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IEM PyeongChang bracket and schedule announced - Page 2

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 20:54:54
January 18 2018 20:54 GMT
#21
the specific arrangement of Intel and the IOC where IEM get to use Olympic logo but everyone still has to tiptoe around ever clarifying how this event actually relates to the PyeongChang Winter Olympics is fascinating and hilarious
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
January 18 2018 20:54 GMT
#22
sOs > Scarlett finals
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 18 2018 21:50 GMT
#23
On January 19 2018 05:19 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 05:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 19 2018 05:01 Fango wrote:
On January 19 2018 04:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 19 2018 04:27 Musicus wrote:
On January 19 2018 04:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 19 2018 04:06 Musicus wrote:
Honestly, DNS might be the most dangerous opponent sOs could've gotten I think.


Really? Wouldn't Serral or Elazer be the most dangerous opponents just by virtue of being the stronger players of the foreign scene overall? I don't recall sOs showing a particular weakness to PvP currently, or DnS showing a particular proficiency in the match-up.

I just think that DnS being in Korea makes it so that he will be able to prepare for sOs the best. They (the players in the house) have many Korean friends like Patience and Stats who can give them sOs replays. DnS probably plays against sOs quite often himself on the ladder and in a mirror matchup a lot can happen..

Serral and Elazer won't know what hit them when they play sOs since they don't know the Korean meta as well.

But yeah overall Serral and Elazer are better, so maybe you are right. Still, I think sOs is a beast vs zerg, while Classic slapped sOs around earlier.


Classic's the best player in the world right now. He can slap around anyone he cares to.


sOs and Zest are still the only players beating Classic right now. No Z or T is beating him (consistantly) until the patch


They beat him once. I'd still consider Classic favoured against them. I think PvZ is Classic's weakest match-up (if only by a little) and that soO or Dark stand a better chance against him than sOs or Zest, but his winrate is still 80% across the board post-4.0.


In Pyeongchang, Zest>sOs>Classic. In Katowice, Classic>sOs/Zest.

Given how hard Classic crushed Dark (4-1) and Maru (3-0) in an actual premier event, I don't see how anyone can favour a zerg or terran to beat him


He seems to lose maps regularly in many of his series against Zerg, which isn't the case for his PvTs and PvPs (in fact if you exclude a bunch of foreign Zergs he farmed his win rate against Zerg is significantly worse than his other match-ups). And his series against Dark while quite a strong showing from him did involve an element of trickery which means I see Zerg doing ok against him in the future--game 1 he went for storm drop and lost to a roach hydra push, game 2 Dark went for the gold, and Classic hid two gates in Dark's main punishing him with a bunch of gateway stuff, game 3 was a adept/sentry/immortal push, and game 4 was won off mass gateway, and Classic sneaking units out of his main unseen with a warp prism.

I do think his PvZ is extremely strong, and he's probably favoured against any Zerg, but I do think that it is a tad less dominant than his other match-ups.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
January 18 2018 21:56 GMT
#24
On January 19 2018 04:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Ez for eGGz

You mean an ez GG?
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
January 18 2018 22:01 GMT
#25
On January 19 2018 05:54 Waxangel wrote:
the specific arrangement of Intel and the IOC where IEM get to use Olympic logo but everyone still has to tiptoe around ever clarifying how this event actually relates to the PyeongChang Winter Olympics is fascinating and hilarious
Does this mean that sc2 is first unofficial olympic game?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
January 18 2018 22:10 GMT
#26
Does this mean that sc2 is first unofficial olympic game?


Not first, I think Taekwondo or badmington was first. Anyway, this tournament should be decided between Serral, Sos, Elazer and Major.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 22:16:49
January 18 2018 22:12 GMT
#27
On January 19 2018 07:01 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 05:54 Waxangel wrote:
the specific arrangement of Intel and the IOC where IEM get to use Olympic logo but everyone still has to tiptoe around ever clarifying how this event actually relates to the PyeongChang Winter Olympics is fascinating and hilarious
Does this mean that sc2 is first unofficial olympic game?

First unofficial olympic video game/esport?

Yes.

They had a show with Mike Morhaime, Incontrol and others about it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/188944077
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Kovzirg
Profile Joined July 2016
126 Posts
January 19 2018 01:24 GMT
#28
On January 19 2018 04:06 Musicus wrote:
Honestly, DNS might be the most dangerous opponent sOs could've gotten I think.


Lol’d.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 19 2018 01:26 GMT
#29
I'm really disappointed that there's no Bronze Medal match, makes it feel very un-Olympic
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EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
January 19 2018 01:45 GMT
#30
Hope we can see sOs pulling out all kinds of tricks now that he's in the main event.
花は桜木人は武士
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
January 19 2018 01:49 GMT
#31
i just realized this tournament will be played from monday to wednesday
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Mountain_Lee
Profile Joined January 2018
87 Posts
January 19 2018 05:29 GMT
#32
Time already dead......his TVZ is so bad....even his ZVZ is better than TVZ

Scarlett...Serral...Elazer... he can not do that.

so sad... send him a song 《cold cold》
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
January 19 2018 05:34 GMT
#33
On January 19 2018 10:49 Topin wrote:
i just realized this tournament will be played from monday to wednesday

That's... a shame
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
January 19 2018 05:49 GMT
#34
Ah, can't wait for Zest vs $O$ finals.
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands685 Posts
January 19 2018 06:59 GMT
#35
Monday to wednesday? :S
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Milleus
Profile Joined January 2014
Denmark29 Posts
January 19 2018 07:23 GMT
#36
So Scarlet can actually come far this tournament!
After all said and done, one and one still is ONE.
Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 10:43:16
January 19 2018 10:33 GMT
#37
So many of my favorite players this tournament, even stephano made it wow. and of the koreans i like only sOs, soo and hero more then zest. And of foreigners only snute is missing 8(.

Edit:

These types of european qualifiers divided by country or region are good for having different nationalities for the fans but kinda feel bad for some players, like in this case snute and uthermal having to each fight for 1 spot with serral and elazer, respectively. Happened to snute in wecg qualifier also: norway and fighting for one spot with finland, while denmark had 1, and russia and ucraine had 2 each...

Lol at stephano getting through the african qualifiers 8)

Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
January 19 2018 11:24 GMT
#38
The only way I see a non sOs vs Zest finals is DnS actually upsetting sOs.. And given DnS recent performances in korea that wouldn't be such an upset (+ it's PvP).

Zest & sOs playing foreign zergs right after the Hydralisk nerf.. Can't see them lose, especially in a Bo5.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 11:43:11
January 19 2018 11:42 GMT
#39
It turns out that SC2 is actually a winter sport... Who knew ?
Anyways, can't wait to see who between Zest and sOs will be our first Olympic champion.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 12:45:46
January 19 2018 12:45 GMT
#40
No WCS points for the event. The seeding is a bit off as usual. Probably should be:

Special/Pandabearme – Demilove
Probe – Stephano
Sos - DNS
Kelazhur – Heromarine
Serial –Nice
Cham/Scarlett - Bly
Zest - Time
Elazer - Eggz
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