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Road to BlizzCon #13 - Neeb - Global Finals 2016

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Road to BlizzCon #13 - Neeb - Global Finals 2016

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byshiroiusagi
October 25th, 2016 13:24 GMT
Photo Credit: ESL
Neeb
Alex Sunderhaft
Ting

The Inevitable Miracle

by Soularion


There are few things that embody aimless potential as well as the North American Starcraft scene. In previous years, it has been a source of rookies and upstarts who—while having some vague potential—never go anywhere with it. From State, to puCK, to JonSnow and Suppy and so many more, North America has failed to deliver on its promise to talent. It's been overshadowed by the mystery of China and the skill of Europe, and in prior years its WCS system has been overthrown by Koreans more than anywhere else. Even looking at the North American players who have risen to greatness—HuK, IdrA, Scarlett—they seem inconsistent even at their best, forever chasing form that might not come. When Neeb came into the scene, this destiny was already spelled out for him. He was an American terran in a sea of American terrans, and although he had a couple decent performances, they felt fleeting; for, why should Neeb succeed where so many others hadn't? His massive loss against Heart in 2014's third season of WCS only served to encapulate his fate. He was another nobody. Another player climbing a ladder to nowhere, seeming solid until the moment they played a Korean. Not even a top Korean. Just a Korean.

To think of an American defeating the Korean overlords of the region was unimaginable.
Then, the tides changed. In under four months, Neeb went from a terran nobody cared about to a protoss capable of eliminating StarDust from WCS and into retirement. It was as if Neeb changed his destiny alongside his race. Although it wasn't dramatic enough to render the future predictable by any means, it was clear that he wasn't just a nobody anymore. Neeb was headed someplace. Maybe a Scarlett, at best, we all said and laughed as he did well early in Legacy of the Void.

Then, he beat Polt and Hydra back to back to qualify for WCS Winter, and we all laughed a little less. Sure, he might've followed it up by choking and losing in the tournament proper, but it was an upset nobody could've imagined a year or two before. To think of an American terran defeating the Korean overlords of the region was unimaginable. To think of one doing so after swapping to protoss? Ridiculous. It wasn't surprising that Austin held Neeb's first finals as he showed marked improvement back on home soil. Just a couple months ago, he had lost to PtitDrogo 3-2. In that tournament, he demolished the French protoss. He lost to Hydra in the finals, but just as with the Frenchman, Neeb’s inflicted more than his fair share of vengeance on the Korean since. Since Austin, Neeb has beaten Hydra no fewer than five times, each one seeming more effortless than the last.

When Neeb defeats a player, he makes it seem inevitable, as if he could do it a million times over.
When a regular player defeats Hydra, it's often a match that takes a lot of effort or at the very least some clever cheeses. But for Neeb? It was effortless. Easy. Just another thing to do on his step towards the finals; so it's not much of a surprise to see him overcome the barrier held by his repeated failure in the latter stages of tournaments either. When he accomplished everything else, why stop there? Whereas some players such as Snute make wins look like a ridiculous combination of work ethic and style, Neeb makes wins look effortless. When Neeb defeats a player, he makes it seem inevitable, as if he could do it a million times over. He plays with just enough style to remain consistent, and just enough consistency to remain unpredictable. By all manner of opinion, Neeb is the ultimate foreigner. He harkens back to a NaNiwa or Stephano type figure with his endless improvement and unthinkable skill; but he hasn't made it just yet.



Winrate


72.87% vs. Terran
78.18% vs. Protoss
66.67% vs. Zerg

Rank


Circuit Standings
1

WCS Points


5900


The throne is hard to keep. One only has to look at where NaNiwa and Stephano are now to remember that, or look at ShoWTimE - the other foreigner to win a major championship this year - and his performances after his win in Tours. After KeSPA Cup, Neeb has earned the attention of everyone, from Koreans to his home country, and everywhere in between. He conquered the scene for one brief moment, brighter than any star or flame. He accomplished a miracle so grandiose in scope that most don't even dream of it. For that, he's been cursed with a pressure unlike anything he's even felt.

Looking back at WCS Winter, that was the first time people had expectations of Neeb; previously, everyone stared on him with interest but not necessarily hope. After his qualifier wins, he faltered. Hard. He nearly avoided humiliation at the hands of Kelazhur, and largely disappointed against Hydra. Since then, the only time the community's eyes have been entirely on him and nobody else is now. On one hand, it has blessed him with the fame and recognition that he dreamed of in years past. On the other hand, it's a nerve-wracking blessing. It comes with expectations. It comes with fear. Now that he's tasted success, that hunger he felt for months - if not years - feels all the more poignant. And, as so many others can attest to, all the closer. Blizzcon is Neeb's chance to fight fate. It's his chance to prove that he's more than a single miracle. It's his opportunity to become something great—if he were to repeat his KeSPA Cup form here at Blizzcon, he wouldn't be a great player. He would be a legend.






Writer: Soularion
Editor: munch
Photo Credit: Shayla, Helena Kristiansson, R1CH, ESL, DreamHack
Winrate Stats: Aligulac
Layout & Format: shiroiusagi
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dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
October 25 2016 13:31 GMT
#2
Neeb rank1! go to expert!
i love you
Ishmael
Profile Joined June 2016
92 Posts
October 25 2016 13:45 GMT
#3
" the mystery of China and the skill of Europe" -- it's funny how cultural narratives and topological language can flow up out of nothing, even in something as apparently unconcerned as a TL article. Good write up though go Neeb go
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
October 25 2016 13:50 GMT
#4
Neeb pls get away from those late game full tempest builds that makes you unbeatable but boring to watch
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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MarinePrince
Profile Joined October 2011
United States101 Posts
October 25 2016 14:19 GMT
#5
I disagree with the bit about Neeb being a terran nobody cared about. Back when he was a terran playing against Revival in the old WCS system, he was already revealing control and micro that few foreigners were capable of. The rest of the article is good, though. Looking forward to Blizzcon so much!
"Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character." - Albert Einstein
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 25 2016 14:43 GMT
#6
"To think of one doing so after swapping to protoss? Ridiculous."

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19267 Posts
October 25 2016 14:48 GMT
#7
Neeb wins KESPA cup and proleague disbands. I fear what will happen if he wins Blizzcon.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 25 2016 15:03 GMT
#8
On October 25 2016 23:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Neeb wins KESPA cup and proleague disbands. I fear what will happen if he wins Blizzcon.

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2016 15:05 GMT
#9
On October 25 2016 23:43 DJHelium wrote:
"To think of one doing so after swapping to protoss? Ridiculous."

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what if Byun had never swapped from protoss?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 19:03:57
October 25 2016 15:31 GMT
#10
On October 26 2016 00:05 Shellshock wrote:
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On October 25 2016 23:43 DJHelium wrote:
"To think of one doing so after swapping to protoss? Ridiculous."

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what if Byun had never swapped from protoss?


99% chance he would have retired long ago had he not switched to terran
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 25 2016 16:33 GMT
#11
For America!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
October 25 2016 16:36 GMT
#12
sad TL didnt keep Neeb's article as the final one. The best one should come last
nerpderp
Profile Joined February 2013
United States780 Posts
October 25 2016 17:31 GMT
#13
On October 25 2016 22:45 Ishmael wrote:
" the mystery of China and the skill of Europe" -- it's funny how cultural narratives and topological language can flow up out of nothing, even in something as apparently unconcerned as a TL article. Good write up though go Neeb go


I was just about to say the same thing. It just shows that sometimes stereotypes can permeate our thinking and writing without us even noticing.
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TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
October 25 2016 18:59 GMT
#14
Neeb wins KESPA cup and proleague disbands. I fear what will happen if he wins Blizzcon.


It has nothing to do with Neeb's kespa cup. It was already decision since long ago to disband proleague and teams in Korea.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
October 25 2016 19:11 GMT
#15
On October 26 2016 01:36 bypLy wrote:
sad TL didnt keep Neeb's article as the final one. The best one should come last

I agree. Which is why Dark will be last.
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NinaTV
Profile Joined July 2011
27 Posts
October 25 2016 19:23 GMT
#16
I clearly have 0 results... what a rude comment =/
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
October 25 2016 19:51 GMT
#17
Really excited to see if Neeblet can make it far after the KeSPA win. If he keeps up the tight harass defense and solid late game then I'm sure he will make a deep run.
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MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
October 25 2016 19:57 GMT
#18
One of the best foreign chances in Blizzcon. Really hope he makes it to at least the semi-finals.
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TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 21:56:09
October 25 2016 21:54 GMT
#19
sad TL didnt keep Neeb's article as the final one. The best one should come last


it's not TL's decision to make order. They are introducing players by each Circuit and Korean ranks in lowest to highest and Ptitdrogo was confirmed lately as blizzcon player after Polt cannot play in blizzcon.
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
October 26 2016 02:10 GMT
#20
great write up!
Big Red Dog!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4508 Posts
October 26 2016 02:33 GMT
#21
On October 26 2016 03:59 TheHumanLife wrote:
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Neeb wins KESPA cup and proleague disbands. I fear what will happen if he wins Blizzcon.


It has nothing to do with Neeb's kespa cup. It was already decision since long ago to disband proleague and teams in Korea.

I have no words..

except one.

sarcasm.
hi. big fan.
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
October 26 2016 03:04 GMT
#22
These have been awesomely written, and a timely salve for the SPL wounds. Great job on the write-up and GO NEEB!
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Yuk.on
Profile Joined April 2016
5 Posts
October 26 2016 13:29 GMT
#23
On October 26 2016 04:23 puCK wrote:
I clearly have 0 results... what a rude comment =/


I still love you <3, yeah the callouts of other NA players seems kind of silly.
eeZe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 00:46:11
October 27 2016 00:45 GMT
#24
On October 26 2016 04:23 puCK wrote:
I clearly have 0 results... what a rude comment =/


That's literally the first thing I thought when I read that. I see what the author was trying to imply but on behalf of the players, it's such an asshole thing to say.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
October 31 2016 18:29 GMT
#25
Met him at Dreamhack Austin. Super humble kid.

Hopefully he goes far. We need an American hero.
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