Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S...
Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage...
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kugHop
Luxembourg44 Posts
Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S... Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage... | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote: We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016 There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about. sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark. What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary. None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper 2 people from Code A qualifiers are facing eachother, if Maru got that kind of draw i am going to be very happy. It's a free win for Dark though with how poor Inno is, i mean he lost to a Dinosaur ![]() | ||
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Hurricaned
France126 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote: We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016 There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about. sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark. What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary. None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper 2 people from Code A qualifiers are facing eachother, if Maru got that kind of draw i am going to be very happy. It's a free win for Dark though with how poor Inno is, i mean he lost to a Dinosaur ![]() INnoVation vs Stork was supposed to be a free win for INno, who would have thought that he almost got 3-0 by Stork. With INno being in terrible form right now, someone with his skill would have been "fair" to get match with Dark, but he's THE Machine and it's a teamkill so I feel like that's mainly the reason why we're rioting. However, I do want the Code A Group Stage back, this format is silly and with only 2 seasons a year, a lot of players will be missing out and that's totally not good for the scene | ||
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Joker1
France11 Posts
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote: We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016 There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about. sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark. What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary. None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example: Trap vs sOs - Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season - sOs won his qualifier group over Pet HerO vs Pet - HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season - Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet. | ||
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kell234
Russian Federation44 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote: Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches... Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S... Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage... Pet is going to beat HerO lol | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote: Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches... Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S... Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage... Pet is going to beat HerO lol Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:44 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote: On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote: Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches... Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S... Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage... Pet is going to beat HerO lol Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud. I don't think Stork's PvZ is good either | ||
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Hurricaned
France126 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:29 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote: On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote: We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016 There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about. sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark. What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary. None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example: Trap vs sOs - Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season - sOs won his qualifier group over Pet HerO vs Pet - HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season - Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet. There are many ways they could avoid this kind of draw... They could rank players based on their proleague record or aligulac rating but they prefer to randomize and they end up with more viewers in code a than in code s lol | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:45 NinjaToss wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:44 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 22:41 Ej_ wrote: On May 11 2016 22:13 kugHop wrote: Code A is getting worse and worse, it's just killing strong players on the spot... While Stork and HerO get a free Code S spot (vs Ragnarok and Pet...) sOs, Trap, Inno, Dark and surely more to come find themselves in realistic RO16/8 matches... Somehow I get the feeling that half the Code A matches will be more interesting than most of RO32 in Code S... Please Afreeca, bring back Code A Group Stage... Pet is going to beat HerO lol Can very well happen. RagnaroK could beat Stork too, I guess, but his ZvP is a complete dud. I don't think Stork's PvZ is good either Maybe, but he can get good practice in. RagnaroK beat Hurricane in the qualifier today, and we all know Hurricane coached Stork through his last Code A match already. On May 11 2016 22:46 Hurricaned wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2016 22:29 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 22:14 Pandemona wrote: On May 11 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote: On May 11 2016 21:57 Pandemona wrote: We had Zest vs Maru last season remember. This is the brutal reality that is Korean sc2 right now. Inno could be a whole 12 months without playing in Code S if he fails to negotiate Dark, as this will be the (or is due to be) the last GSL of 2016 There's a difference though. Maru and Zest ended up being matched because of seeding. Maru was 1st in his group, Zest 2nd in his, and that's just how it came about. sOs vs Trap doesn't look like there's seeding at all. Trap was 9-12th last season, he shouldn't get someone who finished 1st in their group. Same with INnoVation vs Dark. What we have right now looks like it's completely arbitrary. None of those were Code S last season though so i think it is fair on paper? On paper, what would be fair is that people who do better in the qualifiers (1st place in a group) and the ones who did well in Code S avoid the (on paper) hardest draws for Code A. As an example: Trap vs sOs - Trap was 9-12th in Code S last season - sOs won his qualifier group over Pet HerO vs Pet - HerO was 25th-32nd in Code S last season - Pet got 2nd in his qualifier group after losing to sOs These matches, on paper, are not fair for Trap or sOs, but hugely advantageous for HerO and Pet. There are many ways they could avoid this kind of draw... They could rank players based on their proleague record or aligulac rating but they prefer to randomize and they end up with more viewers in code a than in code s lol Rating by Proleague disadvantages all players who don't play on Proleague teams or don't get fielded often. Ranking by Aligulac benefits all online heroes. Makes more sense to rate by GSL. | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
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Elentos
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Durnuu
13325 Posts
On May 11 2016 22:49 Colouss wrote: Kenzi's tweeting out the Code A matches https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/730394964828426240 Another KT teamkill ![]() And Bomber vs Super too, Afreeca teamkill | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
aLive vs BIllowy Super vs Bomber Afreeca killing themselves | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
3x Freecs, 2x KT, 1x Jin Air, 1x SKT | ||
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Colouss
United States501 Posts
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Elentos
55593 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On May 11 2016 23:01 Elentos wrote: Many of these matches look decisively uninteresting to be frank. I got about 5 I'm interested in seeing, and 3 of those are teamkills, which sucks. I don't think there's a single match I'm not looking forward to actually, I can think of reasons I care about every match. It might be an unfair tournament, but Code A genuinely might be my favourite part of GSL | ||
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