Qualifiers for 2020 GSL Season 1 will be held for two days on April 1st(Wed) & April 2nd(Thu).
Details are as below.
■ Participation requirements - Must be at least 12 years old - Need to have a SC2 Battle.net account (cannot use your family's or friends' accounts) - Masters/Grandmaster league players (Any Region)
■ Qualifiers information - GSL Qualifiers application period: March 23rd(Mon) – March 29th(Sun) 23:59 KST - You only need to apply once to participate in both days of the qualifiers - GSL Qualifiers: April 1st(Wed) & April 2nd(Thu) - GSL Qualifiers location: TBD - Match schedule for each individual will be sent out via MMS & e-mail to each participant on March 30th(Mon).
■ GSL Qualifiers match format - Best of 3 / Double Elimination format - Maps: Game1 Nightshade // Game2 Simulacrum // Game3 Eternal Empire - Participants who do not qualify on Day 1(1st), can participate again on Day 2(2nd) - If you do not show up to the 1st day of the Qualifiers without notice, you will be automatically disqualified from the 2nd day - Participants who acquire prior approval may only participate in the 2nd day of the Qualifiers
Please accurately fill out the form below and send your application to gsl@afreecatv.com - Full Name: - Birth date: - Country: - Phone Number or Skype ID: - Battle.net SC2 Account: - Ladder Score: - StarCraft 2 Character Name: - Team: - Race: - Email address:
For any questions please feel free to contact us at gsl@afreecatv.com
On March 19 2020 21:37 Ziggy wrote: no format changes then?
Well format changes are already confirmed to be coming by Solar. It's just a question of what changes will happen and at what stage of the tournament.
seeing as they still havent released anything despite the quali announcement i thought there was a chance any planned changes had been scrapped
Yeah, it's odd. No word on how many players qualify either. Maybe they're just postponing the format changes until season 2 due to the delay.
They never say how many people qualify in these announcements. Maybe potential format changes, if they are applied this season, don't have an effect until the qualifiers are done. Also let me remind you they announced the postponement of ST on the day it was meant to start and the start of it 3 days before it actually started. They're not exactly timely with everything
Of course there's also the chance they scrapped the changes at this time, maybe even due to player concerns. I don't really think schedule delay would play into this because they can always catch up to schedule by condensing group stages to be less spread out.
On March 19 2020 22:33 sneakyfox wrote: GSL hype!!
On March 19 2020 22:28 Ziggy wrote:
On March 19 2020 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On March 19 2020 21:37 Ziggy wrote: no format changes then?
Well format changes are already confirmed to be coming by Solar. It's just a question of what changes will happen and at what stage of the tournament.
seeing as they still havent released anything despite the quali announcement i thought there was a chance any planned changes had been scrapped
Yeah, it's odd. No word on how many players qualify either. Maybe they're just postponing the format changes until season 2 due to the delay.
They never say how many people qualify in these announcements. Maybe potential format changes, if they are applied this season, don't have an effect until the qualifiers are done. Also let me remind you they announced the postponement of ST on the day it was meant to start and the start of it 3 days before it actually started. They're not exactly timely with everything
Of course there's also the chance they scrapped the changes at this time, maybe even due to player concerns. I don't really think schedule delay would play into this because they can always catch up to schedule by condensing group stages to be less spread out.
The official EPT rule book puts 52 players per season into GSL (point distr. goes down until rank 41-52)
Are these group stages or directly KO games? Players who don't qualify get point regardless (52 players)? The top 4 of ST go in to the Ro16?
It's basically the ASL format, main difference being of course that GSL won't have any best of 1 matches.Top 4 of the first Super Tournament will make up the 4 seeded players of the Ro16 for season 1.
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
41. - 52. would be players who won 2 matches. And I think that's fine, those will generally be players who are unlikely to win ESL Cups to begin with.
On March 20 2020 19:41 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the real question is what does this mean for Ro16 group selection?
ASL style. The top 4 of the previous season (and for season 1 the top 4 of ST) will build groups with the usual group selection antics. So realistically it means nothing.
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
41. - 52. would be players who won 2 matches. And I think that's fine, those will generally be players who are unlikely to win ESL Cups to begin with.
On March 20 2020 19:41 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the real question is what does this mean for Ro16 group selection?
ASL style. The top 4 of the previous season (and for season 1 the top 4 of ST) will build groups with the usual group selection antics. So realistically it means nothing.
I think you missunderstand me. 41. - 52. basically get free points! Those players would never ever win an ESL Cup. This highly diminishes what HeroMarine does every week and who he has to fight through for example!
Anyway, we'll see how it plays out. Maybe Korea and some foreigners show up in full force and make it actually difficult to get to places above 52nd
The cups are an extra. Sure, Heromarine puts in insane work every week to make half as many points. But GSL is the main tournament of the Korean region. It's meant to far outweigh the cups. You also get more points from being top 56 at a WCS stop than from winning an ESL Cup. A laughable prospect if you compare the skill required to achieve each.
I think you missunderstand me. 41. - 52. basically get free points! Those players would never ever win an ESL Cup. This highly diminishes what HeroMarine does every week and who he has to fight through for example!
Honestly I think that that's a really good thing. I get that it might feel unfair, but as others have pointed out, the GSL is supposed to be the main thing and more people being able to earn money and points at GSL is gonna be huge for the koreans just outside the Ro32 barrier and because of that really good for the Korean scene overall since new blood can come in much easier.
Also I'm pretty sure we should be differentiating between the global points the EPT-cups give and the EPT Korea points that GSL gives. Highly doubt Heromarine is gonna care at all about someone getting points for a circuit he doesn't even play in.
Edit: Also should be noted that all of what's being done in this thread so far is speculation based on the rulebook, gonna have to wait for a proper confirmation of what's actually up with the 29-52 point distribution.
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
41. - 52. would be players who won 2 matches. And I think that's fine, those will generally be players who are unlikely to win ESL Cups to begin with.
On March 20 2020 19:41 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the real question is what does this mean for Ro16 group selection?
ASL style. The top 4 of the previous season (and for season 1 the top 4 of ST) will build groups with the usual group selection antics. So realistically it means nothing.
I think you missunderstand me. 41. - 52. basically get free points! Those players would never ever win an ESL Cup. This highly diminishes what HeroMarine does every week and who he has to fight through for example!
Anyway, we'll see how it plays out. Maybe Korea and some foreigners show up in full force and make it actually difficult to get to places above 52nd
Olimoleagues, kungfu cups, warditv tournaments and so on give 0 Points. This highly diminishes what the winners of those cups have to go through…
Bullshit argument that has nothing to do with anything, that some tournaments give some Points and some tournament gives m a lot Points diminishes no ones accomolishment.
The only way the players placing 41-52 in all tournaments could get more Points than the Winners of ESL tournaments is if said Winners bomb out of every single big event of the year. If that happens would that ESL Winner really be more deserving? Its not so cut and dry
GSL is 3 times a year, Big Gabe Cup is every week. It s designed that way, that if you are consistent, then you get rewarded in the weekly cups And Heromarine has allways been super consistent. He loses against those he is supposed to lose, but he also wins against everyone, he is supposed to win. I think his biggest upset last year was his 3-2 Group Stage win vs Classic and the biggest upset he got was his defeat against MLord. Appart from that he pretty much allways beat the weaker players and got beaten by worse ones. That s what makes him so dominant in the ESL Cups. He just doesn t slip. And in his current form, the only player, he s realy in a disadvantage in foreignland is Serral. So as long as he isn t playing, Big Gabe will keep getting into the finals more often than not.
To be clear, I don t think, he is actually better than Reynor, Elazer, Showtime, Neeb or Clem. All of those are pretty much equal. But HM is the least likely one to get upset by the next tier players in line, like Harstem, Lambo, Mana, uThermal, Scarlett, Bly and so on.. Edit: sorry, wasn t intendet to become such a long rant. This has little to do with GSL.. So, ehm, hurray, GSL is coming I hope I can actually catch something live and that they are also broadcasting the qualifiers, as they give points as well, they could also try to give some spotlight to the new guys like percival, chance and so on
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
41. - 52. would be players who won 2 matches. And I think that's fine, those will generally be players who are unlikely to win ESL Cups to begin with.
On March 20 2020 19:41 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the real question is what does this mean for Ro16 group selection?
ASL style. The top 4 of the previous season (and for season 1 the top 4 of ST) will build groups with the usual group selection antics. So realistically it means nothing.
Phew, good to hear. The true highlight of any Code S season.
I think you missunderstand me. 41. - 52. basically get free points! Those players would never ever win an ESL Cup. This highly diminishes what HeroMarine does every week and who he has to fight through for example!
Honestly I think that that's a really good thing. I get that it might feel unfair, but as others have pointed out, the GSL is supposed to be the main thing and more people being able to earn money and points at GSL is gonna be huge for the koreans just outside the Ro32 barrier and because of that really good for the Korean scene overall since new blood can come in much easier.
Also I'm pretty sure we should be differentiating between the global points the EPT-cups give and the EPT Korea points that GSL gives. Highly doubt Heromarine is gonna care at all about someone getting points for a circuit he doesn't even play in.
Edit: Also should be noted that all of what's being done in this thread so far is speculation based on the rulebook, gonna have to wait for a proper confirmation of what's actually up with the 29-52 point distribution.
Fair point!
On March 20 2020 20:11 Elentos wrote: The cups are an extra. Sure, Heromarine puts in insane work every week to make half as many points. But GSL is the main tournament of the Korean region. It's meant to far outweigh the cups. You also get more points from being top 56 at a WCS stop than from winning an ESL Cup. A laughable prospect if you compare the skill required to achieve each.
On March 20 2020 18:49 sneakyfox wrote: So Code S 2020 will have the same amount of prize money as Code S 2019. Good news.
Think the new ASL style format is good. But then what was the deal with top 52?
Well mathematically, if every Code S has 28 players, that would mean 24 players who got eliminated in the qualifiers still get something.
In this rulebook table the places 29. - 40. get 35 points and 41. - 52. get 20 points. That would basically be a double ESL Cup win for losing all games... doesn't seem fair TBH
41. - 52. would be players who won 2 matches. And I think that's fine, those will generally be players who are unlikely to win ESL Cups to begin with.
On March 20 2020 19:41 sneakyfox wrote: I guess the real question is what does this mean for Ro16 group selection?
ASL style. The top 4 of the previous season (and for season 1 the top 4 of ST) will build groups with the usual group selection antics. So realistically it means nothing.
I think you missunderstand me. 41. - 52. basically get free points! Those players would never ever win an ESL Cup. This highly diminishes what HeroMarine does every week and who he has to fight through for example!
Anyway, we'll see how it plays out. Maybe Korea and some foreigners show up in full force and make it actually difficult to get to places above 52nd
Olimoleagues, kungfu cups, warditv tournaments and so on give 0 Points. This highly diminishes what the winners of those cups have to go through…
Bullshit argument that has nothing to do with anything, that some tournaments give some Points and some tournament gives m a lot Points diminishes no ones accomolishment.
The only way the players placing 41-52 in all tournaments could get more Points than the Winners of ESL tournaments is if said Winners bomb out of every single big event of the year. If that happens would that ESL Winner really be more deserving? Its not so cut and dry
I think we should just wait for a new, revised version of the rulebook at this stage, and consider the possibility that the previous version was working off a draft version of Code S that got modified
On March 21 2020 00:56 Waxangel wrote: I think we should just wait for a new, revised version of the rulebook at this stage, and consider the possibility that the previous version was working off a draft version of Code S that got modified
On March 20 2020 12:47 Waxangel wrote: Location TBD!
Maybe online.....?
If it weren't for possible travel issues, this could possibly spur people to try to qualify from outside of Korea. EU to Korea would be difficult though less so for players playing a race without a significant micro requirement. NA to Korea is probably more doable for all races, especially for people closer to the west coast.
On March 31 2020 18:33 DrunkenJedi wrote: Hola, will there be any english streams for tomorrows qualifier?
There's no sanctioned qualifier stream planned according to Creighton Olsen. It's possible players will show their replays on streams after the fact, that's happened before (at least for the non-Koreans who tried).
groups will probably get posted here: http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl/post/54775294 and i think it starts at 10:30. edit: 17:30 kst is 10:30 where i live, so whatever time that is for you
Thanks Do we know how the seeding works? The number of players in the groups seems quite different in the groups and having Rogue playing in the first round while Control gets a bye seems wired..
On April 01 2020 17:49 dbRic1203 wrote: Thanks Do we know how the seeding works? The number of players in the groups seems quite different in the groups and having Rogue playing in the first round while Control? gets a bye seems wired..
Looks random. Also seems like we have Billowy/DoKyung and Curious in the brackets as barcodes.
On April 01 2020 18:20 Elentos wrote: Dynamite continues his good form, 2-0 against Scarlett is not bad at all.
Dynamite has been crushing lately, but I d be pretty suprised, if he get s trough today. With Dear and Zest this looks like a suuper tough group for him
On April 01 2020 18:20 Elentos wrote: Dynamite continues his good form, 2-0 against Scarlett is not bad at all.
Dynamite has been crushing lately, but I d be pretty suprised, if he get s trough today. With Dear and Zest this looks like a suuper tough group for him
Yeah I don't think he's making it today. But if he makes it tomorrow that'd be cool. We haven't had a Korean Code S debut in a while. With Zoun as well we could have two this season.
On April 01 2020 19:10 darklycid wrote: Armani 2-1 Cure actually big result.
Nice, Armain is actually more relevant after his military service than before E: Cure is most likely going to bump into him in the losers final again EE: now it says Cure won the Armani series..
On April 01 2020 19:18 darklycid wrote: Zest first to qualify in what was probably one of the easiest qualifying matches for him e: Parting 2:1 rogue to qualify
Yeah I mean Zest is in good form anyway but getting Dear in the same bracket was a gift.
On April 01 2020 19:18 darklycid wrote: Zest first to qualify in what was probably one of the easiest qualifying matches for him e: Parting 2:1 rogue to qualify
Yeah I mean Zest is in good form anyway but getting Dear in the same bracket was a gift.
Ye rly feels like Dear has a mental block or smth vs Zest he almost always loses even when he is in good form, hope he can overcome that one day.
TY 2-0 Cure to qualify and Armani winning 2-0 in lower bracket. Those results are way too quick, I sense a case of the bracket getting updated too slow in the previous round
On April 01 2020 19:38 Elentos wrote: Okay well soO also went 0-2 against Special.
Well that s actually less suprising than his loss against Bomber
I dunno Special never really impresses me with his TvZ all that much. But it adds to the idea that - big shock - soO ain't that good in ZvT.
Well he s defnatly more solid than Bomber (at least when we saw him the last time) I mean come on, his aligulac rating is below 2k
When Bomber retired 2k was still high. Also doesn't help that Bomber doesn't play much stuff. Special has about as many tournament games against Zerg alone this year as Bomber does against every race combined. But yeah I'm not saying Bomber is better.
On April 01 2020 19:38 Elentos wrote: Okay well soO also went 0-2 against Special.
Well that s actually less suprising than his loss against Bomber
I dunno Special never really impresses me with his TvZ all that much. But it adds to the idea that - big shock - soO ain't that good in ZvT.
Well he s defnatly more solid than Bomber (at least when we saw him the last time) I mean come on, his aligulac rating is below 2k
When Bomber retired 2k was still high. Also doesn't help that Bomber doesn't play much stuff. Special has about as many tournament games against Zerg alone this year as Bomber does against every race combined.
Bergman is the last foreign hope other than Juan.
Well thats true, but he s back for allmost a year by now and appart from vZ his ratings actually dropped. I know alligulac isn t everything. But also when you look at his match history, while it s not as abd as I imagined, it s defnatly nothing to write home about either. E: I don t realy belive in SortOf getting any further, Dream has been steadily improving since his comeback (other than other Terrans ) and will hopefully advance
On April 01 2020 23:00 lechatnoir wrote: Wow only Rouge getting through as a zerg!
To be fair, Solar and Dark were allready qualified... But yeah still pretty Zerg lacking for the amount of balance whine there has been lately
To be even more fair korea is known to not have too many Zergs at the top, the only Zerg that was expected to go through in these brackets that didn't was soO i'd say.
On April 01 2020 23:00 lechatnoir wrote: Wow only Rouge getting through as a zerg!
To be fair, Solar and Dark were allready qualified... But yeah still pretty Zerg lacking for the amount of balance whine there has been lately
To be even more fair korea is known to not have too many Zergs at the top, the only Zerg that was expected to go through in these brackets that didn't was soO i'd say.
On April 01 2020 23:00 lechatnoir wrote: Wow only Rouge getting through as a zerg!
To be fair, Solar and Dark were allready qualified... But yeah still pretty Zerg lacking for the amount of balance whine there has been lately
To be even more fair korea is known to not have too many Zergs at the top, the only Zerg that was expected to go through in these brackets that didn't was soO i'd say.
Well Armani as well I gues
In a bracket with TY and Cure? I disagree, i would have given you maybe ragnarok, but his tvz didnt impress too much recently, so i did not really expect it after losing to bunny once.
On April 01 2020 23:00 lechatnoir wrote: Wow only Rouge getting through as a zerg!
To be fair, Solar and Dark were allready qualified... But yeah still pretty Zerg lacking for the amount of balance whine there has been lately
To be even more fair korea is known to not have too many Zergs at the top, the only Zerg that was expected to go through in these brackets that didn't was soO i'd say.
Well Armani as well I gues
In a bracket with TY and Cure? I disagree, i would have given you maybe ragnarok, but his tvz didnt impress too much recently, so i did not really expect it after losing to bunny once.
I was just thinking about top Players and not about Who was favoured in his groups. In that regard he was obviously outmatched against those two
On April 02 2020 12:43 geokilla wrote: Disappointed there aren't many new names. With all the players, looks like we could have gotten a proper Code A?
Percival, Dynamite, Chance did all ok ish. I would be suprised and sad if non of them would qualify today.
Are the Groups for today going to be posted here? http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl/post/54816773 Can t find any links yet.. But should be up any minute by now I gues E: yes they are
My expectations for today: A: Dream and soO B: TaeJa and Astrea (but if TaeJa and Astrea meet in the decider due to Impact advancing 1st, I think Astrea wins) C: Patience and Percival D: Armani and Creator (hoping for DynaMite though) E: RagnaroK and SortOf F: Scarlett and Super
On April 02 2020 17:31 TheOneAboveU wrote: My expectations for today: A: Dream and soO B: TaeJa and Astrea (but if TaeJa and Astrea meet in the decider due to Impact advancing 1st, I think Astrea wins) C: Patience and Percival D: Armani and Creator (hoping for DynaMite though) E: RagnaroK and SortOf F: Scarlett and Super
Looks reasonable to me I could see Bomber or Zoun taking SortOf s place though
On April 02 2020 18:47 egrimm wrote: Is there any way to watch any of these games ? Or from yesterday ?
Noregret was streaming on Twitch, untill Afreeca TV messaged him to stop it. Special is handing out replays from yesterday over discord (probably for money) Apart from that probably not.
On April 02 2020 18:47 egrimm wrote: Is there any way to watch any of these games ? Or from yesterday ?
Noregret was streaming on Twitch, untill Afreeca TV messaged him to stop it. Special is handing out replays from yesterday over discord (probably for money) Apart from that probably not.
Dammit I hope next time we gonna get at least some coverage
For someone who misunderstood things.. Squirtle didn't participate in the qualifiers, it's another person with the same name. His name is Terra, part of the Marketing Team for Team GP, also he's Master Terran player.
On that news, while Soon is out, appearently he got his very first Map win in a professional Match Edit: I can t read, he got one map from squirtle yesterday as well... Edit2: appearently not Squirtle but Terra
On April 02 2020 19:12 SupremeMaddox wrote: For someone who misunderstood things.. Squirtle didn't participate in the qualifiers, it's another person with the same name. His name is Terra, part of the Marketing Team for Team GP, also he's Master Terran player.
And here I was living through Squirtle throwbacks for a minute or two. t.t
Taeja and Bomber are through?! And Tails is in this qualifier! Damn, this is some old school SC2 right here. DRG as well (but I'm hoping for Scarlett ofc :D).
On April 02 2020 19:58 Mettis wrote: Whats going on with Group F. Spear vs Tails has been blank for ages now.
Just got updated.
Also I can already see it, we went into this qualifier with more hype for up and coming Korean talent than in the last years combined and the only new players from 2019 S3 compared to 2020 S1 will be TRUE and Bunny.
On April 02 2020 19:58 Mettis wrote: Whats going on with Group F. Spear vs Tails has been blank for ages now.
Just got updated.
Also I can already see it, we went into this qualifier with more hype for up and coming Korean talent than in the last years combined and the only new players from 2019 S3 compared to 2020 S1 will be TRUE and Bunny.
Nice, not gonna lie I like seeing new players but I want DRG to qualify. :x
On April 02 2020 20:23 Elentos wrote: DRG vs Prince, Armani vs Natural (Tempo) - we still have a chance to get someone new in Code S. Percival also maybe still has a shot.
On April 02 2020 20:23 Elentos wrote: DRG vs Prince, Armani vs Natural (Tempo) - we still have a chance to get someone new in Code S. Percival also maybe still has a shot.
E: RIP Percival, RIP Prince.
Oh, ffs...
I'm telling you, all that hype, and in the end with 4 spots cut from Code S there will only be 2 players in that weren't last season - TRUE and Bunny.
On April 02 2020 21:09 Xain0n wrote: TOP in Code S??? That's insane!
He's gonna get absolutely rekt in the group stage. But still, that's insane.
Yeah, lets hope there s no kind of Polt Hype around him and people try to make balance arguments based on his performance.. Otherwise I m realy happy for him. Returning blood almost as good as new one :D
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Yeah but maybe with ESL being involved our cries will be heard. If you know people in the scene or ESL put pressure to make this happen. It is a now-brainer to stream these matches
On April 02 2020 21:13 Elentos wrote: I'm pretty sure nobody will ever have a bigger gap between Code S appearances than TOP has now.
I just checked, its not like he wasn t competing, he tried for all 3 gsl + 2 supertournaments last year and for some 2018, but was just not good enough..
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Well Creighton Olsen was allowed to stream the qualifying matches last season. He tried again but they couldn't make it work this time. I'm sure he will keep trying every season.
Also TOP wasn't in Code S (let alone Code A) from October 2011 to now, April 2020. It's impressive he broke that streak, but he's by far the worst player who made Code S this season.
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Well Creighton Olsen was allowed to stream the qualifying matches last season. He tried again but they couldn't make it work this time. I'm sure he will keep trying every season.
Also TOP wasn't in Code S (let alone Code A) from October 2011 to now, April 2020. It's impressive he broke that streak, but he's by far the worst player who made Code S this season.
So from last Code S, Classic, herO, GuMiho, Fantasy, aLive and KeeN retired. 4 spots in GSL got removed. Bunny and TRUE filled the remaining 2 spots. And then Patience lost his spot to TOP in a giant upset.
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Well Creighton Olsen was allowed to stream the qualifying matches last season. He tried again but they couldn't make it work this time. I'm sure he will keep trying every season.
Also TOP wasn't in Code S (let alone Code A) from October 2011 to now, April 2020. It's impressive he broke that streak, but he's by far the worst player who made Code S this season.
Hahah he indeed is, but he might win a map or even a match, taking down Patience is notable! Are you ready for the nunchaku?
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Well Creighton Olsen was allowed to stream the qualifying matches last season. He tried again but they couldn't make it work this time. I'm sure he will keep trying every season.
Also TOP wasn't in Code S (let alone Code A) from October 2011 to now, April 2020. It's impressive he broke that streak, but he's by far the worst player who made Code S this season.
Hahah he indeed is, but he might win a map or even a match, taking down Patience is relevant! Are you ready for the nunchaku?
Maybe with good preparation he can take games. But he's really not supposed to win Bo3's against any of the other players who qualified tbh.
TOP qualifying is insane really. I'm sure he's better now but few years back I would hit him on the ladder and even he'd beat me, I never got the impression that he was particularly back in form.
Patience is one of those players that could lose to anyone but still that's an impressive qualifying victory for someone who everyone assumed would never make it back into Code S ever.
On April 02 2020 21:13 oneill12 wrote: If this is the hype without stream I can only hope they stream it next time...
They haven t streamed this in ages
Well Creighton Olsen was allowed to stream the qualifying matches last season. He tried again but they couldn't make it work this time. I'm sure he will keep trying every season.
Also TOP wasn't in Code S (let alone Code A) from October 2011 to now, April 2020. It's impressive he broke that streak, but he's by far the worst player who made Code S this season.
We made an allowance through myself (and conscious efforts by all parties) as Creighton was about to jumpstart his casting career. I hope he's doing okay by now as we both haven't gotten much in contact after he left Korea.
It's really crazy how much the old guard still benefits from the teamhouse infrastructure back then and manages to let none of the "newcomers" come through. But at the same time I had the impression that we saw more "new" names. If they are willing to also compete in the next qualifiers this year, we perhaps finally could see some new faces in GSL.
And I'm reeeeeally happy for TOP. He is the personified swag.
Well, I was hoping Dynamite, Zoun and maybe Prince, Chance or Percival could qualify and start a good gsl underdog story, but I guess TOP is good for that aswell. Natural would be fun to see on GSL too and it would've made Artosis happy hehehe
Anyways, pretty cool that Dream and Armani were able to qualify, a shame that Super didn't and Bunny breaking his non-qualifying streak is pretty nice too.
But, all things apart, what do you guys think about having less spots on GSL? If they had the same as in 2019, we would have new players and an healthier scene maybe?
It's a good thing that these new (and returning) players have a lot more online stuff to compete in than previously. Would have been even greater with some minor Code A tournament to be played, as it seemed Afreeca would do when ESL released the EPT points distribution.
Tough luck for the up-and-comers. There was a good chance that one of them was going to make it through, but instead we got another return of the old guard.
Good to see each race almost had 1/3 of the spots this qualifier (Serral and Reynor are missing in these qualifiers although I consider Serral and Reynor to be within the top 5 Zergs in the world).
The qualifier for IEM was aweful for Terran with only 5 Terran qualifying out of 24 spots for the main event. And then the GSL Super Tournament qualifier was also aweful for Terran with 4 Terran making it to the main event out of 16 spots. But it's good to see some balance in the qualifiers for this GSL, as we came very close to 1/3 for each race.
On April 03 2020 01:21 xelnaga_empire wrote: Good to see each race almost had 1/3 of the spots this qualifier (Serral and Reynor are missing in these qualifiers although I consider Serral and Reynor to be within the top 5 Zergs in the world).
The qualifier for IEM was aweful for Terran with only 5 Terran qualifying out of 24 spots for the main event. And then the GSL Super Tournament qualifier was also aweful for Terran with 4 Terran making it to the main event out of 16 spots. But it's good to see some balance in the qualifiers for this GSL, as we came very close to 1/3 for each race.
IDK if I'd say ST was awefull for Terran, they were one off to have a balance number of player in the round of 16 then they had a perfect balance in the round of 8 (3 out of 8 so a bit above 33%) had 25% in the semi, but that include 1 tvt quarter (there was also a pvp quarter tho) and they had a finalist/winner.
On April 03 2020 01:21 xelnaga_empire wrote: Good to see each race almost had 1/3 of the spots this qualifier (Serral and Reynor are missing in these qualifiers although I consider Serral and Reynor to be within the top 5 Zergs in the world).
The qualifier for IEM was aweful for Terran with only 5 Terran qualifying out of 24 spots for the main event. And then the GSL Super Tournament qualifier was also aweful for Terran with 4 Terran making it to the main event out of 16 spots. But it's good to see some balance in the qualifiers for this GSL, as we came very close to 1/3 for each race.
IDK if I'd say ST was awefull for Terran, they were one off to have a balance number of player in the round of 16 then they had a perfect balance in the round of 8 (3 out of 8 so a bit above 33%) had 25% in the semi, but that include 1 tvt quarter (there was also a pvp quarter tho) and they had a finalist/winner.
It's pretty much perfect balance to me.
You are reacting to qualifiers post, you did notice that?
On April 02 2020 21:54 blooblooblahblah wrote: TOP qualifying is insane really. I'm sure he's better now but few years back I would hit him on the ladder and even he'd beat me, I never got the impression that he was particularly back in form.
Patience is one of those players that could lose to anyone but still that's an impressive qualifying victory for someone who everyone assumed would never make it back into Code S ever.
who needs young bloods when we have moar old players coming back like this
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