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ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
April 23 2017 14:20 GMT
#41
I don't blame people for jumping on the org first. I think its better that we immediately move to defend the player because the player always has less power than the org. Now the problem is how far people take it.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
April 23 2017 14:34 GMT
#42
Damn. DuSt.Bunny was the sickest sponsor tag / player handle combo I've ever seen.
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Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
April 23 2017 16:56 GMT
#43
As long as Bunny doesn't say anything dust is definitely in the right
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
April 23 2017 19:26 GMT
#44
On April 24 2017 01:56 Corvuuss wrote:
As long as Bunny doesn't say anything dust is definitely in the right

Also a dumb assumption. If Bunny doesn't say anything we can assume he didn't think starting drama would achieve anything good. It's easily possible for Dust to have treated him badly, but for him to think that going public with it would only hurt them and him, so he'll just move on.

Seriously, what is with these assumptions?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-24 04:47:38
April 23 2017 21:10 GMT
#45
Seriously, what is with these assumptions?

Well the whole situation leaves lots of room for assumptions.
But the old saying: "When you assume, you make an ass out of you and me" definitely applies here (like any news without proper context).
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
April 23 2017 21:26 GMT
#46
On April 24 2017 04:26 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 01:56 Corvuuss wrote:
As long as Bunny doesn't say anything dust is definitely in the right

Also a dumb assumption. If Bunny doesn't say anything we can assume he didn't think starting drama would achieve anything good. It's easily possible for Dust to have treated him badly, but for him to think that going public with it would only hurt them and him, so he'll just move on.

Seriously, what is with these assumptions?


Well I should have said they're in the right or Bunny can't do anything about it
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
April 23 2017 21:54 GMT
#47
Now that's closer. I'd even go further and say even if Bunny complains there's probably nothing he can do about it
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
SilentVoiceOfReason
Profile Joined April 2017
1 Post
April 24 2017 01:39 GMT
#48
Best wishes to Bunny and to team DuSt. The words below contain criticism, but rather than being hypocritical, I hope this criticism of mine is constructive. I would like to take this opportunity to respond to the heart issue of what people are saying on this thread, not because this thread or post requires it, but because of application to online commenting and e-sports courtesy in general.

Regardless of whether this is a minor problem or major; regardless of whether someone is in the wrong or neither party is upset; it is irresponsible for an employer to make public information about past/current/future employees' work status in a statement that does not at minimum contain the signatures / noticeable approval of both parties.

Was anyone curious about the Dust-Bunny situation? Probably. Was there a reasonable burden for public knowledge of this? Either 1) No, or 2) Because a contract term stipulating end-of-contract publicity or a confirmed document stating this as the express intent of both parties wasn't stated in the announcement as the reason for the announcement, no validity exists and therefore NO.

This being said, I doubt anyone intended any negative outcome from this thread. However, unfortunately as people, having good intentions doesn't prevent problems, and while nobody has a right to think of himself as justified, we could all do a better job of trying to envision the consequences of every action, word, and thought (myself included).

Many peoples' lives are ruined because somebody turns their private life into a public affair. Many friendships and relationships are ruined because somebody decides to use the weight of public or law against the other without keeping things quiet in the interests of both parties.

Public reputation is one of the most nebulous aspects of credibility. Don't think that reporters, lawyers, judges, netizens, or anyone who decides to influence another's life without any risk of consequence (this post included) is morally neutral. No; we are all responsible for every single assumption we make or cause to be made and should do things responsibly.

I'm not a lawyer, and I'm probably plenty guilty of having been careless with my words, but I can say from personal experience. Words, especially public, have the power to build people up or destroy people. Let's all work on being thoughtful and less careless.

Bunny, I hope you make Ro16.
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
April 24 2017 11:07 GMT
#49
another one bites the dust
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-24 13:33:33
April 24 2017 13:04 GMT
#50
ITT: an enormous set of assumptions about both parties based on a single twitter statement

On April 23 2017 06:11 Apoteosis wrote:
This smells like quantic or lygf, another scam that is so common in this unregulated e-sports scene.

It's despicable to throw around guesses like that just because stuff happened in the past, how the hell do you know that? Just because they released a Korean player?

Nobody has said anything more but DuSt management through a single tweet (please correct me if I missed something about the case), why would you start elaborate discussions with literally NOTHING to base them on. Just for the sake of talking in vain?

Sometimes when I read some posts (mostly here on TL) I get a strange vibe of hatred towards the game but love towards the players playing it and being so protective of them, and by players I mean Korean players - some people are just in love with Korean community and that's about it. If you seemingly mistreat a Korean player you're the enemy, there is no need for a full story.
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
April 24 2017 20:55 GMT
#51
If teams had a reputation for being honorable and honest, I don't think people would be talking harshly about the team. As is, people have little trust for foreign teams.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
April 24 2017 21:21 GMT
#52
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship.
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 24 2017 21:34 GMT
#53
I can understand that he doesnt want to waste his time training with inferior players. However, if it was part of the deal, I think Dust Gaming did the right thing.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 24 2017 21:41 GMT
#54
Don't ever change TL
Zerg for Life
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-24 22:03:34
April 24 2017 21:58 GMT
#55
On April 25 2017 06:34 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
I can understand that he doesnt want to waste his time training with inferior players. However, if it was part of the deal, I think Dust Gaming did the right thing.

Wow ok, I personally can't understand it at all, just let Koreans to have good practice to be better at the game and fuck all others
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 24 2017 22:51 GMT
#56
If part of the reason why they signed him is to train with their guys and he doesnt do it, it defeats the purpose.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
April 25 2017 00:57 GMT
#57
On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship.


IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 25 2017 02:57 GMT
#58
On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship.


IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason.


It's also quite a stupid reason.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Schnieder.sc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States71 Posts
April 25 2017 04:19 GMT
#59
Here is my input.

Many won't know me.
Many might.

I am controversial at best. Yet, I think anyone who has met me knows I am genuine.

DuSt. Well, DuSt. It was the first, and the last, organization to fulfill it's end of a contract. Many that read this post will never know what it means to be semi-pro or even attempt to make money from a game that alludes the majority of e sports fans... But guess what????

DuSt gaming is the most O.G. org you can find.
Try and find someone who would talk shit on it!
Did bunny?
Did I?
Did sWs when he left for a bigger Cs:Go team?
Did the (formerly alleged map hacker) Duck Complain?

Get a real statement of someone from DuSt complaining about the ORG before you attack it.
There is a reason DuSt has stood the test of time. The two owners (who are soluble) support the SHIT out of their players.
But this TRUST is built. You must earn it.
And "I tell you what" if DuSt is releasing bunny it is for EVERYONE'S benefit. The owners of DuSt have always looked out for everyone's benefit.

And if you have never had Ricky or Tom talk to you. Pay for your hotel. Pay for your food. Pay for your travel. Or console you after the worst lose of your CAREER please do not comment on DuSt.

I am biased. I have felt their warmth. Have never been lied to, and never will be.
If bunny and DuSt parted.
It is amicably.
It is best for everyone.

DuSt would never forget a player.
Look at me, sWs, Love. People this ORG has supported through thick and thin.
/End Rant

<3 DuST, Ricky, Tom, sWs, Sl33t, Amplified, Love, Pure, Jaybyrd, etc.
I am the albino Zerg @schniedersc2
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
April 25 2017 04:23 GMT
#60
On April 25 2017 11:57 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2017 09:57 zealotstim wrote:
On April 25 2017 06:21 SNSeigifried wrote:
I've been told from an undisclosed source that the reasoning for Bunny's termination was due to his lack of practicing with the other non-Koreans on the team which resulted in an argument and the ending of their relationship.


IF that's true, that's quite a legit reason.


It's also quite a stupid reason.



If it was in the contact, its a great reason. The team invested in this player to reap the rewards which include providing practice to the other teammates. seems justified. case closed.
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