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On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed.
DuSt doesn't "pay" for practice.
The ORG has always tried to build talent.
Please, I beg, Please... Understand it was not amicable for DuSt & Bunny to continue. That does not point fault or assign fault.
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On April 25 2017 13:30 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed. DuSt doesn't "pay" for practice. The ORG has always tried to build talent. Please, I beg, Please... Understand it was not amicable for DuSt & Bunny to continue. That does not point fault or assign fault.
Yep dust is so OG how bout some chat logs from Winter with his experience with dust.
[2/4/2017 5:56:21 PM] Ricky Robidoux: why are you on 1FPro? they suck
[2/4/2017 5:58:26 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Thats harsh..
[2/4/2017 5:58:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: is it?
[2/4/2017 5:58:38 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Im in the team cause I like the atmosphere adn get paid to do so
[2/4/2017 5:58:39 PM] Ricky Robidoux: sorry
[2/4/2017 5:58:41 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I can rephrase
[2/4/2017 5:58:51 PM] Ricky Robidoux: ah well that's it then
[2/4/2017 5:59:03 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I just meant like, you're a Swedish zerg studying in japan
[2/4/2017 5:59:20 PM] Ricky Robidoux: playing on a usa team with 40 likes on twitter and no clue how to run a team
[2/4/2017 5:59:43 PM] Ricky Robidoux: and in comparison to our team, yeah, they suck the big one(edited)
[2/4/2017 6:31:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: But whatever they pay you now, and however good you actually are, by staying on 1FPro this is the best it's ever gonna get for you because they do nothing for you
or how bout this
Bidoux - 11/02/2016 your team is a joke asking you guys to ever merge with us was a huge mistake
Seigifried - 11/02/2016 again its not my team \plz quit talking to me about this im a student
Bidoux - 11/02/2016 if you're on rival then yes its your team
Seigifried - 11/02/2016 lol all i do is work/college
Bidoux - 11/02/2016 but if someone asked u what team ur onn you would say rival so what the fuck are u talking about?
Seigifried - 11/02/2016 cool idc
Bidoux - 11/02/2016 just frustrated with low level gm misfit nobodys talking shit whenever you feel like joining a real team, let me know
Or how bout the fact that my undisclosed source is starkiller a player who is currently on DuSt Gaming.
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On April 25 2017 13:48 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 13:30 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed. DuSt doesn't "pay" for practice. The ORG has always tried to build talent. Please, I beg, Please... Understand it was not amicable for DuSt & Bunny to continue. That does not point fault or assign fault. Yep dust is so OG how bout some chat logs from Winter with his experience with dust. [2/4/2017 5:56:21 PM] Ricky Robidoux: why are you on 1FPro? they suck [2/4/2017 5:58:26 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Thats harsh.. [2/4/2017 5:58:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: is it? [2/4/2017 5:58:38 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Im in the team cause I like the atmosphere adn get paid to do so [2/4/2017 5:58:39 PM] Ricky Robidoux: sorry [2/4/2017 5:58:41 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I can rephrase [2/4/2017 5:58:51 PM] Ricky Robidoux: ah well that's it then [2/4/2017 5:59:03 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I just meant like, you're a Swedish zerg studying in japan [2/4/2017 5:59:20 PM] Ricky Robidoux: playing on a usa team with 40 likes on twitter and no clue how to run a team [2/4/2017 5:59:43 PM] Ricky Robidoux: and in comparison to our team, yeah, they suck the big one(edited) [2/4/2017 6:31:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: But whatever they pay you now, and however good you actually are, by staying on 1FPro this is the best it's ever gonna get for you because they do nothing for you or how bout this Bidoux - 11/02/2016 your team is a joke asking you guys to ever merge with us was a huge mistake Seigifried - 11/02/2016 again its not my team \plz quit talking to me about this im a student Bidoux - 11/02/2016 if you're on rival then yes its your team Seigifried - 11/02/2016 lol all i do is work/college Bidoux - 11/02/2016 but if someone asked u what team ur onn you would say rival so what the fuck are u talking about? Seigifried - 11/02/2016 cool idc Bidoux - 11/02/2016 just frustrated with low level gm misfit nobodys talking shit whenever you feel like joining a real team, let me know Or how bout the fact that my undisclosed source is starkiller a player who is currently on DuSt Gaming.
May I get screen shots?
It is really easy to manipulate text.
I apologize for this request.
-Jeff
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On April 25 2017 13:52 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 13:48 SNSeigifried wrote:On April 25 2017 13:30 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed. DuSt doesn't "pay" for practice. The ORG has always tried to build talent. Please, I beg, Please... Understand it was not amicable for DuSt & Bunny to continue. That does not point fault or assign fault. Yep dust is so OG how bout some chat logs from Winter with his experience with dust. [2/4/2017 5:56:21 PM] Ricky Robidoux: why are you on 1FPro? they suck [2/4/2017 5:58:26 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Thats harsh.. [2/4/2017 5:58:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: is it? [2/4/2017 5:58:38 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Im in the team cause I like the atmosphere adn get paid to do so [2/4/2017 5:58:39 PM] Ricky Robidoux: sorry [2/4/2017 5:58:41 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I can rephrase [2/4/2017 5:58:51 PM] Ricky Robidoux: ah well that's it then [2/4/2017 5:59:03 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I just meant like, you're a Swedish zerg studying in japan [2/4/2017 5:59:20 PM] Ricky Robidoux: playing on a usa team with 40 likes on twitter and no clue how to run a team [2/4/2017 5:59:43 PM] Ricky Robidoux: and in comparison to our team, yeah, they suck the big one(edited) [2/4/2017 6:31:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: But whatever they pay you now, and however good you actually are, by staying on 1FPro this is the best it's ever gonna get for you because they do nothing for you or how bout this Bidoux - 11/02/2016 your team is a joke asking you guys to ever merge with us was a huge mistake Seigifried - 11/02/2016 again its not my team \plz quit talking to me about this im a student Bidoux - 11/02/2016 if you're on rival then yes its your team Seigifried - 11/02/2016 lol all i do is work/college Bidoux - 11/02/2016 but if someone asked u what team ur onn you would say rival so what the fuck are u talking about? Seigifried - 11/02/2016 cool idc Bidoux - 11/02/2016 just frustrated with low level gm misfit nobodys talking shit whenever you feel like joining a real team, let me know Or how bout the fact that my undisclosed source is starkiller a player who is currently on DuSt Gaming. May I get screen shots? It is really easy to manipulate text. I apologize for this request. -Jeff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254385183388729355/306293145694633984/unknown.png
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On April 25 2017 13:59 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 13:52 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:On April 25 2017 13:48 SNSeigifried wrote:On April 25 2017 13:30 Schnieder.sc2 wrote:On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed. DuSt doesn't "pay" for practice. The ORG has always tried to build talent. Please, I beg, Please... Understand it was not amicable for DuSt & Bunny to continue. That does not point fault or assign fault. Yep dust is so OG how bout some chat logs from Winter with his experience with dust. [2/4/2017 5:56:21 PM] Ricky Robidoux: why are you on 1FPro? they suck [2/4/2017 5:58:26 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Thats harsh.. [2/4/2017 5:58:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: is it? [2/4/2017 5:58:38 PM] Felix "Winter" Hegethorn: Im in the team cause I like the atmosphere adn get paid to do so [2/4/2017 5:58:39 PM] Ricky Robidoux: sorry [2/4/2017 5:58:41 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I can rephrase [2/4/2017 5:58:51 PM] Ricky Robidoux: ah well that's it then [2/4/2017 5:59:03 PM] Ricky Robidoux: I just meant like, you're a Swedish zerg studying in japan [2/4/2017 5:59:20 PM] Ricky Robidoux: playing on a usa team with 40 likes on twitter and no clue how to run a team [2/4/2017 5:59:43 PM] Ricky Robidoux: and in comparison to our team, yeah, they suck the big one(edited) [2/4/2017 6:31:35 PM] Ricky Robidoux: But whatever they pay you now, and however good you actually are, by staying on 1FPro this is the best it's ever gonna get for you because they do nothing for you or how bout this Bidoux - 11/02/2016 your team is a joke asking you guys to ever merge with us was a huge mistake Seigifried - 11/02/2016 again its not my team \plz quit talking to me about this im a student Bidoux - 11/02/2016 if you're on rival then yes its your team Seigifried - 11/02/2016 lol all i do is work/college Bidoux - 11/02/2016 but if someone asked u what team ur onn you would say rival so what the fuck are u talking about? Seigifried - 11/02/2016 cool idc Bidoux - 11/02/2016 just frustrated with low level gm misfit nobodys talking shit whenever you feel like joining a real team, let me know Or how bout the fact that my undisclosed source is starkiller a player who is currently on DuSt Gaming. May I get screen shots? It is really easy to manipulate text. I apologize for this request. -Jeff https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254385183388729355/306293145694633984/unknown.png
hmm really makes you think (^:
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The chatlogs might show aggressive headhunting and arrogance but it sais nothing about how they treat their players. So I don't understand what this has to do with the thread topic.
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On April 25 2017 15:40 fronkschnonk wrote:
The chatlogs might show aggressive headhunting and arrogance but it sais nothing about how they treat their players. So I don't understand what this has to do with the thread topic.
Some people just really enjoy a good witch hunt.
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On April 25 2017 15:40 fronkschnonk wrote:
The chatlogs might show aggressive headhunting and arrogance but it sais nothing about how they treat their players. So I don't understand what this has to do with the thread topic.
It shows his character. From reading those chat logs, I have zero faith that he is capable of being a decent human being let alone run a proper team. Aggressive headhunting is one thing, harassing players on other teams is another. You're quite right that it doesn't prove how he treats his own team members, but it doesn't bode well either.
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On April 25 2017 15:40 fronkschnonk wrote:
The chatlogs might show aggressive headhunting and arrogance but it sais nothing about how they treat their players. So I don't understand what this has to do with the thread topic.
You're not necessarily wrong. This is sort of its own story isn't it. What a horrible way for a team owner to behave...
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I'd guess they had a 6 months contract, Bunny wanted more $$$, they said no and here it ends.
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On April 25 2017 15:40 fronkschnonk wrote:
The chatlogs might show aggressive headhunting and arrogance but it sais nothing about how they treat their players. So I don't understand what this has to do with the thread topic.
That's true, but paired with stuff like Meomaika leaving due to alleged broken promises, Ricky going on record on the Dankshrine round table as having absolutely no idea what he's doing, it definitely doesn't look good.
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On April 26 2017 04:58 HornyHerring wrote:
I'd guess they had a 6 months contract, Bunny wanted more $$$, they said no and here it ends.
If you've been reading a few answers up, that is not what happened.
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I'll be the first to agree that Bidoux can be a dickhead, but when you're on his team he always has your back.
I can personally vouch for him fulfilling his promises to me. He sent me to numerous tournaments, that he paid for out of his own pocket, and I know for a fact he's done the same for others.
Hate him all you want, but he is a man of his word. DuSt has never done anything to screw over its players, and its never broken any promises or unfairly ended any contracts.
The reason Bunny was released is right there in the statement, sure its vague, but I see that as a service to everyone involved. Why air the dirty laundry?
You guys can use this thread to bring up your own hate towards Bidoux, because maybe he's made a rude comment towards you, but I personally think its ridiculous given the context.
And honestly, even if a player and an org don't end on perfect terms - that doesn't devalue the relationship they had, or the things they achieved while working together.
I am personally grateful to of had Bunny on the team, and I hope he finds a new home.
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The reason Bunny was released is right there in the statement, sure its vague, but I see that as a service to everyone involved. Why air the dirty laundry?
The thing is they kind of are airing dirty laundry by saying he didn't follow the contract without giving any real indication on what that violation could have been. It is especially odd because as Pengwin said earlier in the thread, Bunny has been doing a lot of stuff performance/streaming wise so its difficult to see where his violation could have happened.
If DuSt wanted to kick the guy without airing dirty laundry, just a generic "it didn't work out/both parties decided to depart" sort of statement would be much more appropriate then saying Bunny didn't follow his contract so we kicked him. That hurts his chances on future teams. Whether that is deserved or not depends on his contract violation but to say this type of statement is a service to everyone involved isn't really true. Definitely doesn't feel like a service to Bunny.
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On April 25 2017 13:23 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship. IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason. It's also quite a stupid reason. If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed.
I stand by my original statement.
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The case was discussed on Toast Talks yesterday with the DuSt owner himself -> Twitch timestamp
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On April 26 2017 16:50 [16thSq] Kuro wrote:The case was discussed on Toast Talks yesterday with the DuSt owner himself -> Twitch timestamp
Sounds entirely reasonable to me.
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Maybe the fine print in his contract said that he's supposed to take it up the bum after a while on the team, and now Bunny started to make a hassle out of it... :/
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Good for Bunny. From that talk show it sounds a terrible team to be in. Their reason to letting him go was he's too competitive and too focused on winning Blizzcon lol.
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