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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 24 2015 07:26 GMT
#21
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:30 GMT
#22
On September 24 2015 16:26 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....


He played and beat Hydra and Lilbow 2-3 days ago.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 07:32:17
September 24 2015 07:31 GMT
#23
On September 24 2015 16:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:26 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....


He played and beat Hydra and Lilbow 2-3 days ago.

.... in what tournament?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:32 GMT
#24
On September 24 2015 16:31 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:30 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:26 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....


He played and beat Hydra and Lilbow 2-3 days ago.

.... in what tournament?


go4sc2
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 24 2015 07:32 GMT
#25
On September 24 2015 16:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:31 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:30 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:26 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....


He played and beat Hydra and Lilbow 2-3 days ago.

.... in what tournament?


go4sc2

Also, He LOST to Hydra 3-2.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 07:33:02
September 24 2015 07:32 GMT
#26
On September 24 2015 16:32 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:32 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:31 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:30 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:26 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Snute hasn't played any high-leveled games in 2 months either.....


He played and beat Hydra and Lilbow 2-3 days ago.

.... in what tournament?


go4sc2

Also, He LOST to Hydra 3-2.

he beat him 2-1 in a Ro4 though
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:33 GMT
#27
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 24 2015 07:33 GMT
#28
On September 24 2015 16:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:24 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:10 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:08 stuchiu wrote:
You realize you rated HerO higher than Snute because he beat Leenock and Sacsri, but then you ignore that Snute beat GSL CHAMPION RAIN AND SSL CHAMPION CLASSIC

he's a snute hater and a HerO fan boy


I guess I can't expect people to rank consistently to their own criteria like me.

I didn't rate HerO higher than Snute BECAUSE he beat leenock and Sacsri, I merely mentioned those as notable victories (made more notable because they are both going to be in attendance). You'll also notice that my criteria isn't entirely based on recent results. Also since beating Classic and Rain he has gotten put in the dumpster by TY (not blaming him TY puts a lot of people in the dumpster) and lost to Departure, B4, Petraeus, and Gungfubanda.


and HerO hasnt played an official game in 2 months.

Which is precisely why he's so low and why I mention that it's hard to judge his form. I firmly believe that talent wise he is better than Snute, and has a greater chance at stringing together victories over multiple koreans in a row than Snute does. I'm curious. if given control of the list would you simply swap HerO and Snute? Is Snute also better/more likely to win than Hurricane and Reality? I choose to believe that Snute winning 4 games against top protoss players is the exception, not the rule and that HerO is coming into this event as a better player overall.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 24 2015 07:34 GMT
#29
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

The "run" you're talking about for Snute was literally 5 games.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:35 GMT
#30
There is no reason to believe HerO is a better player overall, where is the evidence? There is no evidence.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 07:36:25
September 24 2015 07:35 GMT
#31
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

What about the players he lost to, hmm??? Would Hero lose to Gunfu or Petraeus?
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 07:36:17
September 24 2015 07:36 GMT
#32
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:36 GMT
#33
On September 24 2015 16:34 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

The "run" you're talking about for Snute was literally 5 games.


HerO's "good" runs is literally 3 series, one against Leenock, Sacsri and Terminator.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:37 GMT
#34
All I'm doing is using your arguments against you. That's it.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-24 07:37:55
September 24 2015 07:37 GMT
#35
On September 24 2015 16:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

The "run" you're talking about for Snute was literally 5 games.


HerO's "good" runs is literally 3 series, one against Leenock, Sacsri and Terminator.

His games in Proleague man!!!!!!! At least he beat INnoVation, Snute got rekt by INnoVation.....
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:38 GMT
#36
On September 24 2015 16:35 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

What about the players he lost to, hmm??? Would Hero lose to Gunfu or Petraeus?


I think Petreaus is better than Mlord and HerO lost to Mlord.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2015 07:39 GMT
#37
On September 24 2015 16:37 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:36 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

The "run" you're talking about for Snute was literally 5 games.


HerO's "good" runs is literally 3 series, one against Leenock, Sacsri and Terminator.

His games in Proleague man!!!!!!! At least he beat INnoVation, Snute got rekt by INnoVation.....


HerO got beat by TRUE, Snute beat TRUE, I'm using your logic now too.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 24 2015 07:40 GMT
#38
On September 24 2015 16:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:37 MiniFotToss wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:36 stuchiu wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:34 Yorkie wrote:
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

The "run" you're talking about for Snute was literally 5 games.


HerO's "good" runs is literally 3 series, one against Leenock, Sacsri and Terminator.

His games in Proleague man!!!!!!! At least he beat INnoVation, Snute got rekt by INnoVation.....


HerO got beat by TRUE, Snute beat TRUE, I'm using your logic now too.

True beat Snute 2-1 or 2-0 too..... but did Snute beat INnovation this year?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 24 2015 07:40 GMT
#39
On September 24 2015 16:35 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2015 16:33 stuchiu wrote:
HerO and Snute have had similar 2015 years in terms of results.

The difference? Snute beat higher level players in his runs.

What about the players he lost to, hmm??? Would Hero lose to Gunfu or Petraeus?

woudnt surprise me. I'd favor Petraeus and Gungfu has decent pvp
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 24 2015 07:41 GMT
#40
On September 24 2015 16:35 stuchiu wrote:
There is no reason to believe HerO is a better player overall, where is the evidence? There is no evidence.

Out of the past 5 tournaments Snute played in he was:
3-0d by Innovation (okay no big deal he was invited to SSL and got bopped as expected)
3-0d by TY (okay no big deal he beat Classic and Rain that's awesome)
Knocked out in the ro16 of WCS by Petraeus and Gungfu
Knocked out in ro16 by Rain and Huk in HSC
Knocked out in the ro16 of DH France by Harstem
I'm sorry that I have to sound like I'm shitting on Snute but I have to make my point.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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