Nation Wars V - It's voting time!

On February 28 2018 03:36 Snarosc wrote:


See this, you're exactly the type of people that shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Putting a race above anything else, and preventing great players from coming in just because of a blind obsession. Thanks.

On February 28 2018 12:58 HotDOSBuns wrote:
Jig, Jugg and NoReg; Oh Canadia~

Sucks that Scarlett won't be there to partake in maple syrup shots but these guys are good representatives, I'd be pretty happy with this team. Couldn't bring myself to vote for avilo, I don't have it in me. Tried to vote for what I felt were the best teams, not the meme teams. And yes, I am fun at parties.

On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote

On February 28 2018 04:51 Durnuu wrote:

Yeah, the requirement to sign up was to be GM, so MMR tankers unfortunately can't be there
Speaking of which, wtf is hendronimus doing there ? He's like 4.5k MMR on EU lol. Being GM was a requirement...

On February 28 2018 18:51 SwagSurgeon1 wrote:


Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^

With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case!
http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1

On February 28 2018 18:15 Drfilip wrote:

I vote for those I think deserve some more attention and appreciation along with those I think will make a good atmosphere for the players.

I will not vote for avilo since I don't think he'll mix well with the other players.
Parties? I do not attend them.

On March 01 2018 02:58 Ej_ wrote:

One of the Belgian players is 4,5k mmr I think :D

On March 01 2018 04:23 pvsnp wrote:
I just realized that the current standings are visible o.O

And apparently, the system is allowing people to vote once every day. Is that a bug?

On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote:
I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.<

On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote:
I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.<

On March 07 2018 14:13 JonSnow wrote:


NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games!

On March 08 2018 07:31 Justinian wrote:
Does anyone know how many votes avilo, MCanning and JonSnow had a few days ago? When I looked at the chart before today avilo was ahead, not by a large margin but all three were receiving votes in about the same ratio so the gap wasn't changing much in percentage terms since voting started.

Now though, MCanning and JonSnow's votes have jumped noticeably, pushing avilo into fourth place. I'm not sure what could happen to make voting patterns change like that.

On March 08 2018 07:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Winter endorsed MCanning and JonSnow over avilo.

On March 08 2018 07:44 Justinian wrote:

Ah, that could be it. A little suprising that he has such power though, I thought all of his viewers were bots.

On March 09 2018 06:01 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
One Belgium player was not GM on eligible ladders in 2017-2018. We believe it was not a malicious intent from him but rather a misunderstanding.

Unfortunately it brings the Belgium players to 2, so they won't be able to compete in #NW5. We hope to see this nation back next time!

On March 12 2018 06:12 Ej_ wrote:
We did it, boys.

We killed Starcraft with our own hands.

On March 12 2018 06:12 Ej_ wrote:
We did it, boys.

We killed Starcraft with our own hands.

On March 12 2018 09:01 brickrd wrote:
everyone knows exactly how avilo's matches will end but we're all going to watch it anyway because it's going to be hilarious

On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote:
Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads!

On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote:


you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then.

I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game.

This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me

Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down.

You guys are all awesome

On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote:


What girlfriend?
You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed?

On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote:


you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then.

I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game.

This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me

Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down.

You guys are all awesome

On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote:


Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match

On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote:


Oh, fuck off give him a break.

On March 12 2018 20:39 D-light wrote:

Kinda surprised honestly with the combination of solid current form, entertainment, (chance for even distribution of races), and nostalgia that he still lost to MMA.

On March 12 2018 20:49 Musicus wrote:

Why would you think that?

On March 12 2018 20:59 Musicus wrote:

Oh yeah that happened, thought you were talking about an actual medical examination though.

Anything that we know about avilo that he shows on stream or Twitter can just be an act.

On March 12 2018 22:07 ReachTheSky wrote:


I expected more professional behavior from you given you are an administrator for a real business. Shame on you.

On March 12 2018 21:50 AlgeriaT wrote:
What I find particularly entertaining about this whole thing is that the Avilo haters probably brought this on themselves. That thread on Reddit bashing him for even being in the vote for example, and Rifkin's retort to his "rap... Not to mention the other thread here about Avilo chat people using VPN to manipulate the vote... Oh and Winter's anti-Avilo campaign in his stream of course! All that stuff generated a lot of attention = a lot of PR for Avilo. Any PR is good PR. And on top of that the haters end up coming off like worse people than Avilo himself, only succeeding in generating sympathy for him instead.

Lol.

On March 12 2018 22:58 HsDLTitich wrote:


That doesn't answer my question. Avilo harrassed and stalked a person, to the point that she had to cut ties with everyone in this scene, and everyone is acting like that was no big deal. Shame on me for being passionate about this.



Untrue, Avilo was always winning the poll since the very start of the votes. If anything, people calling him out made JonSnow closer

On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote:


Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god!

On March 13 2018 04:20 avilo wrote:


And this is where you will continue to keep your mouth shut. I've kept up seeing comments popping up in last months of you, ESL ITALIA, attempting to perpetuate this.

Which is where the conundrum comes in for me, because at this point Maria holds some responsibility to shut down people that are defaming me, like you and others, because now i will say this - what she did was irresponsible and ended up defaming both her and me. I highly suspect both you and another admin from ESL Italia, who's name I also have, were sexually harrassing Maria both during, and after IEM, most likely continuously telling her she cannot be involved in e-sports if she was involved with me because it would make ESL "look bad." You, and ESL Italia, a part of ESL have a dislike of me and apparently sexually harrassed Maria to the point you convinced her she could not be involved or seen with me otherwise "she wouldn't have a future in e-sports."

The fact that i've seen you publicly comment even on reddit during and after the initial drama on my stream - "he was never in a relationship with her and is delusional" is beginning to be proof enough that you and ESL Italia were potentially the ones that advised Maria to lie on stream about ever dating me to save face after i found out she cheated on me.

Considering you want to open your mouth now, and considering you are from the ESL Italia organization, considering Maria and I dated for 3 years, the day she lied about it she was talking to admins from ESL and was apparently advised by ESL to lie about being in a relationship with me to save face - also because she wanted to cover up the fact that she had massively cheated on me IRL.

When i have people like you, and others, that are going to continue to push the narrative that i stalked and harrassed a girl, when you from ESL ITALIA know 100% different - there is now a problem and i can openly address it here now since you opened your stupid mouth.

Myself and Maria mutually dated for 3 years. We talked everyday. She went to that IEM Katowice event, that voicemail was real. I knew she traveled with YOU to that event as part of ESL Italia because as i said, we were dating during all of that time and she told me everything. She told and showed me everything, including personal pictures that she had taken as well.

After this event occurred, because of either what she did at this event, or what ESL ITALIA people were influencing her to do so that she could "be involved in e-sports", she then stupidly told me she could not have "<3 David" in her twitter. LOL Does this sound familiar to you? This might sound stupid to some people, but this is only the rabbit hole of e-sports cancer and toxicity that people like you bring onto others personal relationships, all in the sake of "working in e-sports."

You cannot be completely oblivious that she was dating me that entire time because everyone in SC2 already publicly knew this back then, and she traveled to that event with you, an ESL ITALIA admin - nor will I allow you or anyone else to defame me any further with claims from you, AN ESL ITALIA ADMIN, that are completely false, and propagated by the fact Maria lied, apparently cheated on me, and lied to everyone else in this community.

I never pushed Maria away from the SC2 scene - she did that herself by lying to me and everyone else to cover up the fact that she had cheated on me. If you as an ESL ITALIA REPRESENTATIVE AND ESL EMPLOYEE think it's a good idea to continue to PUBLICLY push this narrative that i'm a stalker and was harrassing a woman that i was dating, then i certainly hope you do not represent ESL in any way, shape, or form.

You want to talk toxic in e-sports? Organizations like ESL Italia that have people like you that sexually harrass a known SC2 player's GF and attempt to tell them "hey you can't be involved with us in e-sports" if you're in association with "avilo" so stop dating him or you're not going further than this - you are the truely toxic mother fuckers in this scene, and there are people like you in every type of scene and business that exist that think you can do whatever the fuck you want, lie to get ahead, abuse power to bring other people down, etc.

If any of the above is not true, then you can claim to be oblivious but how likely is that considering you traveled with her to that event? Let me go far to the other way and assume you are just an internet white knight that believes everything a woman says - if it is the case you were lied to and convinced by Maria herself that she was not dating me and you simply know of everything from an outside perspective - the fact is Maria still lied and is pushing people like you to defame me due to lying about us not being in a relationship.

I find that highly unlikely though. But this stops now. You and your alt accounts here, twitch, reddit, wherever else are not going to push stalker/harrassment shit onto me when you are from goddamn ESL ITALIA and representing them and ESL. I have no doubt over the past 8 months you and others involved were the ones continuously trying to push this bullshit, and it stops today.

You do not speak a word of Maria, let alone about me when i took insults, defamation, and bullshit for countless months after August simply to protect her despite the fact i had found out she cheated on me IRL. You and other people in this community did not even realize or understand we made up and were still talking after that but apparently she is just a bold faced liar all around and did not want to admit we were back together, didn't want to face responsibility for lying to an entire community, etc.

Is there anything else you'd like to address about stalking/harrassment ESL Italia representative? There was NEVER any of that from my side, because myself and her mutually dated for 3 years, and continued to even after the drama in august. Now, ESL Italia, from your side of things, it seems very much the opposite. Do you, an official person from ESL Italia, want to continue to attempt to defame me?

On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote:
Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally.

I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama.

On March 13 2018 05:04 Tyrhanius wrote:

I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing :

the one who likes him will see him play

the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated

On March 13 2018 06:31 Azhrak wrote:
Ro32 is set:
https://twitter.com/NationWarsSC2/status/973300469618618369

On March 13 2018 08:19 Mun_Su wrote:



Well if you look at the US président...

On March 13 2018 08:19 Mun_Su wrote:



Well if you look at the US président...

On March 13 2018 16:36 Aeromi wrote:

There will be a group stage when we have 16 teams left.

On March 13 2018 18:12 Aeromi wrote:

Finland is seed 5 while Mexico is seed 6, it was just a typo and it did not affect seedings.

Katowice was not included because the tournament was announced before Katowice.