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Proleague, KeSPA Cup confirmed for 2016 - Page 3

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HzVee
Profile Joined August 2015
43 Posts
October 11 2015 00:36 GMT
#41
I'd like Bo7 with 2 archon matches!
Can't wait how the high level players will play the new units, and who can find out new exciting strategies first.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 00:37:53
October 11 2015 00:36 GMT
#42
On October 11 2015 08:36 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 02:18 The_Templar wrote:
I'm calling it now, at least one of the teams in next year's finals won't be any of Jin Air, CJ, SKT, KT. Feels like next year is going to be fairly different.


well new game means current player skill may not mean much for LotV so its not very unlikely that the big4 wont all finish top4

Proleague took 10 months this year. If the 2016 season is anything like that, the meta/players will have stabilized long before the playoff spots are determined.

On October 11 2015 09:36 HzVee wrote:
I'd like Bo7 with 2 archon matches!
Can't wait how the high level players will play the new units, and who can find out new exciting strategies first.

I think one archon match would be enough, sort of like 2v2s in BW PL IIRC?
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 11 2015 00:54 GMT
#43
2016 will be another wonderful year to watch Kespa elephants dominate the world.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 11 2015 02:51 GMT
#44
On October 11 2015 02:18 The_Templar wrote:
I'm calling it now, at least one of the teams in next year's finals won't be any of Jin Air, CJ, SKT, KT. Feels like next year is going to be fairly different.


Samsung could at least be top 4 if Solar didn't underperform so hard in proleague. You'd think a player with 3 premier titles in HotS could get a winrate better than 26%.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
October 11 2015 03:32 GMT
#45
clarifying some things here

With Legacy of the Void on the horizon, the first iteration of a LotV Proleague was confirmed on-stream during today's SK Telecom Proleague Grand Finals. The chairman of IeSF (confirmation needed) merrily confirmed the continuation of Proleague into the new year, thanking the fans for their unending support of the league and stating that professional Starcraft II in Korea could not have gone on without them.


he used to be chairman of kespa but resigned because there was a new rule stating he couldn't be a president of a government organization and hold a district position (or something like that) at the same time. i dont actually think he's the chairman of iesf but he still has a lot of power within kespa.

The chairman also promised that there will be additional KeSPA Cups going forward, at least one (supposedly one yet to be played in 2015) but presumably more.


there is the lol kespa cup next month but no sc2 one for this year.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
October 11 2015 03:47 GMT
#46
On October 11 2015 03:14 Zealously wrote:
The chairman super vaguely implied that "other" exciting things are on the horizon and that next year will be "even more exciting than this year" - it could be smooth PR talk to roll off his announcement of 2016 Proleague, but given the addition of Starleague this year and the apparent growth of SC2 in Korea, maybe they have a big sponsor-related announcement to make eventually?

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On October 11 2015 03:13 jalstar wrote:
Has SSL been confirmed for 2016 as well?


More or less, at least. I've not heard anything to the contrary, but I'm fuzzy on whether or not it was explicitly confirmed to be continuing into 2016. I think so.


SPOTV confirmed the 2016 SSL at the end of Seasons 3.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8071 Posts
October 11 2015 04:02 GMT
#47
Awesome!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
October 11 2015 07:19 GMT
#48
On October 11 2015 12:32 GTR wrote:
clarifying some things here

Show nested quote +
With Legacy of the Void on the horizon, the first iteration of a LotV Proleague was confirmed on-stream during today's SK Telecom Proleague Grand Finals. The chairman of IeSF (confirmation needed) merrily confirmed the continuation of Proleague into the new year, thanking the fans for their unending support of the league and stating that professional Starcraft II in Korea could not have gone on without them.


he used to be chairman of kespa but resigned because there was a new rule stating he couldn't be a president of a government organization and hold a district position (or something like that) at the same time. i dont actually think he's the chairman of iesf but he still has a lot of power within kespa.

Show nested quote +
The chairman also promised that there will be additional KeSPA Cups going forward, at least one (supposedly one yet to be played in 2015) but presumably more.


there is the lol kespa cup next month but no sc2 one for this year.


Not even after WCS Global Finals?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
October 11 2015 07:24 GMT
#49
On October 11 2015 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 05:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:39 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hope they go back to crazy maps...that will be insane in legacy

Ah yeah different maps would be cool too.
So now we have :
-bo7
-new maps

Double blind lineups.

Make it so.

Wouldn't that make it kinda random? Maybe i simply misunderstand though


no, I'm talking about the format that they took after the savior match fixing scandal, where neither team revealed their player on each map until the last minute.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10776 Posts
October 11 2015 07:24 GMT
#50
Sick. KeSPA Cups are hype!
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 11 2015 07:47 GMT
#51
They also mentioned an amateur tournament on stream, didn't they? Would be great to have some new names coming into the professional scene, wonder if it's going to be anything like Courage tourneys
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
October 11 2015 08:57 GMT
#52
Maybe I'm wrong but Bo7 sounds bad to me. Bo5 is fine, we get to see the very top players, not the B teamers, and the matches are already quite long to watch every monday and tuesday. Going to Bo7 will result in lower level matches, longer days and will require more decent players to skip travelling to other events because they have to work on proleague.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18684 Posts
October 11 2015 09:57 GMT
#53
On October 11 2015 17:57 EvilsPresley wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong but Bo7 sounds bad to me. Bo5 is fine, we get to see the very top players, not the B teamers, and the matches are already quite long to watch every monday and tuesday. Going to Bo7 will result in lower level matches, longer days and will require more decent players to skip travelling to other events because they have to work on proleague.


Trust me, Bo7 will not result to lower level matches. It will lead to way more excitement
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
October 11 2015 10:08 GMT
#54
Bo7 matches would be a dream come true!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 11 2015 11:34 GMT
#55
On October 11 2015 16:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 05:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:39 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hope they go back to crazy maps...that will be insane in legacy

Ah yeah different maps would be cool too.
So now we have :
-bo7
-new maps

Double blind lineups.

Make it so.

Wouldn't that make it kinda random? Maybe i simply misunderstand though


no, I'm talking about the format that they took after the savior match fixing scandal, where neither team revealed their player on each map until the last minute.

Yeah that sounds bad to me
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
October 11 2015 11:37 GMT
#56
On October 11 2015 20:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 16:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 05:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:39 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hope they go back to crazy maps...that will be insane in legacy

Ah yeah different maps would be cool too.
So now we have :
-bo7
-new maps

Double blind lineups.

Make it so.

Wouldn't that make it kinda random? Maybe i simply misunderstand though


no, I'm talking about the format that they took after the savior match fixing scandal, where neither team revealed their player on each map until the last minute.

Yeah that sounds bad to me


have you watched proleague during those days?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 11 2015 11:38 GMT
#57
On October 11 2015 20:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 20:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 16:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 05:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:39 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hope they go back to crazy maps...that will be insane in legacy

Ah yeah different maps would be cool too.
So now we have :
-bo7
-new maps

Double blind lineups.

Make it so.

Wouldn't that make it kinda random? Maybe i simply misunderstand though


no, I'm talking about the format that they took after the savior match fixing scandal, where neither team revealed their player on each map until the last minute.

Yeah that sounds bad to me


have you watched proleague during those days?

No, but as i said before, that sounds pretty random if only the map is known
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 11:49:03
October 11 2015 11:46 GMT
#58
On October 11 2015 20:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 20:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 20:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 16:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 05:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 11 2015 01:39 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hope they go back to crazy maps...that will be insane in legacy

Ah yeah different maps would be cool too.
So now we have :
-bo7
-new maps

Double blind lineups.

Make it so.

Wouldn't that make it kinda random? Maybe i simply misunderstand though


no, I'm talking about the format that they took after the savior match fixing scandal, where neither team revealed their player on each map until the last minute.

Yeah that sounds bad to me


have you watched proleague during those days?

No, but as i said before, that sounds pretty random if only the map is known

I can assure you that it is not.

also it puts a big dent on any matchfixing operation.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
October 11 2015 12:08 GMT
#59
Bo7 provides too many games IMO. Current format is the best. And also Archon Mode is not for pro scene IMO.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 13:38:38
October 11 2015 12:24 GMT
#60
bo5 is stupid and allows for a team to be carried by 2 good players (what a depth of line up!)
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