16:38 GMT
#11
Hoping for another Maru victory here
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 26 2020 17:42 GMT
#12
On March 27 2020 01:38 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Hoping for another Maru victory here

I would love too, but doesn't seem probable
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
rasi86
Profile Joined July 2019
44 Posts
March 26 2020 20:02 GMT
#13
those map win% per MU are ridiculous... hope Trap can somehow do magic but most likely its another ZvZ finals
Zerg is OP as hell. Blizzard, stop nerfing Toss!
Hunta15
Profile Joined April 2014
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 20:20:13
March 26 2020 20:19 GMT
#14
On March 27 2020 05:02 rasi86 wrote:
those map win% per MU are ridiculous... hope Trap can somehow do magic but most likely its another ZvZ finals


Except that's not likely at all. Maru is 33-14 vs. Solar (70.21%). I guess that mindset is expected from someone that has "Zerg OP" on their profile.
PyroNswe
Profile Joined March 2020
Sweden23 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 21:15:08
March 26 2020 21:14 GMT
#15
Cheering Hard for Maru and Trap!

I think Maru can take down Solar, but Dark(if he moves on to the finals) Will be hard.

4-3 Maru v Dark finals?
"The Terran army, Is better than your army" -RotterdaM
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
March 26 2020 21:17 GMT
#16
my problem with Maru beating Dark is the match order. Because Maru vs Solar is second semifinal, dark will have much more time to rest the wrists. 2 bo7 in a row can be quite demanding
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-26 21:19:31
March 26 2020 21:18 GMT
#17
On March 27 2020 05:19 Hunta15 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 05:02 rasi86 wrote:
those map win% per MU are ridiculous... hope Trap can somehow do magic but most likely its another ZvZ finals


Except that's not likely at all. Maru is 33-14 vs. Solar (70.21%). I guess that mindset is expected from someone that has "Zerg OP" on their profile.

WEll, it's not like Terrans or Protoss players are stomping their opposition and winning tournaments left and right The last 2 GSL titles go to Zerg, the last 2 world champion titles go to Zerg. And as it seems after the next ST finals we can say that the last 2 ST titles go to Zerg

Is there a balance issue? Doesn't seem so, it just seems Zergs are better, be it Serral, Reynor, Dark or Rogue. While the best Protoss is notoriously known for bad PvZ and there's no other competitive Terran besides Maru.

So, how much likely is it that MAru will lose to Solar? Well, I say it's 60 - 40 for Maru. And 70-30 for Dark vs whoever advances(+10 for Dark if Solar). I would love to be wrong, but Maru doesn't seem to be in his top form, Trap is bad in PvZ and Solar is nowhere near Dark's current form. (no matter the balance Dark seems on fire while being showered with gasoline)

On March 27 2020 06:17 Argonauta wrote:
my problem with Maru beating Dark is the match order. Because Maru vs Solar is second semifinal, dark will have much more time to rest the wrists. 2 bo7 in a row can be quite demanding

Also it's hard to prepare 10 different TvZ games(c'mon, it's Maru, he will use proxies), at the same time Dark will be watching Solar v Maru.
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bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary404 Posts
March 26 2020 21:36 GMT
#18
On March 26 2020 20:47 Fango wrote:.. now than Classic has gone

wow
isn't it sad to read something like that
even though i usually root for Z
Hunta15
Profile Joined April 2014
United States81 Posts
March 27 2020 00:09 GMT
#19
On March 27 2020 06:18 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 05:19 Hunta15 wrote:
On March 27 2020 05:02 rasi86 wrote:
those map win% per MU are ridiculous... hope Trap can somehow do magic but most likely its another ZvZ finals


Except that's not likely at all. Maru is 33-14 vs. Solar (70.21%). I guess that mindset is expected from someone that has "Zerg OP" on their profile.

WEll, it's not like Terrans or Protoss players are stomping their opposition and winning tournaments left and right The last 2 GSL titles go to Zerg, the last 2 world champion titles go to Zerg. And as it seems after the next ST finals we can say that the last 2 ST titles go to Zerg

Is there a balance issue? Doesn't seem so, it just seems Zergs are better, be it Serral, Reynor, Dark or Rogue. While the best Protoss is notoriously known for bad PvZ and there's no other competitive Terran besides Maru.

So, how much likely is it that MAru will lose to Solar? Well, I say it's 60 - 40 for Maru. And 70-30 for Dark vs whoever advances(+10 for Dark if Solar). I would love to be wrong, but Maru doesn't seem to be in his top form, Trap is bad in PvZ and Solar is nowhere near Dark's current form. (no matter the balance Dark seems on fire while being showered with gasoline)

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 06:17 Argonauta wrote:
my problem with Maru beating Dark is the match order. Because Maru vs Solar is second semifinal, dark will have much more time to rest the wrists. 2 bo7 in a row can be quite demanding

Also it's hard to prepare 10 different TvZ games(c'mon, it's Maru, he will use proxies), at the same time Dark will be watching Solar v Maru.


Yeah lets cite tournaments that are from before a major balance patch. Remember when Life beat PartinG in the GSL finals? Zerg OP.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States712 Posts
March 27 2020 00:15 GMT
#20
Actually, of all the seasons where Solar has a chance against Maru, I think this might be the one. Rogue has been on vacation so who is Maru practicing against, really?

Also, it's really hard to count out Trap. He's been overshadowed... but he's definitely still a champion. I have no idea who he's practicing with though.

This Ro4 can go any direction.

Maybe... Trap 3-2 Dark (Because Trap is Hot right now)
And Maru 3-1 Solar (Because he's Maru)

Then I'll finally be able to see Trap put himself over as more than a Dark Horse when goes against Maru.

I'm also biased towards more variety in the top players list though
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