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What If? - Rogue in the Code S finals - Page 2

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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
September 27 2019 17:39 GMT
#21
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.

People chalk that up to nerves and a general clown fiesta series while remembering he stomped Stats in the ro16.
Hunta15
Profile Joined April 2014
United States81 Posts
September 27 2019 19:40 GMT
#22
On September 28 2019 01:54 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 01:14 CicadaSC wrote:
can't tell if people saying patchzerg are memeing or not.

In 2019:
soO won his first significant championship.
Dark made and then won his first GSL finals.
Rogue made his first GSL ro4, finals, and can still win the tournament.
It is the first year in LotV and first time since 2015 with 4 ZvZ finals of significant tournaments.


Championship level players make the finals, and win. Oh no!
Juny1spion
Profile Joined December 2014
Czech Republic25 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-27 20:12:56
September 27 2019 20:11 GMT
#23
On September 28 2019 02:39 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.

People chalk that up to nerves and a general clown fiesta series while remembering he stomped Stats in the ro16.


Yeah, Stats got stomped in that group though, clearly not his day. I think the negatives of having THESE series vs Zest outweighs the positives of beating Stats by far. Also, if Rogue got there nerves during Ro8, imagine him during his first GSL grand finals
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
September 27 2019 20:26 GMT
#24
To be honest it's not like either of the two players have given us much to be excited for in major offline PvZ. But they get a week of GSL-STYLE PREPARATION™ so I hope to be entertained.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-27 20:58:46
September 27 2019 20:58 GMT
#25
Traveling, just logged to say:


1) cool write ups as always TL.
2) Rogue is going to rekt Trap
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Mettis
Profile Joined June 2019
84 Posts
September 27 2019 21:05 GMT
#26
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.


I don't think he does tbh
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
September 28 2019 00:27 GMT
#27
On September 28 2019 05:26 Waxangel wrote:
To be honest it's not like either of the two players have given us much to be excited for in major offline PvZ. But they get a week of GSL-STYLE PREPARATION™ so I hope to be entertained.

I think Trap gave a very good series vs Serral. The game with the swarmhosts was very very close, imo. All the other games were also very fun to watch.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
September 28 2019 01:44 GMT
#28
On September 28 2019 01:20 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 01:14 CicadaSC wrote:
can't tell if people saying patchzerg are memeing or not.

It's a joke, but he is a victim of circumstances right now. There is a clear perception of late game Zerg being superior to all other races. Should Trap lose 4-0 in long macro games it will he hard to argue against the state of play helping Rogue when looking back on this years from now. That's not how I feel personally, but its definitely a valid view point I foresee many taking if this happens.


True, I would take that point of view in those conditions, I think that is only fair.

Hopefully balance won't be a deciding factor.

I am glad at least one of them will get to win their first GSL, they both deserve it by now imo. Pity its a team kill.

paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
September 28 2019 01:48 GMT
#29
On September 28 2019 09:27 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 05:26 Waxangel wrote:
To be honest it's not like either of the two players have given us much to be excited for in major offline PvZ. But they get a week of GSL-STYLE PREPARATION™ so I hope to be entertained.

I think Trap gave a very good series vs Serral. The game with the swarmhosts was very very close, imo. All the other games were also very fun to watch.


I really liked Traps approach with blink stalkers back then, I wonder if blink vs swarmhost will be a factor in the final considering Rogue can prep for it.

jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
September 28 2019 09:41 GMT
#30
Who needs clothes anyway? Our sexy boy can run naked any time!
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 28 2019 10:00 GMT
#31
On September 28 2019 05:11 Juny1spion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 02:39 Boggyb wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.

People chalk that up to nerves and a general clown fiesta series while remembering he stomped Stats in the ro16.


Yeah, Stats got stomped in that group though, clearly not his day. I think the negatives of having THESE series vs Zest outweighs the positives of beating Stats by far. Also, if Rogue got there nerves during Ro8, imagine him during his first GSL grand finals


Stats got stomped after EMP was buffed (maru used it to crush him) and Protoss midgame got nerfed (bad vs zerg) and OL speed buff.

Before the balance patch Stats was trashing maru and solar
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
September 28 2019 10:13 GMT
#32
On September 28 2019 19:00 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 05:11 Juny1spion wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:39 Boggyb wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.

People chalk that up to nerves and a general clown fiesta series while remembering he stomped Stats in the ro16.


Yeah, Stats got stomped in that group though, clearly not his day. I think the negatives of having THESE series vs Zest outweighs the positives of beating Stats by far. Also, if Rogue got there nerves during Ro8, imagine him during his first GSL grand finals


Stats got stomped after EMP was buffed (maru used it to crush him) and Protoss midgame got nerfed (bad vs zerg) and OL speed buff.

Before the balance patch Stats was trashing maru and solar

You realize that Maru is by far the best terran in the world right?
So if he gets "trashed" by Stats, that means there is a problem that needs to be addressed?

And considering Trap 4-1ed Maru after the patch, the patch was long overdue.

Maybe they shouldn't have nerfed protoss so much but buffed terran / nerfed nydus and/or infestor a bit more and it would have been fine, idk.
WriterMaru
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-28 10:22:59
September 28 2019 10:17 GMT
#33
Congratulation Rogue. I think you have completed all the titles within the two years : Code S, Blizzcon, Katowice, ST, Shanghai.

Maybe you seek for WESG title next year if that sound matter to you.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 28 2019 10:22 GMT
#34
On September 28 2019 19:00 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 05:11 Juny1spion wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:39 Boggyb wrote:
On September 28 2019 02:34 Juny1spion wrote:
Trap still has a serious shot at beating Rogue. Can't believe so many people are confident to say Rogue takes this after his series vs Zest.

People chalk that up to nerves and a general clown fiesta series while remembering he stomped Stats in the ro16.


Yeah, Stats got stomped in that group though, clearly not his day. I think the negatives of having THESE series vs Zest outweighs the positives of beating Stats by far. Also, if Rogue got there nerves during Ro8, imagine him during his first GSL grand finals


Stats got stomped after EMP was buffed (maru used it to crush him) and Protoss midgame got nerfed (bad vs zerg) and OL speed buff.

Before the balance patch Stats was trashing maru and solar


Man, don't worry. They will buff Protoss next patch, and most likely nerf Zerg.
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