EPT15. Kelazhur
14. Special
13. Snute
12. Nerchio
11. Elazer
10. soO
9. Gumiho
8. Serral
7. Neeb
6. herO
5. TY
4. Dark
3. Stats
2. Rogue
1. Bonjwa
Road to BlizzCon 2017: The Great Power Rank - Page 2
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
15. Kelazhur 14. Special 13. Snute 12. Nerchio 11. Elazer 10. soO 9. Gumiho 8. Serral 7. Neeb 6. herO 5. TY 4. Dark 3. Stats 2. Rogue 1. Bonjwa | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2217 Posts
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Hadronsbecrazy
United Kingdom551 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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lastride
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 11 2017 03:48 Fango wrote: I predict herO and Gumiho will be ranked far higher than they should be. Also that Rogue will be ranked number 1 when it should be Inno herO I think has a good case for best Protoss atm, gvien his performance at the Super Tournament. Gumiho has been pretty unimpressive recently, I'd say he's probably the weakest Korean at Blizzcon. Rogue and Inno are very evenly matched, I could see either one as #1. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
16. Kelazhur 15. TRUE 14. Nerchio 13. Elazer 12. Snute 11 SpeCial 10. Serral 9. Neeb 8. TY 7. Stats 6. soO 5. GuMiho 4. Dark 3. herO 2. Rogue 1. INnoVation Cheering for Rogue, soO, Serral and Neeb especially =) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: herO I think has a good case for best Protoss atm, gvien his performance at the Super Tournament. Gumiho has been pretty unimpressive recently, I'd say he's probably the weakest Korean at Blizzcon. Rogue and Inno are very evenly matched, I could see either one as #1. I think soO is the weakest korean, he really didn't look impressive lately | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: herO I think has a good case for best Protoss atm, gvien his performance at the Super Tournament. Gumiho has been pretty unimpressive recently, I'd say he's probably the weakest Korean at Blizzcon. Rogue and Inno are very evenly matched, I could see either one as #1. herO's results have a clear pattern. Brilliance at quick weekenders (ST1/2, Shangai), but failure at the bigger/longer running events (he did poorly in Katowice, SSL premier, and only made GSL playoffs once). I don't expect anything special from him at blizzcon. And I know I'm bringing my bias up again, but I think Inno beats out Rogue. Yes Rogue beat him 3-2 at ST2, but he basically got 2 free maps against mech (I don't think any terran can beat Rogue with mech tbh). If Inno was smarter and played bio I think he edges out Rogue ever so slightly | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:44 Charoisaur wrote: I think soO is the weakest korean, he really didn't look impressive lately He did defeat Stats at the Super Tournament, and his ZvZ is always among the best. I have a hard time imagining him losing in the Ro16 at Blizzcon. Gumiho on the other hand I could see falling in the Ro16. On October 11 2017 04:49 Fango wrote: herO's results have a clear pattern. Brilliance at quick weekenders (ST1/2, Shangai), but failure at the bigger/longer running events (he did poorly in Katowice, SSL premier, and only made GSL playoffs once). I don't expect anything special from him at blizzcon. And I know I'm bringing my bias up again, but I think Inno beats out Rogue. Yes Rogue beat him 3-2 at ST2, but he basically got 2 free maps against mech (I don't think any terran can beat Rogue with mech tbh). If Inno was smarter and played bio I think he edges out Rogue ever so slightly Blizzcon is a short tournament, even though it does last slightly longer than a weekender. Agreed on the mech freewins, but Rogue's ZvBio is also insanely strong. I do tend to favor Inno slightly in bio TvZ though. That being said, with LBH + the current map pool favoring Zerg, I could understand an argument for Rogue at #1. I would say Dark's ZvBio is actually better than Rogue's, but Rogue has superior ZvP and ZvMech. Dark is the clear pick for #3 imo. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:56 pvsnp wrote: Blizzcon is a short tournament, even though it does last slightly longer than a weekender. Agreed on the mech freewins, but Rogue's ZvBio is also insanely strong. I do tend to favor Inno slightly in bio TvZ though. That being said, with LBH + the current map pool favoring Zerg, I could understand an argument for Rogue at #1. I would say Dark's ZvBio is actually better than Rogue's, but Rogue has superior ZvP and ZvMech. Dark is the clear pick for #3 imo. Blizzcon is technically a weekender, but it's still on a much larger/longer level than the others. What makes herO better in weekenders, is the fact that the players haven't spent days/weeks practicing specific builds to play against him (like they would in a starleague). But until you reach the ro4 at blizzcon, it's almost the same as GSL in terms of how long you get to prepare (better than GSL in terms of group stages, as each group is played over 2 days). And also, like GSL, every single match is top priority for the players involved (lilbow isn't in this one), and they will dedicate most (if not all) practice hours to it. And although we haven't seen Dark vs mech recently, I'd like to think it's decent. During his match in GSL against Inno he wasn't at all prepared for the comp. | ||
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PuddleZerg
United States82 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: herO I think has a good case for best Protoss atm, gvien his performance at the Super Tournament. Gumiho has been pretty unimpressive recently, I'd say he's probably the weakest Korean at Blizzcon. Rogue and Inno are very evenly matched, I could see either one as #1. You think Gumiho is below TY? Maybe TY has done something in some small online tournament lately, but as I don't pay attention to those, my last memory of him is failing to qualify for the super tournament. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
I just feel like TY has had an overall more solid year than Gumi, and neither of them did particularly well in the ST 2. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 11 2017 14:35 FrkFrJss wrote: I remember Gumi getting knocked out of the Ting Open by a combined score of 6-2 by Elazer. It's an online tournament, sure, but I doubt any top 8 Koreans wants to lose 6-2 to a foreigner. I just feel like TY has had an overall more solid year than Gumi, and neither of them did particularly well in the ST 2. And to add to that Elazer's ZvT is his worst match-up by a significant margin. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On October 11 2017 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote: And to add to that Elazer's ZvT is his worst match-up by a significant margin. Inno 2-0d him harshly yesterday | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On October 11 2017 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote: And to add to that Elazer's ZvT is his worst match-up by a significant margin. Actually, I'm not sure it is his worst matchup. Looking solely at his versus Korean results just in 2017, his vP and vT matchups are relatively similar, and his vZ matchup is his worst matchup by far. Of course, this is inflated by him beating up on Keen and aLive, and he's only played 44 maps total against Korean Terrans (online and offline). This lines up with his results against foreigners, with his vP and vT having similar (if inflated) results with his vZ being his worst matchup by a large margin. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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engesser1
264 Posts
16. Kelazhur (foreigner #7) 15. Nerchio (foreigner #6) 14. Snute (foreigner #5) 13. Elazer (foreigner #4) 12. Serral (foreigner #3) 11. SpeCial (foreigner #2) 10. Neeb (foreigner #1) 09. TRUE (tricky and fun to watch, but a little bit weak today) 08. Stats (greedy and hungry, can loss everything) 07. soO (the most stability, but nothing special, but he is lovely man) 06. herO (cheeky as always) 05. TY (mastermind, smooth and cool with everything) 04. INnoVation (standart as a usual morning, but robotic cold heart, engine oil and nuts) 03. GuMiho (mastermind, bag of builds) 02. Dark (mastermind of mastermind) 01. Rogue (mastermind of mastermind of mastermind, he beat 3-0 Maru) | ||
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