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Fantasy Proleague 2015 Round 1 - Page 4

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 16:51 GMT
#61
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.
AdministratorBreak the chains
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
December 20 2014 16:53 GMT
#62
who cares if the value is correct or off by a bit. its the same rules for everyone participating.
~
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 20 2014 16:58 GMT
#63
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~
RIP MKP
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 20 2014 17:01 GMT
#64
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 17:03 GMT
#65
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Which is why I didn't bother with finding out in the first place, duh
AdministratorBreak the chains
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
December 20 2014 17:04 GMT
#66
On December 21 2014 02:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Which is why I didn't bother with finding out in the first place, duh



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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#67
can't do an all CJ team again because byul is too expensive ;;
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
December 20 2014 20:45 GMT
#68
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Why? If your model is any good it should have good predictive power of the results for the season whether people know about it or not.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
December 20 2014 21:05 GMT
#69
AYYY :D

Wow, new banner!
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 21:24 GMT
#70
On December 21 2014 05:45 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Why? If your model is any good it should have good predictive power of the results for the season whether people know about it or not.


Because whether or not that's actually true it takes away part of the fun in FPL. You dont need to know the model to play and I dont think any fantasy league hands the information out freely because there are no real advantages to doing so
AdministratorBreak the chains
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 20 2014 21:34 GMT
#71
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


I think its harder than some, easier than others.

If making an anti-team is harder, it also means making a good main team is easier. Always a trade-off.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#72
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
December 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#73
On December 21 2014 06:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!


It's the best anti team, Stork is a player coach and had at best a 40% win ratio last time Taeja will be travelling and Seed won't be always fielded and will struggle with 40% win ratio or more seems like a good anti team.
Problem is RoRo has gone and he won't be train wrecking peoples FPL so more challengers
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 20 2014 21:58 GMT
#74
On December 21 2014 06:52 Ovid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 06:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!


It's the best anti team, Stork is a player coach and had at best a 40% win ratio last time Taeja will be travelling and Seed won't be always fielded and will struggle with 40% win ratio or more seems like a good anti team.
Problem is RoRo has gone and he won't be train wrecking peoples FPL so more challengers

Stork went 12-12 last season
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
December 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#75
On December 21 2014 06:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


I think its harder than some, easier than others.

If making an anti-team is harder, it also means making a good main team is easier. Always a trade-off.


Well, I counted and IIRC top 19 of players in points all play in the first playday. The most expensive player that doesn't play is Taeja who is worth 5.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 23:21:27
December 20 2014 23:20 GMT
#76
ups, wrong thread.

Life is 7/9, pretty amusing.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
December 21 2014 05:46 GMT
#77
Team Pashun gonnawreck yall
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 21 2014 06:43 GMT
#78
T minus and counting.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 16:25:43
December 21 2014 06:56 GMT
#79
[wrong thread, me]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
December 21 2014 12:19 GMT
#80
Who will win? Hush (Bong) or eMotion? It's so tempting to pick one of those players.
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