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Fezvezfez
Profile Joined October 2017
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-09 13:46:03
November 09 2018 13:45 GMT
#61
Others remained skeptical and sought to dampen what they saw as gratuitous hype.



Oooooohhhhhhh, that's a burn aimed at the LR trolls!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 09 2018 14:03 GMT
#62
On November 09 2018 22:24 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
There are two players of the year this year, but there can only be one bonjwa of our hearts.

Amazing writeup - thanks to the TL crew.

<3 Dark
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-09 15:04:13
November 09 2018 14:59 GMT
#63
On November 09 2018 12:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2018 09:46 Xain0n wrote:
Now we are back to Korean elitist Chairosaur; I actually preferred the "god bonjwa Serral" one, tbh!

I don't think there can even be a discussion if you are convinced making to Ro8 in GSL twice is better than winning 4 WCS; then, i guess, Gamja is way stronger than Serral in your eyes as he made Ro8 in the last ONPOONG Unranked tournament.

Didn't know Onpoong unranked tournament is a GSL...
If you compare the paths GSL ro8 is for sure harder than winning WCS. Maru for example was in the last season in the easiest group and had to beat Reynor and Neeb to advance - that could as well be the opponents in ro4 and finals in a WCS event.


Yeah, foreigners like Neeb aren't even comparable competition. Hey, does anyone remember who made the ro4 and nearly the finals last GSL? They played against TY and lost 2-4 after almost going up 3-1. The name is slipping my memory atm...
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
November 09 2018 15:12 GMT
#64
I mean, the only thing that I take from this article is that it's wrong to ban drunk santa.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 09 2018 16:16 GMT
#65
While Serral certainly isn’t a bonjwa


I don't know about that Kev...he's met all the requirements
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
November 09 2018 16:21 GMT
#66
There is only one thing lest for Serral to accomplish - win GSL
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 09 2018 16:30 GMT
#67
Cool shit, thanks.

I for one can't wait for Serral's hype casting once again at HSC.
why even
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18288 Posts
November 09 2018 16:35 GMT
#68
On November 10 2018 01:16 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
While Serral certainly isn’t a bonjwa


I don't know about that Kev...he's met all the requirements

No he hasn't.

To qualify as a bonjwa he'd have to beat all other dominant players in a multi-game match. He has not faced off against Maru in a series that counts, except for WESG where he got stomped. He also hasn't faced TY.

Secondly, his domination has been complete, but only over half the scene and only for ~8 months. Compare this to true bonjwas like boxer, iloveoov or savior, whose dominance lasted years.

Has he stepped onto the path to truly be a bonjwa? Yes. But so have many others who fell off. The only sc2 player to perhaps maybe reach a status close to that of bonjwa was mvp. And I still wouldn't even call him a bonjwa. His dominance simply wasn't complete enough.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
November 09 2018 17:08 GMT
#69
Great piece, thanks.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
ShingDingz
Profile Joined October 2017
15 Posts
November 09 2018 19:47 GMT
#70
Great article
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 09 2018 20:00 GMT
#71
At this point even if Serral wins 3 straight GSLs in 2019 someone probably will come up with other excuses like "tHe KoReaN coMpetitiOn is nOt wHat It wAs"!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
KelvaroN
Profile Joined May 2003
Finland33 Posts
November 09 2018 20:35 GMT
#72
On November 09 2018 04:08 sM.Zik wrote:
Serral made me install SC2 again after a full year without playing a single game, and almost 3 years without playing seriously.


Same here! First times since forever I feel hyped for sc2 again 8)!
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
November 09 2018 23:55 GMT
#73
glad Serral's victory motivated and encouraged other foreign fans to play sc2 again. It is indeed a great influence!
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
November 10 2018 00:37 GMT
#74
Nice Article! Serral outperforming all other foreigners right now. I guess the Korean glass ceiling has been shattered.
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
November 10 2018 00:38 GMT
#75
On November 09 2018 07:08 Artisreal wrote:
That was a great read even for someone who doesn't regularly follow sc or sc2 anymore.
Easily 5/7

5/7? :d

I'd say 9/10

It was a good one.
lioneros
Profile Joined November 2016
15 Posts
November 10 2018 07:30 GMT
#76
Nice article and a great year for Starcraft Serral made whole SC2 so much thrilling and interesting to watch.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 10 2018 13:41 GMT
#77
He doesn't simply win.. he makes other players look bad and it's also super fun to watch.

GOAT foreigner and one of the best players off all time because he had the best year any player ever had
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 10 2018 18:28 GMT
#78
Serral mentioned more than once Stats isn't the best as PvZ and that it is his weakness; however, Stats took 5 games from Serral in the two finals they disputed and did seem to fare way better in the matchup if compared to the other top Korean Protoss(Classic,Zest,s0s). Shouldn't we assume Stats has the best PvZ in Korea, then?
If so, PvZ as well as ZvZ is regarded as better understood/developed in foreigner Circuit than in Korea and we have to think Neeb has the best PvZ in the world?
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
November 10 2018 23:33 GMT
#79
What a time to be alive, god damn
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
November 10 2018 23:49 GMT
#80
On November 11 2018 03:28 Xain0n wrote:
Serral mentioned more than once Stats isn't the best as PvZ and that it is his weakness; however, Stats took 5 games from Serral in the two finals they disputed and did seem to fare way better in the matchup if compared to the other top Korean Protoss(Classic,Zest,s0s). Shouldn't we assume Stats has the best PvZ in Korea, then?
If so, PvZ as well as ZvZ is regarded as better understood/developed in foreigner Circuit than in Korea and we have to think Neeb has the best PvZ in the world?

I've seen a few pro's suggest Neeb's PvZ maybe the best in the world atm. I'd personally still say stats is but Neeb is def top 3.
hi. big fan.
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