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The Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy - Page 7
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pvsnp
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Penev
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 12 2018 08:45 pvsnp wrote: Denying that the hydra buff helped Rogue (or any Zerg) is pure idiocy. But I wouldn't go so far as to call him a patchzerg either, though it's fair to say that Rogue received disproportionate benefits from the hydra buff due to his playstyle. As far as his legacy goes, Rogue will lose to time. The nature of SC2 is such that no player has ever managed to dominate the professional scene for very long. Peaks and slumps are inevitable. Only players with both long careers and sufficient skill can experience multiple peaks and eventually build an enduring legacy. Rogue is not one of those players. The end of 2017 was his first peak and there simply isn't enough time left to catch up to players with more storied legacies. Of the remaining pros, only Zest and Inno can claim something akin to that and even both of them still have a ways to go. What do you mean by that? Your post makes it sound like he couldn't go on to have another strong 5 years. I play mostly BW, so don't follow that closely, but you make it sounds like he is about to run out of time or something. Has he said he is leaving SC2 by some definitive date? | ||
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Elentos
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On January 13 2018 05:55 L_Master wrote: What do you mean by that? Your post makes it sound like he couldn't go on to have another strong 5 years. I play mostly BW, so don't follow that closely, but you make it sounds like he is about to run out of time or something. Has he said he is leaving SC2 by some definitive date? That's less concern about Rogue leaving the scene any time soon and more concern about the scene itself not having many more years left in it at the professional level in Korea. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On January 13 2018 06:00 Elentos wrote: That's less concern about Rogue leaving the scene any time soon and more concern about the scene itself not having many more years left in it at the professional level in Korea. Since you can't defer enlistment once you reach age 29 (and add 1 to all player ages because Korean age), it's absolutely guaranteed that the SC2 scene in Korea won't last for another 5 years, Rogue included. Unless you count Maru and Creator playing showmatches as a "professional scene." | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
But I believe he's not a snowflake and he would be able to take it if he knew. I can take it too. I honestly believe that the last line is there only for trolling purposes and should have been left out, but since it's out... Guys, just get over it. Classic had similar start. Do you remember how he lost his RO32 group few weeks after winning the GSL title? Everyone was about luck, patch toss and other shit like that. And nowadays he's considered as one of the strongest Protoss players out there. C'mon be fair and give Rogue some time and don't overreact. It's just a stupid line, the rest is actually good. That's all. @Mizenahuer - dude, stop trolling. And dude, I thought you were a chick, change the icon  (nah, kidding  )Sorry for any missclicks and stuff, I cut of the tip of my finger and can't write properly as I use all my fingers to write and I keep forgetting TO NOT USE THAT ONE THAT HURTS AS HELL. Be carefull with knives. Glory to mankind! | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
Using a strong head line and strong words as conclusion might generate discussion, but also overshadows the rest of the article. Then on twitter, the author writes "I hope Rogue proves me wrong and continues to win in 2017." If that is the case, the headline and the conclusion could have been phrased as questions. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On January 13 2018 05:13 Penev wrote: Good to see Zealously defending the author, hopefully it doesn't fall on deaf ears. Zealously still defends Life so probably last guy I want defending me in sc2 | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 13 2018 06:34 Shellshock wrote: Zealously still defends Life so probably last guy I want defending me in sc2 Don't worry I would never defend a morally bankrupt washed-up foreigner | ||
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Penev
28440 Posts
On January 13 2018 06:34 Shellshock wrote: Zealously still defends Life so probably last guy I want defending me in sc2 we both know Life is GOAT | ||
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pvsnp
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
I love Rogue as a player, I'm a fanboy, I'm hardly objective but what pissed me off the most is how casually this writer pretty much directly calls ByuN and Dear for patchterran and patchtoss. I kind of liked the article, but at the same time not. Most of all I wonder what was the purpose, is this written as a big middle finger to Rogue, Dear and ByuN or is it some kind of hard-to-grasp satire. Either way its really sad when posters shit on pro players, especially so when measuring results in this very theoretical way. | ||
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Yo_Man
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On January 13 2018 08:58 Shuffleblade wrote: Either way its really sad when posters shit on pro players, especially so when measuring results in this very theoretical way. that's really the point being a media, carrying a label like TL, with great power comes great responsibility it's not *appropriate* to *feature* player bashing articles, being a critic is fine, but criticism is PR, it's not professional to bash or troll, imho | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On January 13 2018 07:16 MamiyaOtaru wrote: Miz the Skip Bayless of TL So we need a Stephen A? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On January 13 2018 06:19 [F_]aths wrote: The series against soo alone proves that rogue is no 'patch zerg'. Rogue had in my opinion the more difficult bracket to get to the finals. Soo played well and showed high skill, but Rogue outplayed him decisively. How well Rogue played against soO has no effect on whether he's a patchzerg or not. A patchplayer is someone who only has success on a specific patch/during a specific time. Rogue has to continue to win outside of that patch to prove he isn't a patchzerg | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
fantastic. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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pvsnp
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
On January 13 2018 16:43 Vari wrote: hahaha I just saw this OP as the scarlett series was happening and though, I guess we'll know soon how right the OP is. fantastic. I can tell you already, 0% right | ||
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