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This is so sweet!!!! I really want to go, but I have no money and we're at the end of the school year 
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2 weeks to go! Let the inviting begin! Or sth along those lines 
After Starcraft is before even more Starcraft!
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On November 05 2019 01:04 Harris1st wrote:2 weeks to go! Let the inviting begin! Or sth along those lines After Starcraft is before even more Starcraft!
The number of Protoss(9), Terran(12) and Zerg(11) participating is already known according to Liquipedia.
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On November 05 2019 02:32 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2019 01:04 Harris1st wrote:2 weeks to go! Let the inviting begin! Or sth along those lines After Starcraft is before even more Starcraft! The number of Protoss(9), Terran(12) and Zerg(11) participating is already known according to Liquipedia.
Yep, source is NarutO on Twitter!
Also while we are at HSC, they will play on the new patch.
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does that mean taketv has confirmation from blizzard that the post blizzcon patch will hit before nov 21? (or is that info already public and i missed it?)
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On November 05 2019 04:44 brickrd wrote:
does that mean taketv has confirmation from blizzard that the post blizzcon patch will hit before nov 21? (or is that info already public and i missed it?)
nope, I think it means they will play the new patch, even if it is not on the ladder by then
Edit: basically they will host every game with the balance test mod, which would sadly mean no gameheart I think
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Will it be on the new maps (assuming Blizzard actually releases them in a timely manner)?
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On November 05 2019 05:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Will it be on the new maps (assuming Blizzard actually releases them in a timely manner)?
Unlikely
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When will players be announced? Hoping to see as many of the top ~10 koreans as possible
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already seems to be fully booked :D
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Anyone want to buy me a ticket. Big hugs in return!
Never ever been to a StarCraft event 
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On November 05 2019 04:49 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2019 04:44 brickrd wrote:
does that mean taketv has confirmation from blizzard that the post blizzcon patch will hit before nov 21? (or is that info already public and i missed it?) nope, I think it means they will play the new patch, even if it is not on the ladder by then Edit: basically they will host every game with the balance test mod, which would sadly mean no gameheart I think
interesting... so technically there could be a chance of blizzard watching the tournament, changing their mind about something in the patch based on what they see, and reverting/altering it?
it wouldn't be a big deal, but it would be kind of interesting to have a major tournament played on a "fake" patch if it did happen - not in a bad way, more like just an odd trivia item
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This will be a happy time for the players. Just going there would be fun.
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It s allready trendig in Liquipedia, just because people are checking for the participating Players!! Hype!
When are they going to reveal the first Players?
Hoping for as many as possible Blizzcon Players
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Player announcements start today
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On November 06 2019 01:46 NarutO wrote:Player announcements start today
Hype!
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We will do this prize split by the wax:
1.8000$
2.5000$
3.3000$
4. 2000$
5./6. 1300$
7./8. 900$
9. - 12. 400$
13. - 16. 250$
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Nice prize splitting. I'm always a bit put off by other tournaments that have massive (more than double) gaps between first and second place.
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On November 06 2019 02:37 Kitai wrote:
Nice prize splitting. I'm always a bit put off by other tournaments that have massive (more than double) gaps between first and second place.
Exatly. That's mostly korean tournaments and some IEM's, but yeah.
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Maximum hype for the player announcements. Hope TY goes to HSC again!
Great job on the prize pool too.
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Maybe we should change the title to HSC 20 information and player announcements etc rather than ticket information? A bit misleading when its used as player announcement thread now^^
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On November 06 2019 02:52 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2019 02:37 Kitai wrote:
Nice prize splitting. I'm always a bit put off by other tournaments that have massive (more than double) gaps between first and second place. Exatly. That's mostly korean tournaments and some IEM's, but yeah.
Or WESG 2019, wich was super bad in terms of prize splitting.
Way better Job here, looks realy fair
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On November 06 2019 05:02 TaKeTV wrote:
Maybe we should change the title to HSC 20 information and player announcements etc rather than ticket information? A bit misleading when its used as player announcement thread now^^
Haha sorry. I revived this thread cause I didn't want to start a new one just to ask questions and this was the newest one concering HSC
We'll just get it in the "Hot" section so everyone is checking it out anyway xD
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NOICE!
A Zerg monster and a party monster ^^
Off to a good start
Man I wish I could attend
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Will it be played on the new balance patch?
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On November 06 2019 19:20 bulya wrote:
Will it be played on the new balance patch?
The information is on thw first page.
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On November 06 2019 19:20 bulya wrote:
Will it be played on the new balance patch?
Yes, even if it's not released official
On November 06 2019 19:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2019 19:20 bulya wrote:
Will it be played on the new balance patch? The information is on thw first page.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just answer...
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On November 05 2019 13:07 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2019 04:49 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2019 04:44 brickrd wrote:
does that mean taketv has confirmation from blizzard that the post blizzcon patch will hit before nov 21? (or is that info already public and i missed it?) nope, I think it means they will play the new patch, even if it is not on the ladder by then Edit: basically they will host every game with the balance test mod, which would sadly mean no gameheart I think interesting... so technically there could be a chance of blizzard watching the tournament, changing their mind about something in the patch based on what they see, and reverting/altering it? it wouldn't be a big deal, but it would be kind of interesting to have a major tournament played on a "fake" patch if it did happen - not in a bad way, more like just an odd trivia item
well it happened before with  HomeStory Cup/16
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On November 06 2019 21:10 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2019 19:34 Ej_ wrote:On November 06 2019 19:20 bulya wrote:
Will it be played on the new balance patch? The information is on thw first page. Wouldn't it have been easier to just answer...
Every now and then you just need to get some satisfaction by pointing out people are so lazy they'd rather wait an hour for someone to give them an answer than to spend a minute looking it up themselves.
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Would it be possible to have some of racing Showmatches there as well?
https://reddit.app.link/MbPmPykWo1
There is a rumor, that Reynors Terran is also pretty sick.
So what about an Reynor v Serral TvT :D
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I gues it makes sense to add players and other information to the OP, so a mod can rename this thread to "Everything you ned to know about HSC XX" or "HSC XX General Information" or something like that if possible
Edit: Thanks!
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Yeah.. I have no money too . It looks so awesome though. Tropical Islands looks like such a sweet venue!! This time next year I'm definitely going to make it though.
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This will be my first time going to HSC. Great to see a big tournament so soon after WCS. Hyped!
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On November 07 2019 06:06 Azhrak wrote:
This will be my first time going to HSC. Great to see a big tournament so soon after WCS. Hyped!
Hf at it, it will have pretty sick lineup^^
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On November 07 2019 05:02 Leviance wrote:
White-Ra ♥
I haven't follow since HOTS midway and back for good since last year. What happen to my Protoss hero? Is he will playing?
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On November 07 2019 11:20 floating__bee wrote:I haven't follow since HOTS midway and back for good since last year. What happen to my Protoss hero? Is he will playing?
no results for him on liquipedia since mid 2014: White-Ra/Results
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Is there an alphabetical order of the players on the liquipedia page? If so, then there are 3 zerg players on S betwixt Serral and Stephano. The second letter in their names are between E and T. My guess is Socke, soO and Solar.
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Snute and SortOf are also possible I think.
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HSC is my favorite tournament. Thank you Take for all the work you've done for Starcraft for all those years, it's amazing to see that a decade later you're still so passionate about it. Can't wait to spend my weekend on Twitch!
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HSC. I am ready
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Do you have to link your Battle.net account to Matcherino to get the in-game goodies? Or is it a redemption code?
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On November 05 2019 03:26 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2019 02:32 Xain0n wrote:On November 05 2019 01:04 Harris1st wrote:2 weeks to go! Let the inviting begin! Or sth along those lines After Starcraft is before even more Starcraft! The number of Protoss(9), Terran(12) and Zerg(11) participating is already known according to Liquipedia. Yep, source is NarutO on Twitter! Also while we are at HSC, they will play on the new patch. https://twitter.com/NarutOSC2/status/1191328433709682688
I feel like the new patches hardly address the problems Protoss faces versus Zerg.
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On November 08 2019 14:13 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2019 03:26 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2019 02:32 Xain0n wrote:On November 05 2019 01:04 Harris1st wrote:2 weeks to go! Let the inviting begin! Or sth along those lines After Starcraft is before even more Starcraft! The number of Protoss(9), Terran(12) and Zerg(11) participating is already known according to Liquipedia. Yep, source is NarutO on Twitter! Also while we are at HSC, they will play on the new patch. https://twitter.com/NarutOSC2/status/1191328433709682688 I feel like the new patches hardly address the problems Protoss faces versus Zerg.
According to Harstem Protoss might be to strong vs Zerg. He said that on his Stream yesterday
Edit: while playing the Balance Test mod versus Stephano and Clem
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On November 07 2019 20:27 DBooN wrote:
Socke is protoss, no?
I meant SortOf. Just mixed the names in my head.
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what are the dates? why no dates anywhere? november? december??
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On November 08 2019 15:24 RandomPlayer wrote:
what are the dates? why no dates anywhere? november? december??
According to Liquipedia 21st - 24th of November. Pretty sure it is posted somewhere
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I thought the whole point of this tournament is to take place in somebody's home??
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On November 08 2019 16:05 Loccstana wrote:
I thought the whole point of this tournament is to take place in somebody's home??
Might be a bit crammed with several hundred people in your living room ^^
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Nice! Excited to see Cure play.
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On November 10 2019 02:29 Musicus wrote:Nice! Excited to see Cure play.
I read the post, then the poster's name. I was surprised not to see DieuCure.
Cure was really good for a few months a couple of years back (I think it was end of HotS). The most memorable game he played was a TvT vs a top player, I think INno, where Cure played marine heavy and forgot stim until around 16 minute into the game. Good times!
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Purchased the matcherino in-game items to support this.
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On November 10 2019 02:50 Drfilip wrote:I read the post, then the poster's name. I was surprised not to see DieuCure. Cure was really good for a few months a couple of years back (I think it was end of HotS). The most memorable game he played was a TvT vs a top player, I think INno, where Cure played marine heavy and forgot stim until around 16 minute into the game. Good times!
It was 2014, I guess you are speaking of the ro4 he lost 3-4 against Inno. Since June/July this year Cure has been beastly online, it's nice to see him at HSC!
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While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people
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On November 10 2019 03:26 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 02:50 Drfilip wrote:On November 10 2019 02:29 Musicus wrote:Nice! Excited to see Cure play. I read the post, then the poster's name. I was surprised not to see DieuCure. Cure was really good for a few months a couple of years back (I think it was end of HotS). The most memorable game he played was a TvT vs a top player, I think INno, where Cure played marine heavy and forgot stim until around 16 minute into the game. Good times! It was 2014, I guess you are speaking of the ro4 he lost 3-4 against Inno. Since June/July this year Cure has been beastly online, it's nice to see him at HSC!
Happy Bday!
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On November 10 2019 03:31 TaKeTV wrote:While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people
T A E Y A N G
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On November 10 2019 03:31 TaKeTV wrote:While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people
EonbluE will give his comeback?!
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The homestorycup.com URL gets me to a Matcherino blank page
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On November 07 2019 11:20 floating__bee wrote:I haven't follow since HOTS midway and back for good since last year. What happen to my Protoss hero? Is he will playing?
Haven't seen him play for years :/ But I'm sure he will be at HSC XX
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On November 10 2019 05:33 kubaPS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 03:31 TaKeTV wrote:While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people EonbluE will give his comeback?!
I'd normally say that a player of his level is just a waste of space as a free win for everyone involved, but he's a dick as a mod in PiG's channel, so I hope he plays and his opponents style on him.
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On November 10 2019 08:38 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 05:33 kubaPS wrote:On November 10 2019 03:31 TaKeTV wrote:While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people EonbluE will give his comeback?! I'd normally say that a player of his level is just a waste of space as a free win for everyone involved, but he's a dick as a mod in PiG's channel, so I hope he plays and his opponents style on him.
My dude, you were a massive douchebag in PiGs chat. I called you out on it and got you demodded but thats forever ago. I havent been interacting with PiGs chat in over a year for vaious reasons. Go ahead and hold your grudge but be aware that there are two dicks involved in this, not just me.
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On November 10 2019 03:45 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 03:26 Xain0n wrote:On November 10 2019 02:50 Drfilip wrote:On November 10 2019 02:29 Musicus wrote:Nice! Excited to see Cure play. I read the post, then the poster's name. I was surprised not to see DieuCure. Cure was really good for a few months a couple of years back (I think it was end of HotS). The most memorable game he played was a TvT vs a top player, I think INno, where Cure played marine heavy and forgot stim until around 16 minute into the game. Good times! It was 2014, I guess you are speaking of the ro4 he lost 3-4 against Inno. Since June/July this year Cure has been beastly online, it's nice to see him at HSC! Happy Bday!
Thank you
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On November 10 2019 09:10 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 03:45 Nakajin wrote:On November 10 2019 03:26 Xain0n wrote:On November 10 2019 02:50 Drfilip wrote:On November 10 2019 02:29 Musicus wrote:Nice! Excited to see Cure play. I read the post, then the poster's name. I was surprised not to see DieuCure. Cure was really good for a few months a couple of years back (I think it was end of HotS). The most memorable game he played was a TvT vs a top player, I think INno, where Cure played marine heavy and forgot stim until around 16 minute into the game. Good times! It was 2014, I guess you are speaking of the ro4 he lost 3-4 against Inno. Since June/July this year Cure has been beastly online, it's nice to see him at HSC! Happy Bday! Thank you
Happy bday, may serral guide your way
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On November 10 2019 08:28 Leviance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2019 11:20 floating__bee wrote:On November 07 2019 05:02 Leviance wrote:
White-Ra ♥ I haven't follow since HOTS midway and back for good since last year. What happen to my Protoss hero? Is he will playing? Haven't seen him play for years :/ But I'm sure he will be at HSC XX
He works for twitch now, also he has kids, thats why he hasn't been around, but hopefully!
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Wow man, looks like a great event!!
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TaeJa at HSC is very very nice, he had to be there at HSC20 tbh. Wish MC was still relevant at SC2 and went there as well. TIME getting invited is pleasant too, especially the chinese crowd is gonna like it I guess.
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Taeja was really impressive at HSC XVIII, let's see what he can do this time!
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HSC 20 without Taeja would be sad, great to see him in the roster. Time really had a great year and showed that he can go toe to toe with the best, exciting to have him there, too.
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On Liquipedia it says that soO and Elazer are confirmed as well?
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On November 11 2019 05:46 dbRic1203 wrote:
On Liquipedia it says that soO and Elazer are confirmed as well?
They are confirmed. But they took a picture of Crank instead of ssO, so they deleted the post.
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One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well
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On November 10 2019 08:52 EonBlu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2019 08:38 Boggyb wrote:On November 10 2019 05:33 kubaPS wrote:On November 10 2019 03:31 TaKeTV wrote:While we don't particularly sorted announcements from "bad" to "good" I can tell you that the upcoming announcements should all be pretty satisfying for people EonbluE will give his comeback?! I'd normally say that a player of his level is just a waste of space as a free win for everyone involved, but he's a dick as a mod in PiG's channel, so I hope he plays and his opponents style on him. My dude, you were a massive douchebag in PiGs chat. I called you out on it and got you demodded but thats forever ago. I havent been interacting with PiGs chat in over a year for vaious reasons. Go ahead and hold your grudge but be aware that there are two dicks involved in this, not just me.
ah, many men have heard this sentence in many very different contexts...
anyway, i'm hyped! get Artosis playing! :D
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Liquipedia says our most favourite Big Boi PARTINGU is confirmed for HSC XX, that's great!
And there is DIE MAUER too!
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On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well
And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar.
Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon
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On November 12 2019 01:41 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar. Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon
It would be amazing if the remaining Zergs were Solar, Dark and Reynor; Scarlett said she won't be in, Lambo did not confirm but he may very well be in and I, too, fear that Dark will never get to play at HSC.
I expect Heromarine and uThermal; as for Koreans, there is no HSC without Bunny and we might get TY or Inno.
Some NA player(will Special and Neeb ever come?) would be great, too.
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FruitBunker on Reddit who works with HSC stated Dark declined due to the language barrier a few days ago.
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On November 12 2019 02:32 JJH777 wrote:
FruitBunker on Reddit who works with HSC stated Dark declined due to the language barrier a few days ago.
Sad but not unexpected. It’s a big trip and the party is in English.
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On November 12 2019 02:32 JJH777 wrote:
FruitBunker on Reddit who works with HSC stated Dark declined due to the language barrier a few days ago.
Yeah FruitBunker = NarutO, just so we're all on the same page.
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On November 12 2019 01:47 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2019 01:41 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar. Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon It would be amazing if the remaining Zergs were Solar, Dark and Reynor; Scarlett said she won't be in, Lambo did not confirm but he may very well be in and I, too, fear that Dark will never get to play at HSC. I expect Heromarine and uThermal; as for Koreans, there is no HSC without Bunny and we might get TY or Inno. Some NA player(will Special and Neeb ever come?) would be great, too.
Yeah, it s been pretty much Koreans vs Eu at HSC so far.. Neeb and Special would be pretty nice
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On November 12 2019 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2019 01:47 Xain0n wrote:On November 12 2019 01:41 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar. Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon It would be amazing if the remaining Zergs were Solar, Dark and Reynor; Scarlett said she won't be in, Lambo did not confirm but he may very well be in and I, too, fear that Dark will never get to play at HSC. I expect Heromarine and uThermal; as for Koreans, there is no HSC without Bunny and we might get TY or Inno. Some NA player(will Special and Neeb ever come?) would be great, too. Yeah, it s been pretty much Koreans vs Eu at HSC so far.. Neeb and Special would be pretty nice
NA never attends
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On November 12 2019 03:53 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2019 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2019 01:47 Xain0n wrote:On November 12 2019 01:41 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar. Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon It would be amazing if the remaining Zergs were Solar, Dark and Reynor; Scarlett said she won't be in, Lambo did not confirm but he may very well be in and I, too, fear that Dark will never get to play at HSC. I expect Heromarine and uThermal; as for Koreans, there is no HSC without Bunny and we might get TY or Inno. Some NA player(will Special and Neeb ever come?) would be great, too. Yeah, it s been pretty much Koreans vs Eu at HSC so far.. Neeb and Special would be pretty nice NA never attends
I would have rather said almost never or not anymore, Scarlett was the last one joining one HSC two years ago IIRC if we don't count Special's countless last minute declines but NA presence wasn't that uncommon in the past.
Or are you implying we should never expect NA players from now on?
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On November 12 2019 04:02 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2019 03:53 TaKeTV wrote:On November 12 2019 02:56 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 12 2019 01:47 Xain0n wrote:On November 12 2019 01:41 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 11 2019 22:38 Harris1st wrote:
One of the missing Terrans is obviously the biggest of dancers, huge Gabe. And hoping for some casting power with TY as well And the missing Zergs are most likely Lambo, Reynor and probably one more Korean? I d put my money on Solar. Scarlett, Ragnarok or Dark would be pretty dope as well, but Dark is probably not going to happen any time soon It would be amazing if the remaining Zergs were Solar, Dark and Reynor; Scarlett said she won't be in, Lambo did not confirm but he may very well be in and I, too, fear that Dark will never get to play at HSC. I expect Heromarine and uThermal; as for Koreans, there is no HSC without Bunny and we might get TY or Inno. Some NA player(will Special and Neeb ever come?) would be great, too. Yeah, it s been pretty much Koreans vs Eu at HSC so far.. Neeb and Special would be pretty nice NA never attends I would have rather said almost never or not anymore, Scarlett was the last one joining one HSC two years ago IIRC if we don't count Special's countless last minute declines but NA presence wasn't that uncommon in the past. Or are you implying we should never expect NA players from now on?
The past is the past. Maybe the travel is too much during WCS and holiday in offseason. I don't mind it. I would love to see Neeb and SpeCial but I am human myself so I kind of lose hope on getting them to a HSC. If they won't come to HSC XX which is a really nice event they probably wouldn't attend another one.
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HSC is one of my favorites, im so glad this is happening!
'm thinking about taking a couple of days off to watch as much of it as i can
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Have you considered changing the map pool? Maybe switch in a Kairos Junction and New Repugnancy for Winters Gate and World of Sleepers?
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On November 11 2019 05:02 Rob-Zero wrote:
HSC 20 without Taeja would be sad, great to see him in the roster. Time really had a great year and showed that he can go toe to toe with the best, exciting to have him there, too.
It's not summer and it's not the old Taeja, so while I like him I try to keep my hype low
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go go Polish players, go go foreigners!
Gonna be an awesome tournament!
Maybe the last HSC..? Hope not.
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Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way...
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On November 13 2019 01:25 Slydie wrote:
Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way...
They said it will be on the new patch
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Lets goooo Stats. Really hope he has a dominate performance after a disappointing ro16 for the WCS Finals. Tbh these two in the finals would be perfect for me.
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YES! TY and Stats in the house. The two players I wanted to go the most. This is already going to be sick. Looking forward to more sick play and casting from TY as well as an even drunker Stats.
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We are not done yet. There are some really nice players still :>
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On November 13 2019 01:40 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 01:25 Slydie wrote:
Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way... They said it will be on the new patch
Oops, I am blind, I just saw it is already in the OP.
Maybe the Liquipedia page could be updated to show it is the post blizzcon unreleased patch in "game version."
I hope for more Terran success following up the Wardi tournaments, at least until P and Z ajust to the new meta.
GJ getting a good lineup! Who is missing? I hope for Reynor, Heromarine, Snute, souL and maybe... Dark?
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On November 13 2019 03:47 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 01:40 Nakajin wrote:On November 13 2019 01:25 Slydie wrote:
Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way... They said it will be on the new patch Oops, I am blind, I just saw it is already in the OP. Maybe the Liquipedia page could be updated to show it is the post blizzcon unreleased patch in "game version." I hope for more Terran success following up the Wardi tournaments, at least until P and Z ajust to the new meta. GJ getting a good lineup! Who is missing? I hope for Reynor, Heromarine, Snute, souL and maybe... Dark?
I think NarutO said Dark won't be there on reddit, but souL is already confirmed and I am sure Reynor and Big Gabe can't be missing.
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On November 13 2019 03:51 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 03:47 Slydie wrote:On November 13 2019 01:40 Nakajin wrote:On November 13 2019 01:25 Slydie wrote:
Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way... They said it will be on the new patch Oops, I am blind, I just saw it is already in the OP. Maybe the Liquipedia page could be updated to show it is the post blizzcon unreleased patch in "game version." I hope for more Terran success following up the Wardi tournaments, at least until P and Z ajust to the new meta. GJ getting a good lineup! Who is missing? I hope for Reynor, Heromarine, Snute, souL and maybe... Dark? I think NarutO said Dark won't be there on reddit, but souL is already confirmed and I am sure Reynor and Big Gabe can't be missing.
But the way they keep dropping hints I'm guessing we'll get another couple of big Korean names.
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On November 13 2019 03:53 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 03:51 Musicus wrote:On November 13 2019 03:47 Slydie wrote:On November 13 2019 01:40 Nakajin wrote:On November 13 2019 01:25 Slydie wrote:
Any chance this will be held on the new patch? Blizzcon did not promote the current one in a good way... They said it will be on the new patch Oops, I am blind, I just saw it is already in the OP. Maybe the Liquipedia page could be updated to show it is the post blizzcon unreleased patch in "game version." I hope for more Terran success following up the Wardi tournaments, at least until P and Z ajust to the new meta. GJ getting a good lineup! Who is missing? I hope for Reynor, Heromarine, Snute, souL and maybe... Dark? I think NarutO said Dark won't be there on reddit, but souL is already confirmed and I am sure Reynor and Big Gabe can't be missing. But the way they keep dropping hints I'm guessing we'll get another couple of big Korean names.
Yeah, definitely!
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I hope Fantasy is coming. Maru wouldn't be bad either, but that probably won't happen.
I'm already happy with Stats, Taeja and TY tbh. Parting is great too. Looking at the list, I think Solar is missing, he's great.
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I'm pretty sure soO is gonna be one of the last ones.
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On November 13 2019 04:11 HolydaKing wrote:
I hope Fantasy is coming. Maru wouldn't be bad either, but that probably won't happen.
I'm already happy with Stats, Taeja and TY tbh. Parting is great too. Looking at the list, I think Solar is missing, he's great.
Yeah we need Solar there for the couch too. I'm thinking Rogue could come too, JAGW seems to be showing up in force.
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Thrilled to see TY and Stats. Hoping for Innovation, Rogue, Fantasy, and sOs/herO.
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On November 13 2019 04:17 Z3nith wrote:
I'm pretty sure soO is gonna be one of the last ones.
SoO's already confirmed according to liquipedia?
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Not gonna happen but how sick would a hero showing be before he leaves to the military?
Otherwise these are my hopes (Only considering EU and KR):
Last Protoss player: DNS or zest
Terran player: gumiho, dream, innovation
Zerg: ragnarok, snute, solar, impact (knowing rogue and dark probably won’t show)
EDIT: How did I forget my boy Denver! He better be there haha
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Canada8989 Posts
On November 13 2019 09:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Not gonna happen but how sick would a hero showing be before he leaves to the military?
Otherwise these are my hopes (Only considering EU and KR):
Last Protoss player: DNS or zest
Terran player: gumiho, dream, innovation
Zerg: ragnarok, snute, solar, impact (knowing rogue and dark probably won’t show)
EDIT: How did I forget my boy Denver! He better be there haha
Gumi is going to the army soon sadly I don't think he can get out of the country
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On November 13 2019 09:35 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 09:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Not gonna happen but how sick would a hero showing be before he leaves to the military?
Otherwise these are my hopes (Only considering EU and KR):
Last Protoss player: DNS or zest
Terran player: gumiho, dream, innovation
Zerg: ragnarok, snute, solar, impact (knowing rogue and dark probably won’t show)
EDIT: How did I forget my boy Denver! He better be there haha Gumi is going to the army soon sadly I don't think he can get out of the country
Ah really? Damn. Thought it was just hero and classic that we're losing
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On November 13 2019 09:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Not gonna happen but how sick would a hero showing be before he leaves to the military?
Otherwise these are my hopes (Only considering EU and KR):
Last Protoss player: DNS or zest
Terran player: gumiho, dream, innovation
Zerg: ragnarok, snute, solar, impact (knowing rogue and dark probably won’t show)
EDIT: How did I forget my boy Denver! He better be there haha
How could you not mention Big Gabe and Reynor?
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For the last players I predict:
Protoss: Zest (if not Zest, maybe Skillous?)
Terran: Heromarine, Marinelord, Innovation, Fantasy/Maru
Zerg: Reynor, Solar, Snute
It's kinda what I hope, but I'm already happy with the players right now tbh.
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On November 13 2019 21:07 HolydaKing wrote:
For the last players I predict:
Protoss: Zest (if not Zest, maybe Skillous?)
Terran: Heromarine, Marinelord, Innovation, Fantasy/Maru
Zerg: Reynor, Solar, Snute
It's kinda what I hope, but I'm already happy with the players right now tbh.
Would be a great lineup, but I think it s rather going to be Lambo and not Snute. Wouldn t feel right to miss out on Germanys 3rd NW player
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Wow right, but might also mean no Solar. Lambo should be 100% there, I forgot him somehow.
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On November 13 2019 15:24 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 09:27 TentativePanda wrote:
Not gonna happen but how sick would a hero showing be before he leaves to the military?
Otherwise these are my hopes (Only considering EU and KR):
Last Protoss player: DNS or zest
Terran player: gumiho, dream, innovation
Zerg: ragnarok, snute, solar, impact (knowing rogue and dark probably won’t show)
EDIT: How did I forget my boy Denver! He better be there haha How could you not mention Big Gabe and Reynor?
Haha honestly forgot about them. Just assumed they were already invited even though I was staring at the list. Not a huge huge Gabe fan admittedly. My least favorite type of Terran player, though he’s probably going. Reynor would be great and it’s likely he’s going
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Last Protoss is obviously MC! No HSC without the BossToss
Zerg: Reynor, Lambo, Solar
Terran: Big Gabe, Biggest Gabe, Huge Gabe and Inno
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Snute is retired everyone. He isn't taking a spot of an active player. He would only ever consider playing when actually we are in need.
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On November 13 2019 23:33 TaKeTV wrote:
Snute is retired everyone. He isn't taking a spot of an active player. He would only ever consider playing when actually we are in need.
Would he consider getting drunk and casting in an Australian accent as Probe?
Cause we are ready in need of that.
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On November 14 2019 01:06 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2019 23:33 TaKeTV wrote:
Snute is retired everyone. He isn't taking a spot of an active player. He would only ever consider playing when actually we are in need. Would he consider getting drunk and casting in an Australian accent as Probe? Cause we are ready in need of that.
And apparently Stephano just forfeited his spot so 
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Btw guys, feel free to join the hscxx channel on the TakeTV discord to discuss the HSC or ask any questions! Right now everyone is speaking german, but it's definitely intended as an english speaking channel and will be promoted on stream during the event as well.
You can join right now https://discord.gg/qQeR98J
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Lineup looking good! We already had a sauna afterparty at Assembly this summer but I think Tropical Islands might be able to top it. I'll find out.
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Best thing about HSC is the race distribution is always good
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On November 14 2019 03:08 Azhrak wrote:
Lineup looking good! We already had a sauna afterparty at Assembly this summer but I think Tropical Islands might be able to top it. I'll find out.
They have SEVERAL Saunas, not a fan myself but they have plenty
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On November 14 2019 03:26 Obamarauder wrote:
Best thing about HSC is the race distribution is always good
Its not true unfortunately but I'm trying :D
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This is such a good lineup. Well fucking done bois!!
PS. Why hasn't there been any announcement about soO's participation? He's been listed on LP for a while now. Since LP is obviously infallible, how come TakeTV hasn't made it public?
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On November 14 2019 04:24 sneakyfox wrote:
This is such a good lineup. Well fucking done bois!!
PS. Why hasn't there been any announcement about soO's participation? He's been listed on LP for a while now. Since LP is obviously infallible, how come TakeTV hasn't made it public?
It is public on our twitter. It was removed due to having a wrong picture and was readded today
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On November 14 2019 04:32 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2019 04:24 sneakyfox wrote:
This is such a good lineup. Well fucking done bois!!
PS. Why hasn't there been any announcement about soO's participation? He's been listed on LP for a while now. Since LP is obviously infallible, how come TakeTV hasn't made it public? It is public on our twitter. It was removed due to having a wrong picture and was readded today
Great thanks!
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Artosis will be at the HSC XX
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Finally announced, so hyped for artosis at hsc. Remember to watch the pylon show for the last 4 players and the groups! And just because its the pylon show I guess :p.
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Canada8989 Posts
Wow nice, have fun going to a party with 4 kids Artosis 
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That is so sweet, having Artosis there is going to be great. He's always at his best with the laid back style he and Tasteless does at the GSL, he should fit right in on the couch.
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Really cool to see Artosis going to HSC. I'm so pumped for this tournement right now. Best of 2 sounds very interesting as well.
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If Naruto didn t say, that he allready finalised the groups days ago, I would be glad to belive, that TakeTV was just looking at this thread, to see who the community wants and invites them. Realy sick lineup! The groups are looking realy nice as well, good work on that
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This tournament is gonna be a huge success, not only because of the amazing setup of TakeTV but the players coming, you got Serral making sure we get to see the highest level of Zerg, TY and Time which have shown to be the most impressive Terrans of late 2019 and you have Stats and Trap who on average is the best-performing Protosses of 2019 with only Classic missing. If they manage to get Dark for this tournament as well this tournament is 100% completely stacked with the best players SC2 has to offer atm.
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Aw, no Stephano.
Can't be helped. But it's a kickass lineup anyway!
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Group A looks like the group of death in this one. I expect Terran to be stronger on this patch, and there are 4 good ones as well as many Koreans. Cool that the TvT matchup will actually matter!
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On November 14 2019 16:59 Slydie wrote:
Group A looks like the group of death in this one. I expect Terran to be stronger on this patch, and there are 4 good ones as well as many Koreans. Cool that the TvT matchup will actually matter!
I m not sure, if I d call Teaja a good Terran.. it s 2019 not 2014
For me the groups are looking realy even, so realy good Job on that
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On November 14 2019 17:30 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2019 16:59 Slydie wrote:
Group A looks like the group of death in this one. I expect Terran to be stronger on this patch, and there are 4 good ones as well as many Koreans. Cool that the TvT matchup will actually matter! I m not sure, if I d call Teaja a good Terran.. it s 2019 not 2014 For me the groups are looking realy even, so realy good Job on that
Taeja can come out of nowhere and take serral to a game 5 like last year. Should definitely not be underestimated if he focuses on the new patch already.
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I was gonna say group D is the group of death, but tbh they are all having tons of top and strong players so I don't think there is any.
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noo, why is Stephano skipping it?
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Yeah shame about Stephano, was actually looking forward to his games the most.
Always enjoyed his games on new patches/updates.
Can't be helped, maybe he got sick, its almost winter after all =)
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This is so god damn beautiful, what a sick lineup, and they managed to get so many of the HSC greats for this anniversary edition. Plus, the bold choice to just play the tournament on the balance patch to save us from blord/infestor and nydushost hell. HSC is the true GOAT 
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Hi, can i buy HSC t- shirts individually at the event ? Or can only be ordered?
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On November 14 2019 18:14 Geo.Rion wrote:
noo, why is Stephano skipping it?
He applied to a class which has priority on HSC and got accepted so he can't go to HSC anymore (from his twitter)
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This lineup is definitely fine(I personally wanted to see Serral against Inno, Bunny and TaeJa tho more than against TY). Group A and Group C will be hard fought for sure!
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On November 14 2019 21:03 Shathe wrote:
Hi, can i buy HSC t- shirts individually at the event ? Or can only be ordered?
You will be able to purchase Merch at the event
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look who is casting again!
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Haha great video by DeMusliM and good to have him at HSC XX, can´t wait !
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Bisutopia19300 Posts
Dj Wheat + Day9 should take a vacation and go to this please.
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WhiteRa? Mr.Bitter? #hype
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
Did Dark decline his invite?
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On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite?
Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break.
Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then?
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On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then?
Gotta ask Dark that question :D
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D
Also, did Rogue decline his invite too?
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Canada8989 Posts
On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too?
Probably afraid going to a pool party with Zest would damage his sexyboy reputation
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On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too?
Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined.
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On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined.
Out of curiosity who was invited but declined?
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It's good that TIME would be there to spice up this EU/KR fest
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We all should do our best to make Geoff proud. This one must be for him. I myself will think of him all the way through.
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On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then?
i don't see what's hard to understand. each Korean is an individual human person with their own level of skill at speaking English as well as their own comfort level with social situations. Dark doesn't have to want to go to a party in a foreign country just because Solar or Zest do.
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On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined?
Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too.
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Lowko joins as a caster as well!
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Does luolis join as a caster?
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On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too.
You never bother, I just don't always see every post.
Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano
Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year
Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask)
Special > schedule conflict
Rogue > doesnt want to travel
Dark > language barrier
Maru > doesnt want to travel
sOs > doesnt want to travel
Scarlett > doesnt want to attend
Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped
Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled)
probably forgot someone but thats it so far.
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On November 16 2019 08:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Does luolis join as a caster?
$10000 question
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On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far.
Hmm, I guess Neeb will go to France to play Nation Wars' offline finals if team USA qualifies today; he could have arranged something; Special, on the other hand, is super unlucky with HSC.
Dark's language barrier problem seems weird when there are more than ten korean players while Maru just doesn't like to travel, it can't be helped.
Maybe if the idea of HSC being played in the USA turned out successful we would have eventually seen them play in the tournament...
Thus said, I obviously don't want to complain, the roster is very nice and I appreciate the effort as usual; I just would have loved to see those players at HSC once.
On a side note, I am curious about Dear and Ragnarok. They went to ASUS Rog earlier this year so I guess they wouldn't have problems to travel, and I don't recall them ever being at HSC.
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I love HSC, but it's going to be different without Geoff
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 16 2019 09:34 sneakyfox wrote:$10000 question
I’d be more hyped to see Luolis join as a player tbh, although I realise it would be unfair on the rest of the field.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 16 2019 11:35 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far. Hmm, I guess Neeb will go to France to play Nation Wars' offline finals if team USA qualifies today; he could have arranged something; Special, on the other hand, is super unlucky with HSC. Dark's language barrier problem seems weird when there are more than ten korean players while Maru just doesn't like to travel, it can't be helped. Maybe if the idea of HSC being played in the USA turned out successful we would have eventually seen them play in the tournament... Thus said, I obviously don't want to complain, the roster is very nice and I appreciate the effort as usual; I just would have loved to see those players at HSC once. On a side note, I am curious about Dear and Ragnarok. They went to ASUS Rog earlier this year so I guess they wouldn't have problems to travel, and I don't recall them ever being at HSC.
I imagine language barrier issues are way more pronounced at HSC than at a regular stock tournament.
Basically why so many love the tournament is the house party with a StarCraft tournament attached vibe they have going, but I imagine for Koreans it might be unappealing because they can’t really partake in that aspect so much.
Perhaps that’s a factor for some. For Dark especially he’s had a gruelling year and ascended to the top of the mountain so maybe he wants a break too to enjoy his Blizzcon cash.
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A part of me would like Grubby to come back as a caster. He was one of the best, full of knowledge, especially about protoss, and a likeable guy who would never step on his co-commentator's toes.
It has been a long time since I saw him in the SC2 scene, too bad he jumped on the Heroes train, but maybe he will be back if WC3 reforged gets some decent tournaments.
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Canada8989 Posts
Koreans also have a day of flight to go there and if they miss the top 5 it's quite an expensive trip to take, so I can get why some koreans wouldn't be to interested to go.
~2000$ and at least 2 whole day to go to a party is something to think about.
On top of not beeing to comfortable in an european party
Still it's gonna be amazing
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On November 16 2019 22:27 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 11:35 Xain0n wrote:On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:
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Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far. Hmm, I guess Neeb will go to France to play Nation Wars' offline finals if team USA qualifies today; he could have arranged something; Special, on the other hand, is super unlucky with HSC. Dark's language barrier problem seems weird when there are more than ten korean players while Maru just doesn't like to travel, it can't be helped. Maybe if the idea of HSC being played in the USA turned out successful we would have eventually seen them play in the tournament... Thus said, I obviously don't want to complain, the roster is very nice and I appreciate the effort as usual; I just would have loved to see those players at HSC once. On a side note, I am curious about Dear and Ragnarok. They went to ASUS Rog earlier this year so I guess they wouldn't have problems to travel, and I don't recall them ever being at HSC. I imagine language barrier issues are way more pronounced at HSC than at a regular stock tournament. Basically why so many love the tournament is the house party with a StarCraft tournament attached vibe they have going, but I imagine for Koreans it might be unappealing because they can’t really partake in that aspect so much. Perhaps that’s a factor for some. For Dark especially he’s had a gruelling year and ascended to the top of the mountain so maybe he wants a break too to enjoy his Blizzcon cash.
yet many top Koreans always attend, and some even bothered to learn to speak English during their career. Some wont, but that s okay, for me it's completely fine to have half a Korean roaster and a full EU roster, compared to having full EU+ full NA
On November 16 2019 22:51 Nakajin wrote:Koreans also have a day of flight to go there and if they miss the top 5 it's quite an expensive trip to take, so I can get why some koreans wouldn't be to interested to go. ~2000$ and at least 2 whole day to go to a party is something to think about. On top of not beeing to comfortable in an european party Still it's gonna be amazing
From a business/ cost-benefit analysis point of view it might not make monetary sense to attend for anyone aside from the top5. Yet if you treat it as a semi-casual trip to Europe, with the possibility to promote ur personal brand and earn some money on the side, than it's a no-brainer.
Plus I imagine you could ask your sponsors and whatnot for contributions for the costs involved.
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Man I wish I weren’t a poor college student in the US. I want to go so bad
I’ll have a ton of fun watching though! The player list, the caster list, the overall hype. Amazing. Huge thanks to Take in advance for all the enjoyment I’m going to get out of watching HSCXX
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Just that you know, no korean comes on own cost and we take care of almost every korean
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On November 16 2019 22:51 Nakajin wrote:Koreans also have a day of flight to go there and if they miss the top 5 it's quite an expensive trip to take, so I can get why some koreans wouldn't be to interested to go. ~2000$ and at least 2 whole day to go to a party is something to think about. On top of not beeing to comfortable in an european party Still it's gonna be amazing
We brought nearly all Koreans. All hotels are covered for every player as well. Usually its an argument but for this HSC it isn't. But obviously free time can be worth more than money too
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On November 17 2019 05:12 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 22:51 Nakajin wrote:Koreans also have a day of flight to go there and if they miss the top 5 it's quite an expensive trip to take, so I can get why some koreans wouldn't be to interested to go. ~2000$ and at least 2 whole day to go to a party is something to think about. On top of not beeing to comfortable in an european party Still it's gonna be amazing We brought nearly all Koreans. All hotels are covered for every player as well. Usually its an argument but for this HSC it isn't. But obviously free time can be worth more than money too
Thanks for pulling out all the stops to make this HSC the sickest one yet, aside from the loss of incontrol.
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one question I gotta ask...
Will the nips be iced when Rotti goes topless??
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Great event, great line-up of players and casters. Im really looking forward this hsc! I got one question out of interest: did u invite fantasy and he declined?
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On November 17 2019 17:51 DarkGamer wrote:
Great event, great line-up of players and casters. Im really looking forward this hsc! I got one question out of interest: did u invite fantasy and he declined?
I m not sure, but I belive I ve read it somewhere in this thread, that he wasn t invited. The reasoning behind that was, that not necessarily the best player possible were invited, but also players with a lot of history witch HSC, like TLO or Teaja
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Even while Alligulac isnt that strong when comparing EU and KR Players and it can t handle a Bo2, it is still quite interesting what is predicted by them:
Group A:
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Solar 50.37% 24.78% 13.92% 6.70% 2.77% 1.17% 0.27% 0.03%
Cure 22.94% 29.40% 22.69% 14.54% 6.34% 2.72% 1.07% 0.30%
Trap 15.80% 22.90% 25.30% 19.30% 9.67% 4.28% 1.93% 0.82%
Elazer 7.98% 14.01% 19.13% 20.14% 16.85% 12.03% 6.17% 3.68%
TIME 2.07% 5.19% 9.45% 18.52% 23.42% 18.96% 14.19% 8.21%
TaeJa 0.43% 1.13% 3.56% 7.84% 14.75% 22.87% 25.83% 23.59%
souL 0.27% 1.53% 3.57% 7.97% 15.46% 22.03% 26.53% 22.64%
TLO 0.13% 1.07% 2.39% 5.00% 10.73% 15.94% 24.02% 40.72%
Group B:
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Serral 66.87% 22.01% 7.02% 2.81% 0.81% 0.33% 0.10% 0.03%
TY 23.11% 39.42% 18.87% 10.81% 4.46% 2.23% 0.80% 0.30%
ShoWTimE 3.91% 14.56% 22.62% 19.43% 15.66% 11.83% 8.12% 3.87%
uThermal 3.40% 10.43% 20.38% 21.26% 17.49% 13.40% 8.43% 5.20%
MarineLorD 1.20% 4.12% 10.71% 14.26% 18.03% 20.49% 17.31% 13.88%
PtitDrogo 1.18% 5.83% 11.57% 16.06% 18.62% 17.77% 15.47% 13.50%
Bly 0.27% 2.27% 5.27% 9.28% 14.25% 17.63% 23.57% 27.46%
Kelazhur 0.07% 1.36% 3.56% 6.08% 10.67% 16.32% 26.20% 35.75%
Group C:
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Reynor 49.64% 24.94% 11.96% 7.07% 3.52% 1.81% 0.89% 0.17%
INnoVation 21.14% 23.14% 17.90% 14.56% 10.52% 6.90% 4.00% 1.83%
PartinG 10.88% 17.02% 18.10% 17.06% 15.09% 10.85% 6.87% 4.13%
HeRoMaRinE 9.41% 14.96% 17.36% 15.63% 15.93% 11.85% 9.47% 5.38%
MaNa 4.11% 7.83% 12.11% 15.32% 16.49% 16.51% 15.01% 12.63%
Harstem 2.72% 6.99% 11.41% 13.82% 15.19% 16.72% 17.67% 15.47%
Denver 1.53% 3.62% 7.76% 9.83% 13.30% 19.13% 22.14% 22.69%
SortOf 0.57% 1.50% 3.40% 6.70% 9.96% 16.23% 23.95% 37.69%
Group D:
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Stats 31.27% 22.85% 18.23% 11.87% 8.29% 4.05% 2.59% 0.87%
soO 27.67% 22.48% 18.31% 12.98% 9.57% 5.65% 2.30% 1.03%
Clem 18.70% 19.84% 19.31% 16.17% 11.51% 8.44% 4.37% 1.67%
Zest 14.40% 17.15% 16.71% 17.91% 13.81% 10.32% 6.98% 2.72%
Lambo 4.07% 8.26% 12.97% 15.96% 18.17% 18.96% 12.57% 9.05%
Bunny 2.70% 6.53% 8.53% 13.30% 19.14% 20.06% 17.61% 12.14%
Hellraiser 1.00% 2.00% 4.20% 7.39% 11.52% 18.39% 27.16% 28.35%
Zanster 0.20% 0.89% 1.74% 4.42% 7.99% 14.15% 26.43% 44.18%
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On November 17 2019 21:01 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2019 17:51 DarkGamer wrote:
Great event, great line-up of players and casters. Im really looking forward this hsc! I got one question out of interest: did u invite fantasy and he declined? I m not sure, but I belive I ve read it somewhere in this thread, that he wasn t invited. The reasoning behind that was, that not necessarily the best player possible were invited, but also players with a lot of history witch HSC, like TLO or Teaja
It's hard to say how good he would perform, however he had really impressive results lately. Imo he brings the most entertaining games of all terrans atm, however that's just my opinion and it's understandable that they didn't invite him (over Taeja or Cure, tho I'd prefer him over Cure at least; then again, Cure might be one of the few koreans that get their flight sponsored so there's that).
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On November 17 2019 21:17 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2019 21:01 dbRic1203 wrote:On November 17 2019 17:51 DarkGamer wrote:
Great event, great line-up of players and casters. Im really looking forward this hsc! I got one question out of interest: did u invite fantasy and he declined? I m not sure, but I belive I ve read it somewhere in this thread, that he wasn t invited. The reasoning behind that was, that not necessarily the best player possible were invited, but also players with a lot of history witch HSC, like TLO or Teaja It's hard to say how good he would perform, however he had really impressive results lately. Imo he brings the most entertaining games of all terrans atm, however that's just my opinion and it's understandable that they didn't invite him (over Taeja or Cure, tho I'd prefer him over Cure at least; then again, Cure might be one of the few koreans that get their flight sponsored so there's that).
I couldnt find a statement if fantasy was invited or not. i was just corious. I also think that he is showing very entertaining games, plays on a really high level and is better then taeja. But the argument with the historic aspect is understandable. but fantasy was at hsc XVII, so i thought he could be invited.
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Sick lineup, really looking forward to it. Big thanks to Take and Naruto (and the rest of the crew) for organizing yet another awesome event! With the new patch it will be interesting how things will turn out, I´m making the ballsy predicition neither Serral nor Reynor will win this, maybe, just maybe, not even a zerg.
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On November 17 2019 23:27 Rob-Zero wrote:
Sick lineup, really looking forward to it. Big thanks to Take and Naruto (and the rest of the crew) for organizing yet another awesome event! With the new patch it will be interesting how things will turn out, I´m making the ballsy predicition neither Serral nor Reynor will win this, maybe, just maybe, not even a zerg.
Serral needs this one to match TaeJa but it will most definitely be harder with the new patch!
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On November 17 2019 23:34 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2019 23:27 Rob-Zero wrote:
Sick lineup, really looking forward to it. Big thanks to Take and Naruto (and the rest of the crew) for organizing yet another awesome event! With the new patch it will be interesting how things will turn out, I´m making the ballsy predicition neither Serral nor Reynor will win this, maybe, just maybe, not even a zerg. Serral needs this one to match TaeJa but it will most definitely be harder with the new patch!
in terms of wins Zest could match Taeja too. He "only" failed the back to back to back by 1 map (first attempt, losing to Patience 3-4)
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No surprise here, but still a cool video from the guys
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On November 17 2019 23:43 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2019 23:34 Xain0n wrote:On November 17 2019 23:27 Rob-Zero wrote:
Sick lineup, really looking forward to it. Big thanks to Take and Naruto (and the rest of the crew) for organizing yet another awesome event! With the new patch it will be interesting how things will turn out, I´m making the ballsy predicition neither Serral nor Reynor will win this, maybe, just maybe, not even a zerg. Serral needs this one to match TaeJa but it will most definitely be harder with the new patch! in terms of wins Zest could match Taeja too. He "only" failed the back to back to back by 1 map (first attempt, losing to Patience 3-4)
That's true, but I would be surprised to see Zest win the tournament considering how he has been playing lately.
Also, Serral wouldn't only match TaeJa's overall and consecutive amount of HSC won but he would also reach him at 11 Premier Tournaments in total(won in 22 months instead of 24).
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Quality observing and admin work confirmed!
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If there are any players have to be replaced, can we please have Goblin or Skillous? They had an amazing showing at Nationwars, would love to see even more from them at HSC.
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Is Reynor eligible to drink? If not, he must have advantage over other drunk opponents.
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On November 18 2019 08:10 pzlama333 wrote:
Is Reynor eligible to drink? If not, he must have advantage over other drunk opponents.
He is 17, so in germany he can buy and consume any alcoholic beverage up to 15% without parental supervision.
FYI german regulations:
14 consume under parental supervision up to 15%
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16 consume and buy up to 15% no supervision
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18 + consume and buy any %
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On November 18 2019 08:10 pzlama333 wrote:
Is Reynor eligible to drink? If not, he must have advantage over other drunk opponents.
Players in the tournament do not drink or play drunk.
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Looks like a great tournament! I have a question on the scheduling side of things - for some players, the tournament ends rapidly on Day1 because they are eliminated quickly.
Is it difficult to schedule the 4 groups so that it all ends on the second day? This will ensure that players will retain an "interest" till end of day2.
Is something like this even desirable for the viewers?
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On November 18 2019 12:01 Azzur wrote:
Looks like a great tournament! I have a question on the scheduling side of things - for some players, the tournament ends rapidly on Day1 because they are eliminated quickly.
Is it difficult to schedule the 4 groups so that it all ends on the second day? This will ensure that players will retain an "interest" till end of day2.
Is something like this even desirable for the viewers?
You mean like playing ~4 rounds of each group compared to two whole groups? There are several reasons to not do it. We have 16 computers available to play - meaning two whole groups. After 4 rounds lots of players potentially have already won or lost key-matches.
Its better to have players available to cast / shoot some videos that are not playing. If players have to play during that day we would prefer not do bother them doing stuff. I see your point and I am not saying its wrong or a bad suggestion but I believe it has more disadvantages for us compared to advantages.
Someone asked if FantaSy was invited:FantaSy was not invited. He asked me but I already had the lineup finalized. There is no reason. Its not that I don't value him or think he's bad but not every player will make it. Also keep in mind lots of people that were originally invited / planned cancelled for example
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On November 17 2019 23:34 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2019 23:27 Rob-Zero wrote:
Sick lineup, really looking forward to it. Big thanks to Take and Naruto (and the rest of the crew) for organizing yet another awesome event! With the new patch it will be interesting how things will turn out, I´m making the ballsy predicition neither Serral nor Reynor will win this, maybe, just maybe, not even a zerg. Serral needs this one to match TaeJa but it will most definitely be harder with the new patch!
Isnt the new patch coming after HSC tho?
EDIT: Nvm, it s in the OP
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On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far.
I love the irony of being on the only airline team in SC2 yet don't like to travel
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 18 2019 18:35 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far. I love the irony of being on the only airline team in SC2 yet don't like to travel
Haha yeah good point. It’s a shame it came slightly later but the Emirates airline sponsor Arsenal, whose legend Dennis Bergkamp was nicknamed ‘the non-flying Dutchman’ and who famously drove to European matches.
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I don't know how I feel about best of 2's instead of Bo3. I feel it benefits cheesier (read: non-standard) players.
Edit: other than that, I'm extremely hyped. LOVE the atmosphere at HSC.
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On November 18 2019 23:33 Lazzarus wrote:
I don't know how I feel about best of 2's instead of Bo3. I feel it benefits cheesier (read: non-standard) players.
Edit: other than that, I'm extremely hyped. LOVE the atmosphere at HSC.
OTOH there's so many games it shouldn't really matter if you lose a game or two to a cheese.
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I dunno Kev, but this HSC looks like an absolute blast!
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Are the groups ordered with map score difference or match wins first? Like is a player with 2-0, 0-2 even or above with a player with 1-1, 1-1? I would also like to know the tie breakers if the main criteria for order is a tie. Traidos, wanna share?
Great to see MrBitter joining the event!
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Feels bad being at work just waiting for HSC to start already. Can't wait to get there.
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can't forget monchi's comment on a TvP: "very beautiful stimpacks"
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Some more hype for you guys
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Special is a god for doing this so last minute. Going to be so sick.
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Yesss Juanito! Shame it’s at the expense of TY but I think he’ll add a ton especially if he’s ever on the casting couch
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Juan participating last minute? Is it opposite day?
Also Kim Phan wtf, neat
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lmao, it's gonna be great to finally have this character at HSC
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So dissapointed TY wont make it. Special adds more color i guess, but I like TY more as a player
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Oh my, I can't wait for the Tosis/Special couch segments.
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Can't wait for serral vs special. I want to call it "chat grudge match"
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On November 20 2019 05:10 mierin wrote:Oh my, I can't wait for the Tosis/Special couch segments.
lol yes, that is going to be Peak Couch.
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On November 20 2019 03:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Yesss Juanito! Shame it’s at the expense of TY but I think he’ll add a ton especially if he’s ever on the casting couch
Hey come on he isn't that heavy.
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Respect to special for coming thru
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On November 20 2019 06:40 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2019 03:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Yesss Juanito! Shame it’s at the expense of TY but I think he’ll add a ton especially if he’s ever on the casting couch Hey come on he isn't that heavy.
Lmao touché
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Prize Pool Doubled. ALIEV GAEM
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