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Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
September 08 2018 02:57 GMT
#21
I would be surprised if Zest can manage to take more than 1 map with the way Maru has been playing lately. Just look at his performance vs Gumi with almost no prep time due to the Asian games.

In the past I would have given Zest an honest shot with clever/aggressive strats that could potentially catch Maru off-gaurd, but right now Maru's overall level just seems to be so much higher than basically anyone else in GSL. His crisis management and unit control is just too good. Toss manages to pull off a two-gate proxy (sometimes Maru doesn't even scout it) and he still defends and wins those games. Then there was that instant where Maru ran 2 hellions and a reaper up the ramp into Gumi's main vs Gumi's 2 hellions and a reaper, and Maru still wins the fight going up a ramp when Gumi has high-ground vision/advantage?! Like what?! That SHOULD NEVER even be possible, but Maru consistently bends the laws of SC2.

Tastosis have been saying if for a few months now, but basically if you were to rate each aspect of a players game, Maru would score a perfect 10 in each category, where most other players he has been facing always seem to have a few glaringly obvious weaknesses in their play. I can't for the life of me even find any holes in Maru's play right now.

I just wonder if it will be proxy Rax with sometime proxy Fact Cyclone or Fact at home Cyclone into win vs Zest like it was in the Asian game finals vs Nice.

At this point I feel like Maru has such good execution that he can basically do whatever he wants vs Zest and still come out winning the series without breaking much of a sweat.

Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
September 08 2018 04:34 GMT
#22
On September 08 2018 01:52 Lgnarrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 01:04 Phredxor wrote:
2018 is the highest skilled era though.


End of HotS was the highest skilled era. Post kespa era is a joke tbh. Compare games from 2015 blizzcon with for instance current GSL. The gap is huge.


can you explain specifically what makes you think this?
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nosink_
Profile Joined September 2018
6 Posts
September 08 2018 04:45 GMT
#23
terran is so OP. this isn't even entertaining to watch.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
September 08 2018 05:11 GMT
#24
Well, thank god for the fact it is a semi. Another final like this, may as well shut down GSL.
Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
September 08 2018 05:12 GMT
#25
On September 08 2018 13:45 nosink_ wrote:
terran is so OP. this isn't even entertaining to watch.


Hmm? Thats odd assuming that its really only Maru and TY winning.
And occasionally GuMiho as well, but for the most part Terrans don't en masse come to the playoff rounds all that often.
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Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
September 08 2018 05:23 GMT
#26
It is slightly amusing that people will actually flat out say "Terran is OP" after watching Maru play.

It's like saying "Zerg is OP" after watching Serral play in the WCS Circuit.
bestiszest
Profile Joined March 2015
France103 Posts
September 08 2018 07:56 GMT
#27
The proxy meta getting out of hand is probably fuelling the whine balance though.
Kt Rolster Zest and TY myboys freaking teamkills :'(
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