• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:20
CEST 02:20
KST 09:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202519Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced33BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Serral wins EWC 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Shield Battery Server New Patch [G] Progamer Settings StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 645 users

Fantasy Proleague 2015 Round 1 - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
376 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 17 18 19 Next All
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 16:51 GMT
#61
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.
AdministratorBreak the chains
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
December 20 2014 16:53 GMT
#62
who cares if the value is correct or off by a bit. its the same rules for everyone participating.
~
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 20 2014 16:58 GMT
#63
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~
RIP MKP
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 20 2014 17:01 GMT
#64
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 17:03 GMT
#65
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Which is why I didn't bother with finding out in the first place, duh
AdministratorBreak the chains
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
December 20 2014 17:04 GMT
#66
On December 21 2014 02:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Which is why I didn't bother with finding out in the first place, duh



StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
December 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#67
can't do an all CJ team again because byul is too expensive ;;
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
December 20 2014 20:45 GMT
#68
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Why? If your model is any good it should have good predictive power of the results for the season whether people know about it or not.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
December 20 2014 21:05 GMT
#69
AYYY :D

Wow, new banner!
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 21:24 GMT
#70
On December 21 2014 05:45 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:01 lichter wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:51 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:45 ZenithM wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".


I don't have the formula or I would have told you how it works, but I saw the spreadsheet and unless you can measure how popular a player to the exactness of 10 decimals that's not how it's calculated. It's not a coincidence that Flash is valued so highly after being one of the most valuable players two seasons in a row, though, so if I had to make an educated guess I'd say that has something to do with it.


explaining the values for fantasy leagues breaks the league, dummy

(so anyone who's seen it, talk about it at your own peril)


Why? If your model is any good it should have good predictive power of the results for the season whether people know about it or not.


Because whether or not that's actually true it takes away part of the fun in FPL. You dont need to know the model to play and I dont think any fantasy league hands the information out freely because there are no real advantages to doing so
AdministratorBreak the chains
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 20 2014 21:34 GMT
#71
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


I think its harder than some, easier than others.

If making an anti-team is harder, it also means making a good main team is easier. Always a trade-off.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#72
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
December 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#73
On December 21 2014 06:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!


It's the best anti team, Stork is a player coach and had at best a 40% win ratio last time Taeja will be travelling and Seed won't be always fielded and will struggle with 40% win ratio or more seems like a good anti team.
Problem is RoRo has gone and he won't be train wrecking peoples FPL so more challengers
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 20 2014 21:58 GMT
#74
On December 21 2014 06:52 Ovid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 06:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


Get on the Taeja/Seed/Stork anti train!


It's the best anti team, Stork is a player coach and had at best a 40% win ratio last time Taeja will be travelling and Seed won't be always fielded and will struggle with 40% win ratio or more seems like a good anti team.
Problem is RoRo has gone and he won't be train wrecking peoples FPL so more challengers

Stork went 12-12 last season
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
December 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#75
On December 21 2014 06:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:58 shid0x wrote:
Is it just me or is this really impossible to make a decent anti team this season ?

Every pick feels like a good player ~_~


I think its harder than some, easier than others.

If making an anti-team is harder, it also means making a good main team is easier. Always a trade-off.


Well, I counted and IIRC top 19 of players in points all play in the first playday. The most expensive player that doesn't play is Taeja who is worth 5.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 23:21:27
December 20 2014 23:20 GMT
#76
ups, wrong thread.

Life is 7/9, pretty amusing.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
December 21 2014 05:46 GMT
#77
Team Pashun gonnawreck yall
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 21 2014 06:43 GMT
#78
T minus and counting.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 16:25:43
December 21 2014 06:56 GMT
#79
[wrong thread, me]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
December 21 2014 12:19 GMT
#80
Who will win? Hush (Bong) or eMotion? It's so tempting to pick one of those players.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#42
CranKy Ducklings71
davetesta68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 155
CosmosSc2 60
Ketroc 39
Vindicta 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 610
NaDa 67
Aegong 25
Dota 2
capcasts621
NeuroSwarm102
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1962
Stewie2K787
flusha595
taco 223
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox571
AZ_Axe76
Other Games
summit1g13428
Grubby2635
Day[9].tv809
shahzam809
ViBE203
C9.Mang0195
Maynarde183
Trikslyr40
ROOTCatZ22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1738
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH316
• Hupsaiya 56
• RyuSc2 41
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift7199
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1240
• Shiphtur531
Other Games
• Scarra1496
• Day9tv809
Upcoming Events
OSC
12h 10m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15h 40m
The PondCast
1d 9h
Online Event
1d 15h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.