EPTOn May 17 2016 01:46 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Sen, Lilbow, ShoWTimE. In 4 years of SC2
Sen, Lilbow, ShoWTimE. In 4 years of SC2
Stephano - WCS Europe
ShoWTimE Wins DH Tours - Page 6
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
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Elentos
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He only counted the past 4 years (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016). Stephano was 2012 | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On May 19 2016 20:59 thecrazymunchkin wrote: I'd like to point out that since no one on TL updates the VOD thread anymore, all arguments about being spoilt looking for VODs are moot Not really. Looking through the threads there's still a number of people who ask if the vods are up or where to find them, so even if the vod thread isn't updated anymore it does not mean that people don't still come looking for vod resources. For myself, I usually refresh the liquipedia page to see who won, but I honestly don't know what's so wrong about writing one little sentence that does not spoil the winner while still congratulating him/her. | ||
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
On May 19 2016 15:02 Cyro wrote: How do you suggest people watch the games if they shouldn't go to TL or reddit or the dreamhack site and they shouldn't check the dreamhack VOD's page on twitch? It's not like people can just open a media player and watch the dreamhack finals like we can and do with a GOT episode. sc2links.com It took me 2 minutes to find a site which provides spoiler-free links to VODs. As if someone wanted to find a solution without bothering others and making demands for the world to adjust to his preferences, he would easily manage to do it. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On May 20 2016 02:08 Ingvar wrote: sc2links.com It took me 2 minutes to find a site which provides spoiler-free links to VODs. As if someone wanted to find a solution without bothering others and making demands for the world to adjust to his preferences, he would easily manage to do it. Serves ads & blocks viewers w/ adblocking software. I block most ads with a whitelist for security reasons, as should most internet users. A random site saying "hey turn off adblocks or you can't see our content" is a huge red flag - http://www.extremetech.com/internet/220696-forbes-forces-readers-to-turn-off-ad-blockers-promptly-serves-malware You're trying pretty hard to be condescending and hostile here when there is still no decent solution posted. Using google search i'm getting the twitch page high on results, which has the spoilers listed earlier. Some other stuff with spoilers, but now that i've seen the games i can find http://sc2casts.com/event845-2016-DreamHack-Austin via www.reddit.com/r/spoilerfreeSC. That actually took a considerable amount of time and effort and came with risk of spoiling the games while looking for a good spoiler free source. I see why some people want changes, we used to have great spoiler free resources and they've just gradually disappeared over time. TL used to provide this in several ways but they no longer do. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On May 19 2016 14:10 showstealer1829 wrote: It's a stupid argument, if you want to watch the VoD's don't come on TL. You don't see people bitching about the Superbowl being spoiled. Stop your goddamn whining and take some responsibility in your chocies This is an even more stupid argument. Because the technology of today makes it possible to make both sides happy, so your arguing again is just denying other ppls wishes because you think yours are more important and others shouldn't have none at all. Avoiding TL is vital to find some VODs. Titles not being displayed in a manner that does not spoil would be possible for those who don't want to get spoilered. So the only argument that is stupid is the one that denies an option when both is possible at the same time. But I knew a few don't comprehend. I am just not sure if it is ignorence or a cognitive problem for some that don't seem to understand this. On May 19 2016 17:25 Swisslink wrote: Well, why I am against it? Mainly because I still live in my utopia that eSports might, at one point, become a publicly recognized sport. And as soon as that's the case, the entire spoiler discussion is useless, because you'd get spoilt anyway. And yes, there might be some people who record games. But I doubt these people would ever go to a Basketball/Football forum to complain about spoilers in titles after the match. Simply because they are an insanely small minority and they should know that. Otherwise things like headlines with result spoilers would not be a thing. But they are. You can keep comparing basketball/football to esport even 100x times it doesn't make it the same. Not because it might not get as big as basketball or whatever, the difference is that the main platform which transfers the sport is not a static one like TV, where the content cannot adapt to the viewer, but it is the internet. And managing the content of a internet platform around a user is actually pretty doable, since for instance all social media sites do that for a living. And all the adworks. Just the other way around, they go deep on analyzing your online behavior and show what fits you. So its pretty obvous the solution to please EVERY SIDE is here. The problem is that there are ppl who think they don't need it so no other can have it. Its funny how many ppl still think black/white these days when technology can solve all our problems. Only because it wasn't possible in the past, when news were all over TV all the time and you cannot avoid it doesn't mean you cannot change things in the future. There are a lot of technologies evolved from that. Like a Forum or mail or websites like TL, providing replays and vods and databases... All these things developed from a need for these things and ppl willing to create them On May 20 2016 02:08 Ingvar wrote: sc2links.com It took me 2 minutes to find a site which provides spoiler-free links to VODs. As if someone wanted to find a solution without bothering others and making demands for the world to adjust to his preferences, he would easily manage to do it. I tried it, but didn't find the very first tournament I searched (Crossfinals). Also sometimes it is nice to watch the VODs and read the thread along with it. If there were no spoilers at the main page, you could watch the games with some excitement and still are not spoilered even though you are in the LR thread Also I had to activate Adblock and Scriptblog which is usually a bad sign. It is really easy to get infected by ads these days | ||
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