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EmKey
Korea (South)631 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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CometNine
New Zealand87 Posts
What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? If you want spoiler free stuff - either bookmark the Tournaments Sub-forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/ or keep yourself off TL until you've caught up on the VODs via twitch or something of the sort. This discussion happened a few months ago too where one of the Administrators (think it was lichter or wax) clarified their stance on reporting event winners and the spoiler option is no longer available afaik. Also - this discussion should be in website feedback not in this thread.. Anyway back on topic - after watching the first game I thought Nerchio was going to 4-0 it. Showtime did well to pull it back. Grats to him, well deserved. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On May 17 2016 09:31 CometNine wrote: I'm on the other side of the camp in the sense that I come to TL to read news - Latest News. What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? If you want spoiler free stuff - either bookmark the Tournaments Sub-forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/ or keep yourself off TL until you've caught up on the VODs via twitch or something of the sort. This discussion happened a few months ago too where one of the Administrators (think it was lichter or wax) clarified their stance on reporting event winners and the spoiler option is no longer available afaik. Also - this discussion should be in website feedback not in this thread.. Anyway back on topic - after watching the first game I thought Nerchio was going to 4-0 it. Showtime did well to pull it back. Grats to him, well deserved. The problem is that it isn't a dedicated news site at all. This isn't like an online newspaper but more of a hub to get information on tournaments, watch live games, and also to get news. So, yeah, people can just watch twitch vods, but the people who post these thread can just pull a Reddit and say "Congratulations to the winner of Dreamhack Tours" or something. But yeah, congrats to showtime! I was fairly surprised at how well he did...granted with an easier (sort of) bracket, but also because I hadn't pegged him as someone who went through a bracket like this. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
On May 17 2016 09:31 CometNine wrote: I'm on the other side of the camp in the sense that I come to TL to read news - Latest News. What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? If you want spoiler free stuff - either bookmark the Tournaments Sub-forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/ or keep yourself off TL until you've caught up on the VODs via twitch or something of the sort. This discussion happened a few months ago too where one of the Administrators (think it was lichter or wax) clarified their stance on reporting event winners and the spoiler option is no longer available afaik. Also - this discussion should be in website feedback not in this thread.. Anyway back on topic - after watching the first game I thought Nerchio was going to 4-0 it. Showtime did well to pull it back. Grats to him, well deserved. "What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date?" I don't understand what you mean. the site will still be up to date you just have to open the thread to read who won the tournament. Personally I don't care about this but I really don't see the downside of keeping the title spoiler-free. People who want to know who won can open the thread and read it and people who want to avoid spoilers can just not open on the thread. | ||
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ANGELIAS1234
United States46 Posts
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stefan16
103 Posts
On May 17 2016 12:30 ANGELIAS1234 wrote: pfff what a joke only reason he won was they was no Koreans in it it's good for business though. How much viewers were on the DH final? above 15k? How many viewers back then in GSL final? A bit above 5k? | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On May 17 2016 15:20 stefan16 wrote: it's good for business though. How much viewers were on the DH final? above 15k? How many viewers back then in GSL final? A bit above 5k? Not sure about the final but there was 25k or so in main stream during some games I was watching I think. I'm sure GSL gets more than 5k too.. :/ | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 17 2016 09:31 CometNine wrote: I'm on the other side of the camp in the sense that I come to TL to read news - Latest News. What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? If you want spoiler free stuff - either bookmark the Tournaments Sub-forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/ or keep yourself off TL until you've caught up on the VODs via twitch or something of the sort. This discussion happened a few months ago too where one of the Administrators (think it was lichter or wax) clarified their stance on reporting event winners and the spoiler option is no longer available afaik. Also - this discussion should be in website feedback not in this thread.. Anyway back on topic - after watching the first game I thought Nerchio was going to 4-0 it. Showtime did well to pull it back. Grats to him, well deserved. OH ! YES ! IT IS NOT THAT HARD ! Bookmark the tournnament page ! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tB3MIVo.jpg) So now yeah i donn't understand why SPL is not spoiled. Match 1 ? CJ vs SKT why match1 ? Now don't go to TL yes ok. So that's what i do. I go less and less on TL because i can't watch everything but even sc2cast DOESN'T HAVE THE VODS UPLOADED ! Andd you got yourselft a question. When was the last time you opened the subforum named : "Website feedback" ? Because no one ever goes there | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On May 17 2016 01:44 Elentos wrote: Almost no non-Koreans have won something this big in the past few years though. Congrats to him on the win and the prizepool, but why are we acting like this is some sort of major? This tournament at a practice squad tournament, unless I'm confused... | ||
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stardog
556 Posts
On May 17 2016 16:11 NoobSkills wrote: Congrats to him on the win and the prizepool, but why are we acting like this is some sort of major? This tournament at a practice squad tournament, unless I'm confused... To be fair, some trophies of the past generally considered to be major achievements were won easier than this one. Especially Nerchio's road was noteworthy and Showtime, well, at least he had to beat Nerchio. So while it wasn't anything close to the toughest major tournaments, it definitely wasn't the weakest one either. It isn't overhyped too, Lilbow's win last season got much more hype. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On May 17 2016 15:45 Phredxor wrote: Not sure about the final but there was 25k or so in main stream during some games I was watching I think. I'm sure GSL gets more than 5k too.. :/ GSL is also in a really bad timeslot which is the most important thing for the typical WCS enjoyer | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On May 17 2016 15:20 stefan16 wrote: it's good for business though. How much viewers were on the DH final? above 15k? How many viewers back then in GSL final? A bit above 5k? Lol, how did you guess those numbers? I think you underestimate the sc2 viewership. DH Final hat almost 50k viewers. http://www.fuzic.nl/events/9588-wcs-circuit-championship/ GSL Final had over 35k. http://www.fuzic.nl/events/9324-gsl-code-s/ Great numbers considering the timeslot imo. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On May 17 2016 09:31 CometNine wrote: I'm on the other side of the camp in the sense that I come to TL to read news - Latest News. What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? But nothing would change for you and me, we would still get the latest news just as fast, since the spoiler option would be optional. If a spoiler option is no longer possible on the website, the titles can just be adjusted. Again it would not slow down the news at all, nothing would change. | ||
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stefan16
103 Posts
On May 17 2016 19:54 Musicus wrote: Lol, how did you guess those numbers? I think you underestimate the sc2 viewership. DH Final hat almost 50k viewers. http://www.fuzic.nl/events/9588-wcs-circuit-championship/ GSL Final had over 35k. http://www.fuzic.nl/events/9324-gsl-code-s/ Great numbers considering the timeslot imo. i watched some of the games and those are the numbers that I remembered. Gotta admit that I didnt watch finals tho.. Still.. the peak, 29k and 35k is closer than I thought it would be Back to no-korean-in-tournament argument, I think foreigners always have decent chance to win when everything is new and no one figured out everything yet. However, once time passes and Koreans have chance to hone their skills and figure out every play/map/strategy, they stomp over foreigners. So if Bliz wants foreigners to always have a shot, no need to create 2 separate leagues. Simply release "balance update" every few months that will topple every existing strategies and make players scratch their heads for new one will do the trick. That is.. until everyone decides they have enough and start playing BW  | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On May 17 2016 19:56 Musicus wrote: But nothing would change for you and me, we would still get the latest news just as fast, since the spoiler option would be optional. If a spoiler option is no longer possible on the website, the titles can just be adjusted. Again it would not slow down the news at all, nothing would change. Yeah, there's basically no difference between "ShoWTimE Wins Dreamhack Tours" and "Dreamhack Tours Concluded" from a news standpoint, you will click on both anyway if you want the results. But if you don't want the result spoiled, well, you can't really ignore the first option. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On May 17 2016 09:31 CometNine wrote: I'm on the other side of the camp in the sense that I come to TL to read news - Latest News. What's the point of a news website that isn't up to date? If you want spoiler free stuff - either bookmark the Tournaments Sub-forum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/ or keep yourself off TL until you've caught up on the VODs via twitch or something of the sort. This discussion happened a few months ago too where one of the Administrators (think it was lichter or wax) clarified their stance on reporting event winners and the spoiler option is no longer available afaik. Also - this discussion should be in website feedback not in this thread.. Anyway back on topic - after watching the first game I thought Nerchio was going to 4-0 it. Showtime did well to pull it back. Grats to him, well deserved. Why is it so hard to understand? Do we really need a degree to understand the problem here: It is still a news if the TEXT explains the result but not the Title of the News spoiling everything on the front page. So if you don't put the result in the Title, it wouldn't spoil the fun for so many, and still would be a "news". Since my English is so bad, I don't know how to put it more clearly. Sorry, I still hope this explains it now, or I will have to make some drawings to explain my point better. On May 17 2016 20:19 Elentos wrote: Yeah, there's basically no difference between "ShoWTimE Wins Dreamhack Tours" and "Dreamhack Tours Concluded" from a news standpoint, you will click on both anyway if you want the results. But if you don't want the result spoiled, well, you can't really ignore the first option. THIS. 100%. You got it. And a couple of months ago, you had the option to check a checkbox if you want spoilers on the front page or didn't. If you checked "I don't want spoilers", the title of the news would have been "Dreamhack Tours Concluded", if you did not care about spoilers the title would have been "ShoWTimE Wins Dreamhack Tours" . So there we have it: it wouldn't even have to be implemented, it was already there (well, only for logged in users and cookie monster), but it was possible. Or in other words: We have the technology... | ||
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
On May 17 2016 06:27 SeriousLus wrote: if u dont want any spoilers, DONT GO TO TL ON THE EVE OF A TOURNAMENT... jesus.. the children these days.. wtf else shold the title be? random player won a tournament but his name is not to be spoken about so noone can actually congratulate him? good god ppl calm the f down If you don't want any spoiler... it's really NOT that hard to not write the name of the winner in the title. It's a matter of respect for the readers. | ||
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