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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
October 17 2018 19:34 GMT
#21
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

It wasn’t a massive upset, a lot of people liquidbetted it (I did so I could see I didn’t gain much places after Serral victory).
Stats is one of the best Protosses as always but Serral was top 3 Zerg world after his runs at the time.
WriterMaru
ToToRo87
Profile Joined June 2011
Greece8 Posts
October 17 2018 19:52 GMT
#22
Aside from that wild "Nerchio" that popped on the link in the main page, very well written!

Rooting for Stats atm, will be happy to see a Toss player besides $o$ win Blizzcon. One of the most stable players out there.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 17 2018 20:12 GMT
#23
Dream Blizzcon scenario: Stats beats Maru in the semi and revenge on Serral in the finals.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 17 2018 20:15 GMT
#24
I have to agree that Stats is pretty underrated. I think it can fairly be said that Stats is the greatest LotV player. Also, I hope him and Dark go far in Blizzcon; they quietly have a really good rivalry.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 17 2018 20:46 GMT
#25
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
October 17 2018 21:12 GMT
#26
On October 18 2018 05:46 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.



It is not that long, INno Dark and Stats.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 22:12:02
October 17 2018 22:08 GMT
#27
On October 18 2018 06:12 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 05:46 Dave4 wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:49 Rodya wrote:
Why is the featured video on this piece a match that Stats lost? Why not one of his many brilliant victories? It's not even like that tournament was a missed opportunity to assert his legacy. Winning GSL vs The World would have done next to nothing for him.

Stats isn't even underrated. He's considered as the best protoss along with Classic. Serral beating Stats was considered a massive upset; it feels like the writer doesn't think highly of Stats.

I think they picked it because GSL v World is basically the mini-Blizzcon. It's one of the only opportunities to pit the best foreigners against best Koreans in the year now - also I would argue that if Stats could claim to be the only player that Serral couldn't beat in 2018, that would indeed have helped him assert his legacy. Instead he remains one of a long list of Koreans that Serral has bested this year.



It is not that long, INno Dark and Stats.

Bit longer than that.
Maru (X2), Dark, Inno, Stats, Trap, Zest, Impact, Rogue, Trust, Creator
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
October 17 2018 23:07 GMT
#28
Go go Stats!
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 17 2018 23:18 GMT
#29
Serral won 27/44 of his offline games against Koreans this year. That's impressive but players like Maru, TY, Rogue and Classic all have similar win-rates, but over a larger amount of games. So I can't really see why one would think he is the best in the world at least quantitatively. If I had to say, I think he is probably like the 4th or 5th best player in the world at the moment but I think saying he is 2nd best is fair.
SootShade
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 23:36:53
October 17 2018 23:36 GMT
#30
I feel like the author of this piece is getting his framing from some time in the past. I've viewed Stats as a top contender for every tournament he participates in for ages; not the top contender all that often, but if whoever is being hyped up fails to deliver then it's a fair bet that Stats is right there to pick up a win.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
October 17 2018 23:39 GMT
#31
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
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On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
October 17 2018 23:43 GMT
#32
Stats is a beast, shame on the haters.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
October 17 2018 23:52 GMT
#33
On October 18 2018 08:39 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?


cause y'a famous
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37057 Posts
October 18 2018 00:22 GMT
#34
On October 18 2018 08:52 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2018 08:39 Seeker wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:22 Nakajin wrote:
On October 18 2018 03:10 ArtyK wrote:
On October 18 2018 02:21 Elentos wrote:
On October 18 2018 01:57 ArtyK wrote:
The stats never lie. As a famous shitposter once said, "I wouldn't be surprised" if Stats won Blizzcon.

He's not that famous tbh.


He is in our hearts


He's a true legend never to be forgotten for all eternity... We are all talking about the great Philosopher king YokoKano right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously tho I don't have a clue who you guys are talking about, I'm guessing Lorning or Seeker?

Why the fuck is my name in there?


cause y'a famous

Ya damn right I am
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
October 19 2018 17:02 GMT
#35
STATS WINS BLIZZCON<3 LETS GO OG CHIN TOSS
I love LOveRH
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
October 19 2018 21:39 GMT
#36
Stats is basically the Stork of SC2.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
October 24 2018 22:18 GMT
#37
i know he is really good but i dont see him winning it all unless the momentum is in his favor... and even then...
thanks for writing this, was really good :D
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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