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kugHop
Profile Joined January 2016
Luxembourg44 Posts
May 11 2016 13:13 GMT
#21
Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches...

Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...

Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...
...and on the final day, our Lord and Savior, Maru, and his disciples sOs and Rogue appeared before us and said: Don't worry my loyal fans for Proleague will forever be our Kingdom!"
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 11 2016 13:14 GMT
#22
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016

There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about.

sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark.

What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary.

None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper 2 people from Code A qualifiers are facing eachother, if Maru got that kind of draw i am going to be very happy. It's a free win for Dark though with how poor Inno is, i mean he lost to a Dinosaur
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Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
May 11 2016 13:15 GMT
#23
Hero vs Pet and Inno vs Dark... Really GSL?
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 13:34:28
May 11 2016 13:20 GMT
#24
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016

There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about.

sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark.

What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary.

None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper 2 people from Code A qualifiers are facing eachother, if Maru got that kind of draw i am going to be very happy. It's a free win for Dark though with how poor Inno is, i mean he lost to a Dinosaur


INnoVation vs Stork was supposed to be a free win for INno, who would have thought that he almost got 3-0 by Stork.

With INno being in terrible form right now, someone with his skill would have been "fair" to get match with Dark, but he's THE Machine and it's a teamkill so I feel like that's mainly the reason why we're rioting.

However, I do want the Code A Group Stage back, this format is silly and with only 2 seasons a year, a lot of players will be missing out and that's totally not good for the scene
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Joker1
Profile Joined December 2015
France11 Posts
May 11 2016 13:23 GMT
#25
Hello, someone know when code A start ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
May 11 2016 13:29 GMT
#26
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016

There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about.

sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark.

What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary.

None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper?

On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example:

Trap vs sOs
- Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season
- sOs won his qualifier group over Pet

HerO vs Pet
- HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season
- Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs

These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
kell234
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation44 Posts
May 11 2016 13:29 GMT
#27
parting(
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 11 2016 13:41 GMT
#28
On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote:
Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches...

Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...

Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...

Pet is going to beat HerO lol
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
May 11 2016 13:44 GMT
#29
On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote:
Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches...

Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...

Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...

Pet is going to beat HerO lol

Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 11 2016 13:45 GMT
#30
On May 11 2016 22:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote:
Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches...

Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...

Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...

Pet is going to beat HerO lol

Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud.


I don't think Stork's PvZ is good either
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
May 11 2016 13:46 GMT
#31
On May 11 2016 22:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016

There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about.

sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark.

What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary.

None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper?

On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example:

Trap vs sOs
- Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season
- sOs won his qualifier group over Pet

HerO vs Pet
- HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season
- Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs

These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet.



There are many ways they could avoid this kind of draw... They could rank players based on their proleague record or aligulac rating but they prefer to randomize and they end up with more viewers in code a than in code s lol
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 13:51:31
May 11 2016 13:47 GMT
#32
On May 11 2016 22:45 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote:
Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches...

Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...

Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...

Pet is going to beat HerO lol

Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud.


I don't think Stork's PvZ is good either

Maybe, but he can get good practice in. RagnaroK beat Hurricane in the qualifier today, and we all know Hurricane coached Stork through his last Code A match already.

On May 11 2016 22:46 Hurricaned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 22:29 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote:
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote:
We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016

There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about.

sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark.

What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary.

None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper?

On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example:

Trap vs sOs
- Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season
- sOs won his qualifier group over Pet

HerO vs Pet
- HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season
- Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs

These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet.



There are many ways they could avoid this kind of draw... They could rank players based on their proleague record or aligulac rating but they prefer to randomize and they end up with more viewers in code a than in code s lol

Rating by Proleague disadvantages all players who don't play on Proleague teams or don't get fielded often. Ranking by Aligulac benefits all online heroes. Makes more sense to rate by GSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 13:56:47
May 11 2016 13:49 GMT
#33
Kenzi's tweeting out the Code A matches



Chinese teams flair when
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
May 11 2016 13:55 GMT
#34
Fucking hell Leenock vs Stats? Really? Afreeca what are you doing?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 13:56:23
May 11 2016 13:55 GMT
#35
On May 11 2016 22:49 Colouss wrote:
Kenzi's tweeting out the Code A matches

https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/730394964828426240

Another KT teamkill
And Bomber vs Super too, Afreeca teamkill
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 11 2016 13:56 GMT
#36
Symbol vs Patience
aLive vs BIllowy
Super vs Bomber

Afreeca killing themselves
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 13:57:01
May 11 2016 13:56 GMT
#37
Achievement unlocked: ALL THE TEAMKILLS

3x Freecs, 2x KT, 1x Jin Air, 1x SKT
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 11 2016 13:57 GMT
#38
So many teamkills, sucks that I'm an Afreeca fan
Chinese teams flair when
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55581 Posts
May 11 2016 14:01 GMT
#39
Many of these matches look decisively uninteresting to be frank. I got about 5 I'm interested in seeing, and 3 of those are teamkills, which sucks.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 11 2016 14:06 GMT
#40
On May 11 2016 23:01 Elentos wrote:
Many of these matches look decisively uninteresting to be frank. I got about 5 I'm interested in seeing, and 3 of those are teamkills, which sucks.


I don't think there's a single match I'm not looking forward to actually, I can think of reasons I care about every match.
It might be an unfair tournament, but Code A genuinely might be my favourite part of GSL
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