EPTHowever, Jin Air would be undefeated just like them if it wasn't for Katowice taking key starters. CJ got lucky that week in that they only had to face Prime, so there was no need for herO heroics.
Fantasy Proleague 2015 Round 2 Team Discussion - Page 48
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
icecon
Brazil62 Posts
However, Jin Air would be undefeated just like them if it wasn't for Katowice taking key starters. CJ got lucky that week in that they only had to face Prime, so there was no need for herO heroics. | ||
|
OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 11 2015 14:43 icecon wrote: Don't get me wrong, big props to CJ for how they've done. However, Jin Air would be undefeated just like them if it wasn't for Katowice taking key starters. CJ got lucky that week in that they only had to face Prime, so there was no need for herO heroics. BB Entus would roll over any other eSF A-team/KeSPA B-team though d: | ||
|
sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On April 11 2015 14:43 icecon wrote: Don't get me wrong, big props to CJ for how they've done. However, Jin Air would be undefeated just like them if it wasn't for Katowice taking key starters. CJ got lucky that week in that they only had to face Prime, so there was no need for herO heroics. CJ's B team all had already first team experience. That's why CJ rolled over Prime. Jin Air fielded players who never had lineup experience | ||
|
Elentos
55594 Posts
On April 11 2015 23:51 sharkie wrote: CJ's B team all had already first team experience. That's why CJ rolled over Prime. Jin Air fielded players who never had lineup experience Jin Air fielded sOs, Rogue, WCS champion Pigbaby and GSL finalist Symbol; and they lost in the ace match because DTs. Which is to say, the lineup JAGW fielded didn't have to lose. And obviously CJ didn't always have to win. | ||
|
dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
herO for only 7? Yeah, it's true that his performance this round exceeds expectations even for a player of his caliber, but I don't see how it's justifiable that an Ace level player on a successful and competitive team should cost lower than other Ace players on successful teams. How much better than herO do you expect Maru or INnoVation to perform, if you're giving them 2 extra costs? Trap for 3? When you look at the Jin Air roster, I don't see anybody on that team who clearly outclasses him as a 3rd or 4th man. This isn't some random bench player that sees play like once a season. This is some one who's proven himself to be a solid contributor in Proleague. There were two other 3 cost players if I remembered correctly, and they don't even compare to Trap. soO, Stats and Dream were all undervalued at the beginning of this round IMO, but herO and Trap were the two that particularly stood out as the most obvious picks. | ||
|
Nezgar
Germany535 Posts
Besides: It is expected that a player gains 3-4 times the points of his cost. I don't think it was unreasonable to assume that herO would only gain 21-28 points this round. In fact ByuL, who was priced at 7 points as well, gained more points than herO last round. Trap went 1-1 last round and was competing against Cure (5-2) and Rogue (4-2), two more accomplished players, for the 3rd/4th slot on JAGW. Cure and Rogue both had better stats than their team's two top dogs, sOs and Maru, and played more combined ace matches. With an expected 4-5 team wins and maybe 1 individual win (like last round) it was reasonable to expect him to gain ~8-10 points which would mean a 3 point cost. If anything you could argue that a fair amount of players where overpriced instead (Life and Inno at 9, Bbyong and Dark at 8, etc.). With prizes being mostly based on recent performance it's always hard to anticipate which players will perform well in the upcoming round. herO playing 4-3 or 7-0 makes a huge difference in terms of points or price but it's not unreasonable to predict him playing either way any given day. | ||
|
TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
On April 12 2015 02:30 dyDrawer wrote: Looking back there were obviously some pretty undervalued players at the beginning of the round. herO for only 7? Yeah, it's true that his performance this round exceeds expectations even for a player of his caliber, but I don't see how it's justifiable that an Ace level player on a successful and competitive team should cost lower than other Ace players on successful teams. How much better than herO do you expect Maru or INnoVation to perform, if you're giving them 2 extra costs? Trap for 3? When you look at the Jin Air roster, I don't see anybody on that team who clearly outclasses him as a 3rd or 4th man. This isn't some random bench player that sees play like once a season. This is some one who's proven himself to be a solid contributor in Proleague. There were two other 3 cost players if I remembered correctly, and they don't even compare to Trap. soO, Stats and Dream were all undervalued at the beginning of this round IMO, but herO and Trap were the two that particularly stood out as the most obvious picks. Trap was a little too cheap, but he kind of was a random player for Jin Air til his PL and IEM performances. It was just really good timing. But before he joined, nobody could have guessed he'd go on such a tear. He wasn't a solid contributor to Proleague until AFTER this round started homie... | ||
|
OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
| ||
|
Swoopae
Australia339 Posts
| ||
|
icecon
Brazil62 Posts
| ||
|
Silvana
3713 Posts
| ||
|
rotta
5649 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:00 Silvana wrote: BrAvO killing meeeeeee T_T Me too, I was struggling over my anti trade for quite a while and chose to get rid of Solar instead. | ||
|
OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:00 Silvana wrote: BrAvO killing meeeeeee T_T DIE DIE DIE :D | ||
|
Silvana
3713 Posts
but I have Leenock on my main so you better be praying  edit: *sigh* | ||
|
OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 13 2015 22:22 Silvana wrote: but I have Leenock on my main so you better be praying That was close d: | ||
|
Silvana
3713 Posts
| ||
|
IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
| ||
|
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On April 13 2015 21:14 rotta wrote: Me too, I was struggling over my anti trade for quite a while and chose to get rid of Solar instead. I got rid of Pet instead of Bravo. Yeah after the really great first season I am experiencing the typical sophomore slump. Well, I guess it's ok if I finish in the top 5% or top-100 even, which kinda seems like a miracle atm. Edit. Oh yeah and also traded Panic for Leenock. Maybe Panic will win now haha. Edit2. HAHA | ||
|
Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Standings.php?r=23&g=3815 :p | ||
|
OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 14 2015 02:43 Silvana wrote: well, that didn't quite hit the mark -.- GG I acknowledge my defeat. | ||
| ||
