Hello, TL, I just wanted to share some good games I found recently. Crank does a lot of interesting things, and this time, he did an offrace match Maru vs Dark. A lot of you guys probably didn't know this bc the title and commentary are in Korean.
I gotta say, the whole thing was hilarious, and it's a shame that there aren't english subltitles so more of us can understand.
you can find the match at Crank's youtube channel (and probably twitch but haven't checked):
Feel free to take this post down if this isn't a thing.
A bit of a spoiler, but Dark loses to maru's zerg, Dark gets triggered, asks for rematch(s) and keeps on getting stomped. In the interview, Dark complains that maru's offrace 400 apm is just not fair.
Also, Crank said when he was still active, he met maru protoss, and he was better than Alicia. Crank still won, but then maru asked something like: hey mister sorry for bothering you, but what should I do in this and this scenario? and Crank thought like: what's up with this guy? why would you care about PvP meta, you're terran!
Dark playing Terran? I've sporadically watched Dark stream. He sometimes offraces. His Terran isn't very good at all. It's so far from his Protoss and Zerg that you wouldn't think him a pro player if you only watched his Terran. Sure, I haven't watched it in the last few months, but I have a hard time believing Dark improved that much during that time.
On December 15 2019 20:22 Drfilip wrote: I like this! + Show Spoiler +
Dark playing Terran? I've sporadically watched Dark stream. He sometimes offraces. His Terran isn't very good at all. It's so far from his Protoss and Zerg that you wouldn't think him a pro player if you only watched his Terran. Sure, I haven't watched it in the last few months, but I have a hard time believing Dark improved that much during that time.
He also played Protoss and didnt stand a chance against Maru. :D
On December 15 2019 20:22 Drfilip wrote: I like this! + Show Spoiler +
Dark playing Terran? I've sporadically watched Dark stream. He sometimes offraces. His Terran isn't very good at all. It's so far from his Protoss and Zerg that you wouldn't think him a pro player if you only watched his Terran. Sure, I haven't watched it in the last few months, but I have a hard time believing Dark improved that much during that time.
He also played Protoss and didnt stand a chance against Maru. :D
Maru had good offraces but he only looks like a god as Terran, thankfully he plays it so we can watch his amazing gameplay. I watched some of their ZvT this series and Dark struggles with pickup micro
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Specials offrace is pretty bad, as far as I know. Reynors Terran, Lambos Protoss and Showtimes Zerg are pretty good as well. So I gues it is not realy a thing, that Players from one specific race are generally better than other with their of race
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Specials offrace is pretty bad, as far as I know. Reynors Terran, Lambos Protoss and Showtimes Zerg are pretty good as well. So I gues it is not realy a thing, that Players from one specific race are generally better than other with their of race
I can guarantee you most Korean Terrans are worse offrace players than Dark because they don't play nearly as much as him. Maru is a pretty significant outlier because he's gone to 6400 MMR and higher on his offraces (Protoss being his better one).
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Sure, since this is how it is, you have something called a proof I know, it's evil to ask for one on the interwebz.
BTW MC had a pretty stellar Terran, so good, people actually used his Terran skill to practice on a high level. Many mentioned his Terran as just slightly weaker than his P.
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Sure, since this is how it is, you have something called a proof I know, it's evil to ask for one on the interwebz.
BTW MC had a pretty stellar Terran, so good, people actually used his Terran skill to practice on a high level. Many mentioned his Terran as just slightly weaker than his P.
75% of terran posts on the internet are vague insinuations of the Great Truth all terrans know about sc2 races
On December 16 2019 01:53 swarminfestor wrote: Can we randomize the race applicable to all the players compete at any tournament?
this would lower the overall skill level of all players as well as encourage people to practice only single timing-based builds and cheeses instead of macro play
On December 16 2019 01:53 swarminfestor wrote: Can we randomize the race applicable to all the players compete at any tournament?
Long time ago Millenium's caster Llewellys organised a very small EU tournament where the looser of the previous map choose which race the other player had to play for the next map (while he stick to the race he was himself playing the previous map). Most of the series finished with 3-2 if I remember well. It was lots of fun but not played at a very high level of play.
I can't remember when it was, but I believe Feast was playing for Millenium at that time.
On December 16 2019 01:53 swarminfestor wrote: Can we randomize the race applicable to all the players compete at any tournament?
Long time ago Millenium's caster Llewellys organised a very small EU tournament where the looser of the previous map choose which race the other player had to play for the next map (while he stick to the race he was himself playing the previous map). Most of the series finished with 3-2 if I remember well. It was lots of fun but not played at a very high level of play.
I can't remember when it was, but I believe Feast was playing for Millenium at that time.
I was a great fan of lwl and I don't remember it at all Oo The game between Souls/Reynor and Serral/Special were nices.
On December 16 2019 01:53 swarminfestor wrote: Can we randomize the race applicable to all the players compete at any tournament?
this would lower the overall skill level of all players as well as encourage people to practice only single timing-based builds and cheeses instead of macro play
2 problems with that statement -
1. What historical evidence points to strategies getting stifled due to lack of motivation to learn the late game? 2. What is wrong with more timings and cheese? 90% of games need not be a macro game...
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Sure, since this is how it is, you have something called a proof I know, it's evil to ask for one on the interwebz.
BTW MC had a pretty stellar Terran, so good, people actually used his Terran skill to practice on a high level. Many mentioned his Terran as just slightly weaker than his P.
Cool.. didnt know about MC's off race as terran. Could you share your source or a video showing his Terran play? Would love to see
On December 16 2019 01:53 swarminfestor wrote: Can we randomize the race applicable to all the players compete at any tournament?
This would be a great idea! Spice up the rather stale nature of current tournaments.
Forcing random race selection may skew the results to be more random than a skill based tournament should allow for; so perhaps like how pros pick/veto maps, they must also be forced to play with 1 other race of their choice on 1 map in a Bo3 and play with all 3 races (1 map minimum per race) in a Bo5 or Bo7.
I reckon you would see a lot of very interesting snipe builds and funky off the wall play.
On December 15 2019 22:15 Obamarauder wrote: most terrans have fantastic offrace. its just how it is
Sure, since this is how it is, you have something called a proof I know, it's evil to ask for one on the interwebz.
BTW MC had a pretty stellar Terran, so good, people actually used his Terran skill to practice on a high level. Many mentioned his Terran as just slightly weaker than his P.
Cool.. didnt know about MC's off race as terran. Could you share your source or a video showing his Terran play? Would love to see
Sorry, can't help, it was mentioned by... huh, YoDa? I guess during the WCS interview, that he practiced with MC and his Terran was great which somebody replied to that yeah, he has high master account and linked the account. Sorry, no video of him playing T AFAIK
I can try to look for the interview, but maybe somebody has better memory and can fill in the details, then it would be easier
EPT
I know, it's evil to ask for one on the interwebz.
