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Creager
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Germany1962 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 21:41:08
July 19 2016 21:40 GMT
#1
Apollo has posted this link on reddit and since I couldn't find it around here, yet, I thought I'd share it:

Original link: http://www.eslgaming.com/article/after-winning-tournament-i-get-more-hungry-interview-euronics-gaming-s-nerchio-3103

“After winning a tournament I get more hungry”: an interview with Euronics Gaming’s Nerchio
Hans Oelschlägel
Editor / Content Manager


After his amazing performance at DreamHack Valencia, Euronics Gaming’s Artur “Nerchio” Bloch is setting his sights on Intel Extreme Masters Shanghai. We sat down with the freshly crowned champion to discuss his recent play, budding rivalries and his expectations ahead of Shanghai.


ESL: Congratulations on winning DreamHack Valencia. How relieved are you to finally win a tournament after having had so many high place finishes in LotV.

Artur ‘Nerchio’ Bloch: I certainly wasn't disappointed with my results so far in LotV because my goal in Starcraft II was always to be consistent. I think it's better to be at the top all the time which means consistently getting top eight and higher results as opposed to winning a tournament once and then being remembered forever as a one-time champion. Having said that, being able to win championships is also an important characteristic if you truly want to be considered the best.


ESL: A lot of people have been saying that this tournament win was a long time coming. Your results recently are resembling those of 2012, what has changed in the last nine months?

Nerchio: I was finishing my studies during Heart of the Swarm and since my motivation to play the game was lower at that point I just didn't practice enough to deliver good results. When Legacy of the Void came out I realised that I like the game much more than before and I could focus on it full time.
I was thinking about continuing my studies but there were too many tournaments to attend which would interfere with the courses. So these days I only focus on StarCraft II which obviously helps a lot. I can practice a lot more and also I believe that the meta game suits me much better since Zerg was always about defending but now we also have more aggressive options.


ESL: What was your preparation coming into the tournament? How much did the recent Queen change impact your tournament?

Nerchio: Preparing for Dreamhack Valencia was really tricky because only a few days before the tournament I got the information that it will be played on the new maps. As you probably know, I usually focus on laddering, but the problem was that the season with the new maps only went live the day before the tournament. I had to change up my preparation from what I usually do and went for a couple of custom games against each race on each map, as well as studying the maps alone and thinking how the games might play out.
I think the Queen change helped the most against Terran so maybe I had an easier time in the finals than I normally would have, but overall it was far from a deciding factor in my success.


ESL: You are pretty safe to qualifying for the Global Playoffs at the end of the year. How do you think you will shape up against the best Korean players? A lot of the community do not believe the Europeans and North Americans can even put up a fight.

Nerchio: I am a little bit sad that most of the community doesn't really believe in the foreigners and still think that we are playing on a low level compared to Koreans, so I have to disagree obviously. It's hard to predict how I am going to do against Korean players at Blizzcon but I can assure that I am going to put up a good fight. I think most of the foreign players are practicing more and our skill level is higher than ever before so we can do much better against Koreans.


ESL: How are you feeling going into Intel Extreme Masters Shanghai? Does winning Valencia give you more confidence or does it create added pressure to do well?

Nerchio: It adds a little bit more pressure because having a terrible result after winning a tournament would feel very disappointing. I also feel that after winning a tournament I get more hungry for even more championships so it's definitely going to be hard to satisfy that. But I believe I can win again. I need to break my curse of bad results in Asia because I've been there like three times already and the best result I had was top eight as far as I remember.


ESL: Do you have any thoughts on this budding rivalry with Showtime and the prospect of playing against each other again in the grand finals in Shanghai?

Nerchio: I consider Showtime to be the best Protoss player in the foreign scene, so playing against him is always a challenge I look forward to. We both had great wins and tough losses against each other so I think there is quite a bit of story to this rivalry. Of course I would prefer to meet in the grand finals every time but it's not always possible.
I think that it is very likely that we meet in the grand finals in Shanghai as long as I can fix my ZvZ this week.


ESL: Nobody knows what really to expect from an opponent like Cyan, how are you approaching this matchup? Are you concerned that you could be surprised, considering the Chinese style of Protoss play typically is aggressive?

Nerchio: I can't exactly describe how I am going to prepare for Cyan in case he is reading this interview but I am definitely not afraid of aggression from Protoss players because we already had to learn how to defend all types of aggression in Europe.
I think that it's easier to play against players that you know are not the strongest at macro game because you can always cut back on your economy a little bit and still be good in case you go into a macro game. I think it's hard to be surprised in a Bo5. Bo3 it can happen but anything above that is really tough for the underdog.


ESL: What are your thoughts on ZvT at the moment? On stage right before playing Marinelord, you said it's your best matchup. A lot of Terran players in Europe/NA say it's unwinnable but Terrans are dominating in Korea? What is your stance?

Nerchio: It's really hard to describe the match-up at the moment. I think in Europe, Terrans are definitely struggling but I think there is plenty of timings that Terran can do that are really hard to stop. The problem for them right now is that I have the match-up almost figured out, so it's hard to surprise me. I am confident at all stages in the game and I know what to do depending on what happens in the game. It goes back to my Wings of Liberty days where I had the same feeling in most of the match-ups.


ESL: Being a player who has been capable to compete with top level Koreans over the years, what is your opinion on the WCS 2016 changes?

Nerchio: I definitely like the changes but I believe a little bit more competition against Koreans would be healthier for the scene. I think foreigners in the past didn't have a chance to spread their wings and we were starved before we could fight back. I think giving us more breathing room to improve our skill definitely helped the foreign scene and I consider foreigners to be better at the game than they ever were before.


ESL: With the year drawing to a close already, what are your goals for the remains of 2016? Especially in Global Playoffs.

Nerchio: I want to stay consistent for the rest of the year, so getting results like top eight and higher would be satisfying. But I will also try to win another championship if I can. Of course I will be trying to win Blizzcon, but I do better when I consider myself to be the underdog so I avoid hyping myself too much. I hope my result at Global Playoffs will be a nice surprise.


ESL: Recently, both Solar and Byun spoke about how impressed they were with Snute. Byun went on to make a comment about you as well. What are your thoughts about his comment?

Nerchio: I am glad to hear that Koreans are starting to respect the skill of foreigners because it didn't happen very often in the past. On the other hand, I don't like to be hyped so much because then there is a lot of pressure when you play competitive matches against Koreans and everybody is expecting you to perform well.


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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
July 19 2016 23:46 GMT
#2
Great article! Nerchio's answers are solid
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 20 2016 00:18 GMT
#3
Nice, was hoping for a good interview. The one on stage sounded so bland trying to maintain a simple interview. Great results so far, hoping for more.
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Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
July 20 2016 00:33 GMT
#4
Nice i hope more sc2!!! Go foreigners
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polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
July 20 2016 00:36 GMT
#5
Nice interview, hope to see more solid performances from Nerchio
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
July 20 2016 01:08 GMT
#6
Hey guys out of respect for intellectual property, can we just quote a few questions/answers and link to the full article next time? Or TLers can you at least visit the original source?
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
July 20 2016 01:39 GMT
#7
So I guess ESL decided not to broadcast on TV? Oh well.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
July 20 2016 04:36 GMT
#8
On July 20 2016 10:08 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Hey guys out of respect for intellectual property, can we just quote a few questions/answers and link to the full article next time? Or TLers can you at least visit the original source?


I second this. Let's not rob ESL of a page-view for this great interview.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
July 20 2016 08:37 GMT
#9
Link to original source is provided and I included the author, although I can see the problem with this. Sorry, didn't want to upset people
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 20 2016 08:43 GMT
#10
I'm sorry Nerchio but I'd be willing to bet on foreigners taking less than 3 maps from Koreans at BlizzCon
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evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
July 20 2016 09:03 GMT
#11
On July 20 2016 17:43 OtherWorld wrote:
I'm sorry Nerchio but I'd be willing to bet on foreigners taking less than 3 maps from Koreans at BlizzCon


^ this

they will get stomped right back to charityland and i will enjoy every second of it.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
July 20 2016 09:45 GMT
#12
On July 20 2016 17:43 OtherWorld wrote:
I'm sorry Nerchio but I'd be willing to bet on foreigners taking less than 3 maps from Koreans at BlizzCon

It is actually really hard to say without any evidence as I don't even remember when was last time foreigner met Korean in important tourney. I have at least some confidence in Nerchio, Snute, ShowTime and Neeb that they will be able to steal a couple of games from Koreans. The rest of foreigners however... it will be hard.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
July 20 2016 10:06 GMT
#13
On July 20 2016 17:43 OtherWorld wrote:
I'm sorry Nerchio but I'd be willing to bet on foreigners taking less than 3 maps from Koreans at BlizzCon

3 maps for all foreigners? So wrong :D
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evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
July 20 2016 10:09 GMT
#14
On July 20 2016 19:06 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 17:43 OtherWorld wrote:
I'm sorry Nerchio but I'd be willing to bet on foreigners taking less than 3 maps from Koreans at BlizzCon

3 maps for all foreigners? So wrong :D



so delusional :D
TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
July 20 2016 10:30 GMT
#15
All hail our mighty God Arthur Nerchio
ProgamerOn October 26 2013 00:10 Nerchio wrote: Shoutout to Targa, best zerg in europe || http://twitter.com/#!/TargA01
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 20 2016 10:38 GMT
#16
Nice interview and solid answers.

I think the foreigners will deliver a solid performance in Blizzcon as well. And I do agree that next year a bit more KR/foreigner competition would be healthy.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
July 20 2016 11:17 GMT
#17
Foreigners will do fine, plus statistically even if all koreans were favorite against their counterpart (even tho they are not) we should have at least 2 foreigners and more advancing.
Nice interview
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#18
On July 20 2016 20:17 Poopi wrote:
Foreigners will do fine, plus statistically even if all koreans were favorite against their counterpart (even tho they are not) we should have at least 2 foreigners and more advancing.

What statistics did you use to get that result?
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
July 20 2016 12:11 GMT
#19
                  Top 2      1er       2e       3e       4e    
---------------------------------------------------------------
Classic 69.87% 39.78% 30.09% 17.30% 12.83%
Snute 49.57% 23.30% 26.27% 25.91% 24.52%
Polt 48.12% 23.22% 24.90% 26.51% 25.37%
Patience 32.44% 13.70% 18.74% 30.28% 37.28%

Estimé par Aligulac. Modifier.

1 foreigner

                     1        2        3        4    
-----------------------------------------------------
Hydra 35.78% 27.72% 21.39% 15.11%
Nerchio 30.56% 28.00% 23.43% 18.02%
Cure 20.43% 24.67% 27.76% 27.14%
Solar 13.23% 19.61% 27.43% 39.73%

Estimé par Aligulac. Modifier.

2 foreigners

                      1        2        3        4    
------------------------------------------------------
Stats 33.18% 27.15% 22.40% 17.27%
Neeb 29.95% 27.34% 23.59% 19.12%
TY 21.46% 24.47% 26.69% 27.37%
ShoWTimE 15.41% 21.04% 27.32% 36.24%

Estimé par Aligulac. Modifier.

1 foreigner

                       1        2        3        4    
-------------------------------------------------------
Dark 42.16% 27.22% 18.66% 11.95%
Zest 30.21% 31.19% 24.12% 14.48%
Elazer 16.84% 23.02% 27.78% 32.37%
PtitDrogo 10.79% 18.57% 29.44% 41.20%

Estimé par Aligulac. Modifier.

0 foreigner

These are not the final standing, and the Global Playoff will be Dual Tournament, which I guess is GSL format, plus I don't know how the groups will be drawn, but even taking into account the fact that foreign players have inflated ELO on aligulac, at least 2 qualifying seems reasonable.
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 20 2016 12:15 GMT
#20
aligulac overestimates foreign skill a lot though. In your examples, Nerchio over Cure and Neeb over TY seem pretty ambitious to me.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
July 20 2016 12:20 GMT
#21
TY did pretty bad at the first Dreamhack of LotV and decently bad online against foreigners.
Plus I don't see Nerchio lose against Cure, maybe Maru but he'll have troubles qualifying if he doesn't perform this season.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 13:18:53
July 20 2016 13:04 GMT
#22
On July 20 2016 21:20 Poopi wrote:
TY did pretty bad at the first Dreamhack of LotV and decently bad online against foreigners.
Plus I don't see Nerchio lose against Cure, maybe Maru but he'll have troubles qualifying if he doesn't perform this season.

Online & the first DH of LotV don't really say much at this point, do they? I mean when the first DH in LotV happened Zerg was the dominant race in Korea and adepts were in their pre-patch state. And by online results Neeb and ByuN are the best players in the world.

Not so sure about Cure, I think he can beat any Zerg on a good day and lose to any Zerg on a bad day. By which I mean literally any pro Zerg.

That said, anyone expecting foreigners to get shut out at Blizzcon is likely in for a huge disappointment.
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JensWalker
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada20 Posts
July 20 2016 15:03 GMT
#23
What's going on, this interview actually has a positive Vibe~~ Good stuff
herO
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 15:53:16
July 20 2016 15:05 GMT
#24
A group where Dark and Zest are together, and Stats and TY are together.... I think it's safe to say aligulacs calculations for that group are wrong.......
But I can see foreigners taking a spot or two for sure. It'll be interesting, and I do think foreigners are doing great right now. The "foreign" Koreans are even having a real hard time getting results.

Also great replies by Nerchio. Glad to see him do well, he's deserved it for a while.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 15:36:49
July 20 2016 15:07 GMT
#25
Yeah, of course foreigners are still outsiders, by a decent margin, but with bo3 there is a decent chance that they'll do well. (3 qualifying would be "well" for me)
ByuN is very good and he hasn't disappointed vs foreigners afaik so if he qualifies for Blizzcon, I'll bet on him having the best results vs foreigners.
Neeb seems like Nerchio, you always expect him to crush a tourney but then he surprinsingly doesn't, he might have some luck in the next DH. He can do well against 5-8 seeds from Korea I guess.
Edit: as for TY what I meant is that some koreans don't export well/play well outside of Korea, and I'm pretty sure TY is one of these koreans, so he could very well crush the opposition or be upset.
WriterMaru
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
July 20 2016 15:18 GMT
#26
Lets not forget that both polt and Hydra have preformed decently at blizzcon in the past, of course their form may be way off from last year but it is interesting to note that the foreign scene has basically surpassed the level of these formerly dangerous blizzcon attendees.

(I wouldn't say polt and hydra are even in that large of a slump, hydra can't seem to beat neeb right now but is still dangerous and polt vs showtime was razor close).

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 20 2016 16:21 GMT
#27
On July 20 2016 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote:
aligulac overestimates foreign skill a lot though. In your examples, Nerchio over Cure and Neeb over TY seem pretty ambitious to me.

It was hard enough to compare cross region before with aligulac and it is even less accurate now with the region lock.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
July 20 2016 18:24 GMT
#28
On July 20 2016 21:20 Poopi wrote:
Plus I don't see Nerchio lose against Cure

lol.
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 23:12:15
July 20 2016 23:04 GMT
#29
Nerchio is showing a strong zerg play that is flexible and reliable. The buff to spore and queen only made it that much easier for him. Plus I think him and Dark figured out ZvT a long time ago, but not all pro zergs have caught up. Given time, I think ZvT didn't need the spore/queen change because I think more zergs would have started figuring out terran timings.

Regardless of the change though, ZvT in LotV was definitely a paradigm shift that few zergs adapted too.

I can't wait to see Nerchio run through a few Koreans Terrans!

edit:
On July 20 2016 17:37 Creager wrote:
Link to original source is provided and I included the author, although I can see the problem with this. Sorry, didn't want to upset people
Hey, I'm not upset. No need to apologize. I'm sure you haven't broken any TL rules. Its just out of courtesy to great content and creators.

Not to derail the thread......

Go Nerchio kick some terran butt!! Watch out for any sneaky Protoss with their adept shenanigans along the way! And lastly, if you have to eliminate another zerg, I truly hope we see some next level ling/bling chase.

second edit: Oh and I hope you face only Koreans in the Global Playoffs.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 01:57:04
July 21 2016 01:52 GMT
#30
Frankly, I wouldn't read too much into what happens in Blizzcon:

(a) It's a weekend tournament, which foreigners are more accustomed to playing than KeSPA Koreans (more so after the region lock, shutting Koreans out from DH, IEM, etc.)

(b) There's arguably a different skillset for weekend tournaments and preparation-based tournaments.
- Intuitive players like Taeja, sOs and Maru excel well in the former (Maru - as evidenced by his Proleague all-kill form), whilst more methodical players like Inno, Dark and Stats excel in the latter, and then there's those who can excel in both like Zest and Life.

(c) Also, arguably, the real edge of Koreans come from the preparation format (that's where the intensive team-house training and support system kicks in)

That said, I predict the Koreans kicking the ass of most of the foreigners due to their superior mechanical skills, save for perhaps Nerchio, Neeb, Polt and Hydra putting on some credible resistance.

But I think if foreigners get pass the first hurdle of Koreans, they stand a good chance to proceed further (the deeper they go, the less time Koreans have to prepare, recover and adapt).
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 21 2016 02:40 GMT
#31
I think 2 foreigners make it to playoffs, maybe 3 depending on groups at Blizzcon.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 22 2016 21:58 GMT
#32
I'm going to stay three just because I believe....
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
July 22 2016 22:06 GMT
#33
Well I think Snute and Nerchio are definite contenders. If neeb makes it to Blizzcon, I can see him going deep.

Not sure if there are any other foreign contenders at the moment, so I'm going to agree with 3.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2223 Posts
July 25 2016 06:52 GMT
#34
Nice interview, thanks
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