EPTINnoVation wins HomeStory Cup XVII - Page 2
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Aelendis
Belgium892 Posts
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On July 02 2018 16:53 Charoisaur wrote: He didn't beat Inno in the earlier rounds, Inno lost to Snute, PartinG and Solar. that s right, I remembered incorrectly, i was thinking of the Solar series | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 02 2018 16:52 Brained wrote: oh come on soo....i fell asleep during game 3 how could he throw that series after beeing by far the most solid player this tourney? It's really not a grand mystery. | ||
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Kurao
215 Posts
On July 02 2018 12:16 Cricketer12 wrote: soO breaks the tie with DRG of the most premier tournament finals losses to a single person. His 3 to Inno vs DRG's 2 vs MKP It's funny because it's not even like INno is soO's "cryptonite" per-se, but since they have both reached grand finals enough times and soO's finals performance is what it is, the results are sort of written in stone at this point. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Moreover for me HSC XVII was the best one ever. The format is just superior to the classic one; even the casters and Take liked it, so I hope it's gonna stay like that. I also love how the show has found kind of a balance between absolutely wonky a somewhat serious, we get a lot of fun moments while keeping the casting on a comprehensible level and production going (barring technical issues, which we however should be tolerant about, given how difficult it is to keep such a complex show working). Great to still have Incontrol there, fantastic to see MrBitter after all those years and super cool to see new faces stepping up to the couch - Optimus and Eonblu were just fantastic, especially Eonblue and Incontrol have perfect caster chemistry  A really big draw of HSC to me is that there is a lot of foreigner-korean games. It's almost ironic that we have reached a point where a drunken meme tourney is the only source of that, but that is the sad state of the WCS system unfortunatelly and so much thanks for Take for stepping in at this time of need! | ||
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zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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kajtarp
Hungary490 Posts
On July 02 2018 17:48 zealotstim wrote: My heart aches for soO. Please win GSL or something! Until he doesn't fix the common mistakes hes doing all the time, he won't win anything. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 02 2018 17:41 Kurao wrote: It's funny because it's not even like INno is soO's "cryptonite" per-se, but since they have both reached grand finals enough times and soO's finals performance is what it is, the results are sort of written in stone at this point. Even if you remove the 3 finals, it leaves soO with 7-14 series winrate vs INnoVation. In fact, soO's worst matchup in all of Starcraft 2 is INnoVation, with -35 map score. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On July 02 2018 14:56 Fango wrote: soO has now lost 4-0, 4-1, 4-2, and now 4-3 to INno in finals It's gonna get really weird next tournament when he loses 4-4. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On July 02 2018 17:44 opisska wrote: HSC is such a great thing and such a key part of the current SC2 landscape. I am really glad it continues to live on! Moreover for me HSC XVII was the best one ever. The format is just superior to the classic one; even the casters and Take liked it, so I hope it's gonna stay like that. I also love how the show has found kind of a balance between absolutely wonky a somewhat serious, we get a lot of fun moments while keeping the casting on a comprehensible level and production going (barring technical issues, which we however should be tolerant about, given how difficult it is to keep such a complex show working). Great to still have Incontrol there, fantastic to see MrBitter after all those years and super cool to see new faces stepping up to the couch - Optimus and Eonblu were just fantastic, especially Eonblue and Incontrol have perfect caster chemistry A really big draw of HSC to me is that there is a lot of foreigner-korean games. It's almost ironic that we have reached a point where a drunken meme tourney is the only source of that, but that is the sad state of the WCS system unfortunatelly and so much thanks for Take for stepping in at this time of need! Much agreed...that first cast with Incontrol and Eonblue had me in tears. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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JWD[9]
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On July 02 2018 16:48 Fango wrote: According to liquipedia - Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world. They are commonly held by well-established franchises and are considered especially prestigious amongst the community. Personally don't think HSC counts for most of that. But then again SSL challenge and Cross finals do apparently. On another note, I do think WeSG as a competition is underrated. People seem to disregard it completely in terms of TY/Maru's achievements. Regular offline - check Best players around the world - check (moreso than WCS) Well established franchise - check Especially prestigious - probably not So you have 3+ vs 1- aside from money which really just is a stupid measurement for how great a tournament is. HSC doesnt have 32 top tier players but generally a very high quality nonetheless. If you consider Trap, Stats, Leenock, aLive, Serral, ShoWTimE, Special,Neeb, Scarlett... all didnt want to or couldnt make it. Thats crazy. | ||
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Ej_
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On July 02 2018 21:27 Ej_ wrote: I think the prize pool is directly connected to pro player attendance. I doubt the Jin Air players or Serral would turn their invitations down of the prize pool was a million dollars. On the other hand you can say those are just two more good players so yes it raises the skill ceiling but it doesnt change the fact that the tournament already has very high level players In addition I want to mention that Maru generally doesnt like to leave Korea for example. I would love to see him at HSC since he is #1 Terran but I don't believe he would be a good fit. Regardless of that I would invite him to our tournaments. If I imagine we can run a HSC with 50-100k prizepool and he would suddenly want to come I am very honest to say that I wouldn't be interested to invite him purely on the fact that I feel if this is just about money and not being part of HSC I rather have the #2 Terran that can still enjoy the event, play some DDR etc. ;-) | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On July 02 2018 21:01 TaKeTV wrote: Regular offline - check Best players around the world - check (moreso than WCS) Well established franchise - check Especially prestigious - probably not So you have 3+ vs 1- aside from money which really just is a stupid measurement for how great a tournament is. HSC doesnt have 32 top tier players but generally a very high quality nonetheless. If you consider Trap, Stats, Leenock, aLive, Serral, ShoWTimE, Special,Neeb, Scarlett... all didnt want to or couldnt make it. Thats crazy. I bet you like 10 pushups or something (because gambling with money isn't right, of course) it ended up being a scheduling issue for the pros. Great work as always, hope they show up for HSC18! | ||
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
On July 02 2018 21:01 TaKeTV wrote: Regular offline - check Best players around the world - check (moreso than WCS) Well established franchise - check Especially prestigious - probably not So you have 3+ vs 1- aside from money which really just is a stupid measurement for how great a tournament is. HSC doesnt have 32 top tier players but generally a very high quality nonetheless. If you consider Trap, Stats, Leenock, aLive, Serral, ShoWTimE, Special,Neeb, Scarlett... all didnt want to or couldnt make it. Thats crazy. Major... Premier... who cares? HSC ist uncompareable to other tournaments and deserve its own catergory. | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2720 Posts
On July 02 2018 18:48 neutralrobot wrote: It's gonna get really weird next tournament when he loses 4-4. well it would just be a bo9 with a one map advantage for Innovation coming from the Winner's bracket. Also, obligatory | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Really this was one of the best HSC, from TaKe casting in english and german on the german stream to the observing and main stream casting to the format and the party, but not too much party atmosphere. Well done TaKeTv! | ||
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