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Fantasy Proleague 2015 Round 1 - Page 3

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d3ciduous
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 11:18:24
December 20 2014 11:12 GMT
#41
Can't wait for Monday!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 12:11:34
December 20 2014 12:10 GMT
#42
Yay I'm gonna be in time this time :D
Neosteel Enthusiast
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 12:30:44
December 20 2014 12:29 GMT
#43
On December 20 2014 19:03 Blargh wrote:
Can someone tell me if Anti-Team scoring follows the exact same rules as Main-Team but just the points subtract against you? For instance, let's assume I have TerrOr on my Anti, and he loses (as expected!), and his team loses. This would mean that he does not affect my score (0 points) for that week, because he gets +1 for being played, and -1 for losing, right?

So if I picked someone like Flash on my Anti, and he goes 12-12 for instance... Does that mean he would (ignoring all the other misc. bonuses) get 24 points for showing up, 24 for winning 12 matches, -12 for losing 12 matches for a net of 36 points against me??

Or is it like...
Flash goes 12-12 (same scenario), since he's on my Anti-team, he would only get 12 points for winning, 24 points for showing up, and -24 points for losing for a net of 12 points against me?

I'm guessing it's the first one, but I gotta know for FPL optimization.

OR...
Do I get + points for my Anti player being fielded??? This is how I think it should be, otherwise it'd be best to just pick players you don't think will ever get played (since it'd be essentially impossible for a player on your anti to benefit you). So, players like Taeja and Stork are the best, since it's less likely they will be fielded than other players, minimizing the points for being played?

If I am thinking about it correctly, there is redundancy in the score system. There is no point in having the +1 for appearance or +1 for ace appearance when you could just make the points for wins/losses higher/lower. So, instead of getting 2 points for a win, you get 3 points for a win. Instead of -1 point for a loss, you get 0 points for a loss. Same for ace match -- instead of 3 for a win, it's 4 for a win; instead of -2 for a loss, it's -1... OP / TeamLiquid / Whoever should change that because it just makes it more confusing.

But you can also earn points for people showing up/ getting fielded even if they don't get to actually play their match because the team wins 3-0 or something.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
December 20 2014 12:49 GMT
#44
On December 20 2014 14:56 TT1 wrote:
hory shiet myungsik is 6 pts, well there goes my sleeper pick

Yeah a few surprise overpriced and under valued ones. I gotta say MKP appears overpriced, but has high value cause we know he will play a lot.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
December 20 2014 12:57 GMT
#45
I GOT SAN DREAM DARK SOS YALL ARE FUUUUCCKKKKEEDDDS
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
December 20 2014 12:58 GMT
#46
On December 20 2014 21:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 14:56 TT1 wrote:
hory shiet myungsik is 6 pts, well there goes my sleeper pick

Yeah a few surprise overpriced and under valued ones. I gotta say MKP appears overpriced, but has high value cause we know he will play a lot.

Myungsik at 6 pissed me off but at least I got San dark dream
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 20 2014 13:06 GMT
#47
for the life of me, I don't understand how is flash more expensive than zest...
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
December 20 2014 13:10 GMT
#48
On December 20 2014 22:06 esdf wrote:
for the life of me, I don't understand how is flash more expensive than zest...


Flash is actually pretty darn good most of the time in SPL for some reason.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 20 2014 13:12 GMT
#49
Every time I sign up for FPL I think "this time I will be serious about this", and everytime I suck first week and think "SCREW IT!"

My guess is that the same thing will happen this time :D Good luck everyone!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 13:20:09
December 20 2014 13:19 GMT
#50
On December 20 2014 22:06 esdf wrote:
for the life of me, I don't understand how is flash more expensive than zest...


flash had more wins than zest last season, and I believe he also had a higher win percentage. and at no point during that season was he considered a better overall player than zest. the season before he finished with the most wins despite having zero individual league success. he just wins in proleague.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 20 2014 13:31 GMT
#51
lol Terror for 2 points
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 20 2014 13:37 GMT
#52
On December 20 2014 21:57 Cricketer12 wrote:
I GOT SAN DREAM DARK SOS YALL ARE FUUUUCCKKKKEEDDDS

don't think it's smart to pick skt zergs :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 13:42:54
December 20 2014 13:42 GMT
#53
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 20 2014 13:56 GMT
#54
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 20 2014 13:57 GMT
#55
win without trading

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why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 13:59:50
December 20 2014 13:59 GMT
#56
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...
kyomezzo
Profile Joined February 2014
57 Posts
December 20 2014 16:32 GMT
#57
ZergFaith

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2014 16:34 GMT
#58
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.
AdministratorBreak the chains
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 16:47:59
December 20 2014 16:45 GMT
#59
On December 21 2014 01:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 22:59 ZenithM wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:56 lichter wrote:
On December 20 2014 22:42 ZenithM wrote:
Flash at 9? How are these costs determined?
Last Proleague results it is then?


then mkp would be worth a 3 and life a 2

Yep, that's what I thought. So what is it? General "hype" and "popularity"? Doesn't make much sense, but I'll play by the rules :D. Skillwise it's clear to me that Flash is not a 9 at least...


Mostly math.

Thank goodness I don't put "because mostly math" in my research papers.
No but seriously, any details? At least the criteria? I don't really care how they're combined. ELO/Aligulac? Past Proleague results? Recent winrates? Recent top finishes? Because it really seems to me that it's "People like MarineKing, let's put him at 7, and people REALLY like Flash, so let's put him at 9".
FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
December 20 2014 16:46 GMT
#60
Never done this before so I'll see how this goes...
Fanatics

Main Team
2 (Z)DeParture
3 (P)HerO
9 (T)INnoVation
3 (Z)Losira
7 (T)MarineKing (captain)
3 (P)Trap
3 MVP

Anti Team
5 (P)Classic
7 (P)Dear
7 (Z)soO
INnoVation is the GOAT!
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