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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 04 2015 14:14 GMT
#61
Hey, can't do worse than they're already doing, right?
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Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
August 04 2015 14:54 GMT
#62
Man, while this news is great, I really have to say I dislike Gerrard or however you spell is english ID name. Today, he didn't even come to proleague with the players; there were just the 4 players standling oddly with each other against Jin air who had both coaches there. Like, I know he's moved to focus of LOL, but this is absurd, he should at least stay with the team until they actually find a replacement for him. For me, it just looks like the man has no sense of responsibility; he just jumps ship without a shit in the world.

I for one am glad they got rid of Gerrard. He was nothing like the coach Prime needed. He would play Hearthstone and stream when he should have been preparing for proleague, he didn't make the players any better, he didn't do anything that left concrete results. Sure, he must have done a bunch of negotiating with sponsors behind the curtains, but he sucked at leaving anything that mattered.

I think I'm rambling too much salty hate. To summon it all up, the man was a terrible coach. Im quite sure not many of us will be sorry to see him leave. Maybe he makes Sbenu Sonic Boom a better team, I don't know.
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iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 17:30:08
August 04 2015 15:24 GMT
#63
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
August 04 2015 15:45 GMT
#64
Interesting. I hope this is good news. Mostly I hope this means new recruits.
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eSportsHeaven
Profile Joined August 2014
United States14 Posts
August 04 2015 18:36 GMT
#65
It would be cool if Prime could start winning games again, maybe if they get some financial backing they can develop some ladder talent or something.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 05:09:26
August 05 2015 05:03 GMT
#66
On June 22 2015 18:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 18:51 Noonius wrote:
Prime needs new players and new coaching staff

lol


last time I brought up Prime needing a new coach, people laughed. Well, the joke's on you all who didn't believe
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 06 2015 16:16 GMT
#67
I feel like doing some real talk so here is go.

I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused.

The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since.

Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach.

Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 06 2015 16:32 GMT
#68
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote:
I feel like doing some real talk so here is go.

I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused.

The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since.

Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach.

Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better.


Now I understand Myungsik and Creator, but also Yodas fall.
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 16:45:46
August 06 2015 16:44 GMT
#69
On August 07 2015 01:32 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote:
I feel like doing some real talk so here is go.

I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused.

The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since.

Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach.

Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better.


Now I understand Myungsik and Creator, but also Yodas fall.


basically everyone who was ever in prime that had good moments was because they worked their butts off. Creator was one of the absolute hardest working players I have ever seen, same goes for Maru. they were successful because they worked hard as hell. I remember timers were they would practice for 14-16 hours straight with no breaks. I don't think I ever saw maru or creator do anything other than eat or play starcraft.

they succeeded despite Gerrard. And that's why after so many of their contracts finished, they left prime, because they knew how much of a black hole of players it was.

Gerrard never set (to my knowledge) a proper training schedule. so it was up to each player to find matches and to practice however long they saw fit. again this could have changed in the past while, but i doubt it if Gerrard was still involved. it was a very much dog eat dog environment in the house.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
August 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#70
Good for them for giving it a go but unless they can drag in some players I fear it will mean approximately jack point shit
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 06 2015 16:51 GMT
#71
On August 07 2015 01:44 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:32 Clonester wrote:
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote:
I feel like doing some real talk so here is go.

I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused.

The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since.

Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach.

Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better.


Now I understand Myungsik and Creator, but also Yodas fall.


basically everyone who was ever in prime that had good moments was because they worked their butts off. Creator was one of the absolute hardest working players I have ever seen, same goes for Maru. they were successful because they worked hard as hell. I remember timers were they would practice for 14-16 hours straight with no breaks. I don't think I ever saw maru or creator do anything other than eat or play starcraft.

they succeeded despite Gerrard. And that's why after so many of their contracts finished, they left prime, because they knew how much of a black hole of players it was.

Gerrard never set (to my knowledge) a proper training schedule. so it was up to each player to find matches and to practice however long they saw fit. again this could have changed in the past while, but i doubt it if Gerrard was still involved. it was a very much dog eat dog environment in the house.

So you're telling me there's hope that (1) Prime won't disband after PL and (2) that Prime will actually start doing better?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 06 2015 17:35 GMT
#72
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote:
I feel like doing some real talk so here is go.

I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused.

The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since.

Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach.

Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better.

Thanks for saying this. (Although Gerrard is still the owner, but now managing the Prime LoL team, Sbenu Sonicboom)

I hope the coming of the new coach is a way to greener pastures
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