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PlanetNine_Sc2
Profile Joined March 2019
9 Posts
December 05 2019 14:19 GMT
#1
Hi all

I've a noobish question regarding Bonus pool. I've understood it's increasing when you're not playing. But once you do, in ranked, and suffer a loss, i though ladder points you lost were withdrawn from the bonus pool and not from the actual ladder points.

Last time i checked, 10mns ago, after i did loose a game, points were actually withdrawn from my ladder points, my bonus pool remaining untouched.

Am i missing Something?

thx for your help !
ThxSub~
Profile Joined September 2018
17 Posts
December 05 2019 14:29 GMT
#2
You get more points when you win and they are drawn from the bonus pool.
PlanetNine_Sc2
Profile Joined March 2019
9 Posts
December 05 2019 15:37 GMT
#3
I see! thx
LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
December 05 2019 15:38 GMT
#4
For all intents and purposes you can focus exclusively on your MMR and not care at all about your bonus pool. It's an antique from a previous era that serves no practical value whatsoever.
-Laura
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada469 Posts
December 05 2019 18:28 GMT
#5
It does nothing I don't know why BonusPool is in the game still. The only thing that does matter is your win%'s and your mmr. If your win% is high your mmr will grow steadily otherwise it will slowly decline.
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bloooargh
Profile Joined May 2012
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-05 18:33:31
December 05 2019 18:31 GMT
#6
In theory, Bonus Pool exists to compensate for two shortcomings in the MMR system:

1.
Players returning after a break will be a little rusty, but improve rapidly. Bonus pool helps smooth out the rating jumps for those players, so they're more evenly matched (but don't see themselves losing rank) while they get back into the game.
2.
At the very top, it's possible to inflate your ranking by spamming games constantly. The MMR formula gets skewed when some GMs play 16+hours/day, while others of greater skill are only getting in a few games between private practice sessions.

Blizzard wants their point systems to always look like they're providing bonuses rather than penalties. So instead of deflating the ranks of the players in those two cases, they created the Bonus Pool, which rewards everyone else.

In practice, LHK and Ryu3600 are correct. Bonus Pool doesn't really do anything any more, and the two above issues are handled by the MMR algorithm directly. But since it's a "Bonus", they have to keep showing it to players. Because psychology.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-05 20:05:04
December 05 2019 19:11 GMT
#7
On December 06 2019 03:31 bloooargh wrote:
In theory, Bonus Pool exists to compensate for two shortcomings in the MMR system:

1.
Players returning after a break will be a little rusty, but improve rapidly. Bonus pool helps smooth out the rating jumps for those players, so they're more evenly matched (but don't see themselves losing rank) while they get back into the game.
2.
At the very top, it's possible to inflate your ranking by spamming games constantly. The MMR formula gets skewed when some GMs play 16+hours/day, while others of greater skill are only getting in a few games between private practice sessions.

Blizzard wants their point systems to always look like they're providing bonuses rather than penalties. So instead of deflating the ranks of the players in those two cases, they created the Bonus Pool, which rewards everyone else.

In practice, LHK and Ryu3600 are correct. Bonus Pool doesn't really do anything any more, and the two above issues are handled by the MMR algorithm directly. But since it's a "Bonus", they have to keep showing it to players. Because psychology.


I don't think that is how it works

Afaik, bonus pool is only used for the ladder point ranking within your league. If you like to compete within that, it actually matters.

Most of the more serious community could not care less about that rank before Master 1, especially since you can spend your pool and have a top rank but still be pretty far from promotion (which is triggered by mmr.)

Provisional MMR and bonus pool are also different.

So many numbers, baaaah! This might just get you more confused...
Buff the siegetank
PlanetNine_Sc2
Profile Joined March 2019
9 Posts
December 05 2019 19:56 GMT
#8
thx all for your help, it's true that maybe it does not serve any purpose. Good to know
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