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[Code S] Finals Preview: INnoVation vs ByuL

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[Code S] Finals Preview: INnoVation vs ByuL

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October 3rd, 2015 22:33 GMT

The Man With Two Faces


by TheOneAboveU

125-74 (62,81%) vs Korean Terrans in Heart of the Swarm
12-6 (66,67%) vs Korean Terrans in recent matches
11-5 (68,75%) vs INnoVation


Statistically, things look fine for ByuL. Statistically, things look great. One could not name three players in the world at present that are decidedly better than ByuL. Save for his teammate herO, one could not name another player to match his consistency this year - nor his peaks.

Yet all this must take a backseat to a much more worrying trend: going into this duel with INnoVation, ByuL has a final mountain to climb. His record in StarLeague finals is, by a long shot, more disheartening than his consistency elsewhere is encouraging, as his floundering 1-4 and 2-4 losses against Rain and herO have cost the Zerg two championships already. But the numbers look bright. Terrans don't stand a chance against him right now, no matter if they are playing the dreaded mech style or working the finesse of the time-tested bio-mine. For ByuL, he has one shred of confidence to defy his consecutive defeats: he hasn't lost a series against INnoVation yet. Over the last weeks, several notable Terrans have tried to topple ByuL, and all have failed. Some made it close, some were shut down before they could even pass their challenges off as legitimate. For the Zerg, this is still the era of ByuL. The unfortunate other side of the coin is that he stands before a crossroads: a victory will redeem him, a defeat will take him down the most infamous path of Starcraft finalists: the Kong line.




So here we are… again. For the third time in a period of only four months, (Z)ByuL is standing in the Grand Finals of a Korean individual league, his dream of becoming a champion seemingly within range... again. People often say that third time’s the charm, but for ByuL the third time must be more like some hell on earth. It's a chance, but it is a chance that he must not fail to take.

Two times his dream was in sight, two times the chances of his dream becoming reality have been brutally shattered. When (Z)soO was in a similar position last year, we began to ask ourselves how much mental pain a player can bear before his mind breaks. For the SK Telecom Zerg, five second places in premier tournaments was the limit. But while soO became angrier with every loss and each championship taken from his hands, completing the gruelling climb back to the finals again, again, again, each defeat driving him forward, ByuL doesn’t seem to be angry at all. ByuL’s face is empty when we see him in a booth at the moment, a void of emotions rather than a maelstrom.

And recently, the seemingly unbreakable ByuL, famous for his mental fortitude, renowned for his indomitabilty, has suffered from this inner struggle. The wall around his mind has cracked, and doubts have crept through. Weaknesses, slithering through. Doubts in his abilities to shake off losses and setbacks, to win in a desperate situation with his back at a wall. To doubt one's greatest strength is a sure way path to tragedy—and ByuL seems to be doing exactly that. The CJ Zerg’s fans need to hope that the disastrous game against (P)sOs in Proleague this week was a wake-up slap. It showed the symptoms of a broken spirit: doubts, indecision and nerves, epitomized by a lack of direction and a fumbling of advantages. That’s not the ByuL we know, and that is not a ByuL who is going to win a high-stakes series against (T)INnoVation.

The other ByuL could. The one who carved himself a path through S2SL and GSL despite a loss in the finals, driven by the sheer strength of will and a desire for redemption. That ByuL has eliminated INnoVation from S2SL Season 3 and is probably the best ZvT player on the planet— most definitely the best at handling mech. But to be this person again, this merciless beast of a player, he needs to let go of the doubts - if such doubts exist - poisoning his mind right now. Because what makes him such a great player, especially against mech, is his mental strength, his ability to withstand pressure and to think clearly, even in the heat of battle. He can take hit after hit and still be in the game, cling to what little opportunity he has when other players would have already surrendered. ByuL has the right amount of patience needed to temper the heat of his killer instinct. The combination is ideal for facing deep siege tank lines, or a complex mech death march threatening his bases. He knows when to attack, when to defend, and more importantly knows when to sacrifice assets for survival, and the chance to fight in just the right moment. He is a scary player to face, especially for INnoVation, an opponent often called out for his predictability and weakness against surprise attacks. An opponent whose natural counter is ByuL.

INnoVation’s mech is his bread and butter against Zerg right now— and ByuL is the best Zerg player against mech. Bio is the alternative, but ByuL has crushed any such attempts, with widely different execution, without quarter. Cheese is the SK Telecom Terran's weakness, and ByuL has a lot of cheeses of his sleeve. Of course, we cannot circle the elephant in the room forever: INnoVation has been in this position before, facing a Zerg with a statistically favoured style one time before. He clashed with Soulkey in the very first season of WCS Korea, and there Soulkey put his weaknesses on full display. Soulkey found no success in the mundane and the ordinary, but when he clenched his teeth and did what was necessary to win, he not only won - he did it confidently, dominantly, and threw INnoVation far, far off balance. This time, it is the Zerg who holds the advantage beforehand, whose history of dominance overshadows his opponent. This time, it is the Zerg whose mental fortitude we must now question. Will we see one ByuL, the one we know, or the other - the one we don't?

This old ByuL would have probably welcomed INnoVation as his opponent in the Grand Final of GSL. His best match-up against an adversary that has never defeated him— sounds like a dream, too good to be true. Both still hold true - ByuL is most comfortable in ZvT, and remains undefeated against his opponent. Yet this is no dream. With the cracks in his armor visible and doubts plaguing him, ByuL isn’t as immovable as he was a few weeks ago, when he last faced INnoVation. The ByuL of last week was nothing but a shadow of the player he was supposed to be, the player we assumed would carry CJ all the way.



"Why do we fall, ByuL?"


The first time ByuL lost a final, he stood next to the champion on the stage, in tears, at a loss for words. The world saw his sadness and asked if he would ever stand upon such a stage again, if this broken heart was one that would mend. The answer was a resounding yes.

The second time ByuL lost a final, he did not stand next to the champion on the stage. ByuL stayed in his booth, hidden from the world, with only his mother and a few teammates to console him behind the scenes, because everyone else celebrated with the victor. And the world, seeing ByuL's struggle, once again asked if he would ever stand upon such a stage again. Would the once-mended heart, when broken, mend again?

Again, ByuL stood stiff-backed and told us yes. After all he went through, ByuL remains the master of his fate. It lies in his hands and his mind only. He dictates its direction. His might be taken down the edge and made to accept defeat once more, piling greater weights on those that already lay on his shoulders, or he might turn around and fight, fiercer than the time before, and the time before that.

Faster, smarter, uglier. All that is necessary. Hell has its own charm—and it might bring out the best of ByuL.


"So we can learn to pick ourselves up."


Old And New, As One


by Destructicon

As 2015's twilight draws close so does the end of this tournament, the last GSL played under Heart of the Swarm. Throughout its rich history the GSL has witnessed multiple generations rise and fall, the seemingly inevitable takeover by KeSPA players, numerous meta changes and the myriad of stories carried on their crest. Whether by fate or coincidence, the last GSL of this era will mimic the very first one: a TvZ showdown between the best players of their respective race.

Just like his climatic finals against his nemesis (Z)Soulkey, (T)INnoVation enters as the favorite. His meticulous focus on mechanics has served him well throughout his career, being the linchpin of his 67% career win rate. Meanwhile has racked up an slightly better 68% win rate in TvZ. While at first glance it is not as frightening as his 90%+ win rate before his previous final, the caliber of players he has defeated and how much better they have become, it may be even more terrifying. The head count over the last two months for INnoVation includes (Z)HyuN, (Z)Hydra, (Z)Losira, (Z)Curious, (Z)soO, (Z)Life and (Z)Rogue.

The only loss INnoVation has suffered over the past two months has been a close 2-3 series against his current adversary. But judging from all the opponents he's plowed through to reach this point, Mr. Roboto seems unscathed by that failure. He is riding a recent high, his TvZ is the best it has been in recent memory and the meta favors his mechanics and his style a lot. Surely INnoVation has this in the bag, right? That's what INnoVation thought a long time ago too. Hubris cost him that championship, and he'll need to revisit his past to make sure he doesn't make the same mistakes tomorrow.


Say what you will about INnoVation, but he possesses a look of unrivaled serenity.


INnoVation's first mistake was overconfidence in his style. For the longest time it didn't matter whether he showcased any variety, as no one could challenge his basic strategy. He parade-pushed his way through every Zerg imaginable, slaughtering the swarm in brutal fashion. First he took down Life, the Blizzard Cup champion, in their fateful Ro16 group of death; he then dismantled RorO, the previous season champion, with cold efficiency. At that point Symbol was the only Zerg that had skirted past the terror, taking two maps off the machine with early game busts. While INnoVation took the series, it was the first hint that he had a identifiable, exploitable flaw. But he didn't care much about such a minor setback and stuck to his tried and tested formula. Until the latter half of the finals, it appeared as unassailable as before. Up 3 games against Soulkey with 3 games to burn, he refused to consolidate his lead with safe play. Instead he continued to play greedy and lost game after game to Soulkey's busts. By game 6 INnoVation was in such a state of disbelief that he tried to 11/11 a second time, only to have it held and get busted again. In game 7 INnoVation's mentality was so shattered that he flew three full medivacs into the maws of waiting mutalisks.

For the first time, the hallowed Terran was defeated. What was supposed to be his finest moment was snatched away from him. However people still had confidence in INnoVation and after his victory in the WCS Season Final 1, many labeled Soulkey's victory as a fluke. Unfazed, INnoVation stuck to his winning formula and only made minor tweaks to his approach. His cool confidence came back to bite him again, this time in the OSL semifinal against Maru. In a different matchup Maru committed to the same strategy Soulkey tried, all-inning the machine three times in a row. Despite INnoVation's wildly different builds in TvT, Maru gambled that INnoVation would rely on pseudo-dedicated pressure or passive greed. And it worked: by game 4 INnoVation had retreated into full defensive mode, leaving Maru open to be as greedy as possible.

As more and more cracks were being uncovered in INnoVation's strategic armor, he retained faith in his mechanics. His few losses came against the best players in the world, and those anomalies would only manifest against the highest competition. He could still rely on standard play against the rest. That was INnoVation's second mistake. As he went into the Group F of the last GSL in 2013, little did he know that he would be humbled by someone who was barely relevant at that point. DRG, former champion turned former champion, went head to head against INnoVation in three consecutive macro games. Not only was DRG able to fight toe to toe with INnoVation, but he was actually won; if not for a hidden CC on Whirlwind, he might have swept the machine 2-0. The loss was the second huge blow to INnoVation's aura of invincibility. Shortly thereafter Curious went head to head against the machine in an IEM qualifier and managed to defeat him in straight macro games, effectively ending INnoVation's era of TvZ domination.

The last mistake INnoVation made was underestimating his opponents. He didn't give Soulkey, (T)Maru, (Z)DRG or (Z)Curious the necessary respect. Perhaps disgruntled by his disappointing finishes in Korea, INnoVation joined Acer in search of greener pastures. Things initially looked good for him as he flew to the Seasons 2 final in Cologne. Then he met (T)TaeJa, who dismantled RoBogus after a titanic clash on Newkirk. TvT, the last bastion of defense for INnoVation had also been breached, and it had been done by someone who never managed to even make a GSL final. To drive the point home, TaeJa defeated INnoVation again in the Dreamhack Bucharest finals.

Battered and beaten, INnoVation looked like a shell of his former self. It is then he realized what he needed to do to get back on top, quickly signing with SKT1 and moving back to Korea. After just a short time in INnoVation managed to secure his first GSL, the win that had eluded him for the better part of a year. However, having defeated the notorious Kong soO, doubt still lingered. The question refused to die. Had INnoVation truly learned the error of his ways?


If nothing else, he had at least learned the way of... posing?


The answer throughout late 2014 and early 2015 seemed to be "no". During that period INnoVation reached the quarterfinals of BlizzCon, Hot6ix Cup, GSL Season 1, and IEM Katowice. Overall these results were by no means bad, they pale in comparison to INnoVation's ambition. And there are signs that the Robot had begun to rebuild itself. He managed to win IEM X - Gamescom of the back of a dominating performance and despite losing to ByuL in the Ro8 of S2SL Season 3, it was a close affair. Even in TvP, where he was notorious for excessive SCV pulls, he reinvented himself, surprising Zest with a new widow mine build and then deflecting later aggression for a easy win. INnoVation looked like a new man. No longer content to sit back, he was now in the driver's seat with unpredictable early game pressure. And as the games went long all his old strengths came back, revealing a new impenetrable armored exoskeleton.

Heading into the last GSL finals of the year, INnoVation looks like the complete package. He has augmented his fearsome mechanics with a strong, calculated early game. But then again, we thought he was invincible two years ago. Can INnoVation fight to prevent a repeat of the past, or is it all just Bogus?


Writer: TheOneAboveU, Destructicon
Complementary Writing: Zealously
Graphics:shiroiusagi
Photo Credit: Shayla, Ethan Ahn
Editors: Zealously, CosmicSpiral
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sk1pv5
Profile Joined July 2014
United States9 Posts
October 03 2015 22:40 GMT
#2
Heart wants Byul to win but brain says INnoVation.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15920 Posts
October 03 2015 22:50 GMT
#3
So hard to decide for who I should root. Byul has deserved it more then anyone else and I don't want to see him lose the third time in a row, but INnoVation is probably my favourite player at the moment.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 03 2015 23:07 GMT
#4
Head and Heart: Inno
but I liquibet byul
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qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 03 2015 23:08 GMT
#5
Nice preview.

Outright to win
Byul 2.75 ?
Or
Innovation at 1.39?

Who would you bet on?
dahtroop
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland46 Posts
October 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#6
I really hope Byul finally wins.
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
October 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#7
SO MUCH HYPE!

This will probably be the last great GSL finals. Legacy of the Void looks terrible.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
October 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#8
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
October 03 2015 23:20 GMT
#9
The first time ByuL lost a final, he stood next to the champion on the stage, in tears, at a loss for words.

Wrong, his final against rain is his second one.
His first one was against Polt in WCS AM
qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 03 2015 23:21 GMT
#10
Byul 2.75 ?
Or
Innovation at 1.39?
qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 03 2015 23:22 GMT
#11
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 03 2015 23:24 GMT
#12
On October 04 2015 08:22 qqMagnuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?

Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am
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Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2015-10-03 23:26:29
October 03 2015 23:25 GMT
#13
I'll root for ByuL to break the curse(s), but my guess is:

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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 03 2015 23:26 GMT
#14
Innovation. Hands down. Never cheering for a Zerg again.
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qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 03 2015 23:26 GMT
#15
Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am


How is it even remotely good to wake up a Sunday at 8am when you are gonna stay up to 4 am?
qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 03 2015 23:27 GMT
#16
Any betting people?
Outright to win
Byul 2.75 ?
Or
Innovation at 1.39?
Who?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10055 Posts
October 03 2015 23:34 GMT
#17
Innovation win this pls ♥
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37022 Posts
October 03 2015 23:37 GMT
#18
INNOVATION!!!

Time for INno to show HotS that Terran still has something to say.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 23:43:30
October 03 2015 23:41 GMT
#19
I haven't watched a single game of s2 and s3 until today, but I'll be tuning in to root for my boy INnoVation (and catching up what I can between now and then).

What a poetic sendoff to HOTS would be another TvZ championship for the player who redefined the defining MU of SC2.
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iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
October 03 2015 23:44 GMT
#20
zerg doesnt have chance until lotv , sry i said it
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 23:47:49
October 03 2015 23:46 GMT
#21
This final has so much potential both in game quality and in narrative. Wish GOM was hyping it hard like SSL did for ByuL vs herO.

I just want to see if ByuL can actually go 6-0 against Bogus. Might not seem like much, but then you have to consider just how dominant Bogus has been in TvZ, he's easily the best TvZ player to date. Even recently, excluding his loss to ByuL he's on a 13-win streak in TvZ with the streak literally containing every other top-tier Zerg (soO, Dark, Curious, Life, Rogue, HyuN). A zerg actually dethroning Taeja as his top nemesis would really be astounding.

and he's just a Koreigner
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 03 2015 23:49 GMT
#22
On October 04 2015 08:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 08:22 qqMagnuz wrote:
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?

Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am

Its quite literally the worst time for the finals to take place
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 03 2015 23:50 GMT
#23
On October 04 2015 08:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 08:22 qqMagnuz wrote:
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?

Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am

2am?! I'm jealous .
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
October 04 2015 00:03 GMT
#24
Superstition tells me I shouldn't watch this, but I'm actually going to be awake so I have to.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
October 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#25
Actually ByuL is undefeated vs Innovation in 2015 lol.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
October 04 2015 00:20 GMT
#26
Innovation win pls. Thx.

I definitely think this series has a lot of potential though. Innovation is looking amazing now, but Byul's recent victory over him, and Byul's consistency definitely keep him as a contender. I'm favoring Innovation, but if Bogus has one of his derp moments (hi Soulkey vs Innovation finals), then Byul can break his silver surfer trend.
wstubzi
Profile Joined February 2015
New Zealand224 Posts
October 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#27
Don't break my heart please INno, gl hf
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#28
Statistically ByuL wins 4-0 maybe 4-1, but soO proved that head to head stats and vRace stats mean nothing
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ZombieFrog
Profile Joined August 2014
United States87 Posts
October 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#29
Well at this point it would be heartbreaking for Byul to lose again, so I hope he smashes innovations mech for days in the finals
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 04 2015 00:56 GMT
#30
On October 04 2015 08:44 iamkaokao wrote:
zerg doesnt have chance until lotv , sry i said it


It's not like the latest Premier tournament ended with a ZvZ finals.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 04 2015 01:01 GMT
#31
Finals of first GSL of hot, finals of last GSL of hots. That quite a feather in bogus's cap.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 04 2015 01:07 GMT
#32
On October 04 2015 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 08:24 The_Templar wrote:
On October 04 2015 08:22 qqMagnuz wrote:
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?

Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am

Its quite literally the worst time for the finals to take place


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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 04 2015 01:17 GMT
#33
On October 04 2015 10:07 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 08:49 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 04 2015 08:24 The_Templar wrote:
On October 04 2015 08:22 qqMagnuz wrote:
I kind of hate how they change the time for the grand finals, every time. Waking up at 3 a.m. for regular GSL works for me, I can do that and get my cardio done early in the morning.

Then they change it for the grand finals only to midnight and I just can't. D:

Ah well. Go ByuL. Beat those mental demons, dude.


I have to wake up at 8 am. Which isn't even bad. Nothing like GSL music, Tasteless and Arotisis and a cup of coffee in the morning. Where are u located?

Europe always gets the good end of these GSL times, I have to get up at 2am

Its quite literally the worst time for the finals to take place


Starts 7pm NZ time. Living the dream.

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qqMagnuz
Profile Joined February 2015
44 Posts
October 04 2015 01:19 GMT
#34
Nice preview.

Outright to win
Byul 2.75 ?
Or
Innovation at 1.39?

Who would you bet on?

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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 04 2015 01:44 GMT
#35
On October 04 2015 09:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
Statistically ByuL wins 4-0 maybe 4-1, but soO proved that head to head stats and vRace stats mean nothing

I wonder what the statistics look like if you replace Byul with 'generic Kong'.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
October 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#36
On October 04 2015 08:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
This final has so much potential both in game quality and in narrative. Wish GOM was hyping it hard like SSL did for ByuL vs herO.


Genuinely disappointed at the lack of effort from gom on this one
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 04 2015 02:57 GMT
#37
On October 04 2015 10:50 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 08:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
This final has so much potential both in game quality and in narrative. Wish GOM was hyping it hard like SSL did for ByuL vs herO.


Genuinely disappointed at the lack of effort from gom on this one

yeah i was looking for a preview video to put in the LR thread and couldn't even find one. like wth the narrative for this is sick, Inno making his 3rd GSL finals, one every year, ByuL, beating Inno constantly this year and best zerg of the year in his 3rd starleague finals back to back to back, like wtf GOM
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 04 2015 03:07 GMT
#38
On October 04 2015 11:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 10:50 atrox_ wrote:
On October 04 2015 08:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
This final has so much potential both in game quality and in narrative. Wish GOM was hyping it hard like SSL did for ByuL vs herO.


Genuinely disappointed at the lack of effort from gom on this one

yeah i was looking for a preview video to put in the LR thread and couldn't even find one. like wth the narrative for this is sick, Inno making his 3rd GSL finals, one every year, ByuL, beating Inno constantly this year and best zerg of the year in his 3rd starleague finals back to back to back, like wtf GOM

Yeah GOM production is disappointing, the final will be in their studio too i guess??
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runnel04
Profile Joined August 2015
2 Posts
October 04 2015 03:36 GMT
#39
interview after the match
http://img.bbs.niuyou5.com/data/attachment/forum/201510/04/103721ugaj0vyvclfygmyl.jpg
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
October 04 2015 03:41 GMT
#40
On October 04 2015 09:07 digmouse wrote:
Actually ByuL is undefeated vs Innovation in 2015 lol.


havent you read the article? Byul is undefeated vs innovation. period. not only in 2015
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 04 2015 03:46 GMT
#41
On October 04 2015 12:36 runnel04 wrote:
interview after the match
http://img.bbs.niuyou5.com/data/attachment/forum/201510/04/103721ugaj0vyvclfygmyl.jpg


That awful CJ uniform can't hurt ByuL anymore ;;
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Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
October 04 2015 04:04 GMT
#42
head says innovation, heart says byul
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BlackZetsu
Profile Joined October 2014
United States179 Posts
October 04 2015 04:38 GMT
#43
Byul you little sissy. You better win after crying like a baby in the middle of your team's Proleague playoffs.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
October 04 2015 04:38 GMT
#44
Thank god you guys remembered that there is a final today... -_-
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 04 2015 05:00 GMT
#45
ByuL fighting! Really wanna see this guy finally ascend and become a champion, after working so hard to get to the top.

However, Innovation is just too beastly; I predict that he will close it out easily, especially considering ByuL's (probable) mental state after losing a bunch of finals. Unless ByuL can really channel the spirit of Soulkey, I'm predicting 4-1 Innovation.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
October 04 2015 05:14 GMT
#46
On October 04 2015 13:38 BlackZetsu wrote:
Byul you little sissy. You better win after crying like a baby in the middle of your team's Proleague playoffs.


He cried in the playoffs vs JAGW?
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
October 04 2015 05:25 GMT
#47
Inno please win ;_;
BlackZetsu
Profile Joined October 2014
United States179 Posts
October 04 2015 05:46 GMT
#48

He cried in the playoffs vs JAGW?


He sat there pouting by himself while the match was still going on. All the other CJ players were huddled together discussing what to do and Byul sat there like a little baby pouting by himself. Disgusting.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
October 04 2015 06:09 GMT
#49
innovation fighting!
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
October 04 2015 06:18 GMT
#50
What is the name of that Korean guy doing the interview? He always has so much passion :O
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
October 04 2015 06:18 GMT
#51
byuls got this ez boys
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
October 04 2015 06:32 GMT
#52
the kong line must continue
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 04 2015 08:32 GMT
#53
During that situation, I've always made around 80 lings. The army is so immobile you go for the main and prevent the Terran army from rebuilding. They can rebuild, of course, but that's when you make your move, when they're rebuilding all their supply depots and the tech buildings you manage to kill. It's surprisingly effective. Byul kept trying to do it with ultras, but cracklings are so much better, cheaper, and faster at doing all of that.

It only works once the hellion count is super low, but it was for a long time. Do it when you still have a ton of gas, of course. Byul just wasted too much gas on ultras that didn't do anything.
Symbioth
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland103 Posts
October 04 2015 08:33 GMT
#54
This game (5) was awesome but disgusting at the same time, nobody will tell me that was fair/balanced. Poor Byul, such a great effort by him.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 08:47:50
October 04 2015 08:47 GMT
#55
On October 04 2015 17:33 Symbioth wrote:
This game (5) was awesome but disgusting at the same time, nobody will tell me that was fair/balanced. Poor Byul, such a great effort by him.


A large part due to the map, although it will be fixed in LOTV, so I doubt we'll see too much commotion.

Just realized I've posted in the previews thread instead of tourney thread.
CometNine
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand87 Posts
October 04 2015 08:49 GMT
#56
Said this in the Ro4 Preview:

On September 25 2015 12:35 CometNine wrote:
It's a bit uncanny but last year's GSL Season 3 INnoVation played a TvT Semi and TvZ final which he won. If he beats Maru this time around, I reckon he'll repeat it again this year and win the TvZ Finals.
Another interesting thing - If he wins this GSL he'd have beaten a Protoss, a Terran and a Zerg on the way to the title.

However, I'd like to see Maru win this so we can have our first Triple Starleague winner or ByuL win his first tournament.


GG INnoVation. But man, I really feel for ByuL now... new king of kong line
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-04 09:24:15
October 04 2015 08:58 GMT
#57
Edit: Wrong thread sorry
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 04 2015 13:07 GMT
#58
While I feel bad about Byul getting second places, and would love to see this kid get a well deserved win, I can't help but cheer for Innovation. There's something about him that's irresistible...ah its probably his cold hearted, raw mechanics no bullshit style of play that just screams consistency.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
ts33kr
Profile Joined October 2015
3 Posts
October 05 2015 00:40 GMT
#59
sorry guys innovation win YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
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