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WCS 2015: Details on Points, Prizes, and Residency - Page 2

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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
November 25 2014 21:03 GMT
#21
Does anyone know if the two Korean tournaments are independent leagues? Like if a player plays in GSL, is he locked in the GSL tournament and cannot play in SPOTV?
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 25 2014 21:04 GMT
#22
On November 26 2014 06:03 Brutaxilos wrote:
Does anyone know if the two Korean tournaments are independent leagues? Like if a player plays in GSL, is he locked in the GSL tournament and cannot play in SPOTV?

Everyone can play both.
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
November 25 2014 21:06 GMT
#23
Source: http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-2015-details-on-points-prizes-and-residency (for reference)
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ZiNKO
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
23 Posts
November 25 2014 21:09 GMT
#24
I like that the money is more spread out and not so top heavy
Hassan_RO
Profile Joined May 2012
Romania77 Posts
November 25 2014 21:13 GMT
#25
Well, the bonus money for WCS premier (European point of view) is huge! just making it into challenger, 2k$? and 4.5K$ for 17th-32nd? Basically it tailors very well to the European scene, a lot of people that play from home and can make a LOT of money without any travelling costs and without beating any Koreans (afaik, 4.5K-5K$ is a semifinal-worthy prize in some non-WCS LAN's.......). I don't know where this leaves American players though, losing their own region and fighting European players for slots is going to be tough. Also, i dont know how the Asian players previously grouped with AM will feel, how will the lag be when a chinese/taiwanese/SEA guy will play a European?

Also all the bashing that the community did regarding "korea doesn't have enough tournaments, give Koreans in Korea more WCS points etc" worked, now Koreans are spolied and even those without the means to go abroad can have 2 major leagues (+weeklys like Olimo etc) where they can prove their worth. This is also positive in the fact that there isn't that much of a temptation for Koreans to fill up the other servers in search of easy money.

Finally i want to agree with someone above, for Korean powerhouse (KESPA) teams, it is heaven on earth. They can rack in the money from the KR tournaments, while still sending 1-2 star players to collect from worldwide LANs......
But the opposite can also be true....if any foreign team has the balls and the money to support a big pro-player living in Korea (hello mYi.Rain!!) they can also rack in some serious prize $$ from the double-leagues..

Anyway, in general very good moves imho.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 25 2014 21:13 GMT
#26
that forgg specific rule though
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
November 25 2014 21:16 GMT
#27
No news on PL points?
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
November 25 2014 21:18 GMT
#28
On November 26 2014 05:37 hewo wrote:
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In our original announcement, we stated that players must have a valid residency visa (i.e. work visa, athlete visa, student visa) in order to compete in a region’s WCS Challenger. While that is true for the vast majority of players, we will be waiving the requirement for players who can demonstrate consistent residency in a region starting on or before January 1, 2013.


Not surprised. So I guess alot of the EU koreans will remain, and the region will benefit from this if we concider the level on the ladder, but prize money will disappear to KR again...


I doubt any Koreans except ForGG qualify for this rule since you have had to be a resident as of January 1 2013 or earlier. Most Koreans never resided in Europe or AM at all, they just flew in for WCS AM/EU. Even MC was still playing in Code S as of January 2013.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 25 2014 21:20 GMT
#29
Exception for Long-Standing Residency

In our original announcement, we stated that players must have a valid residency visa (i.e. work visa, athlete visa, student visa) in order to compete in a region’s WCS Challenger. While that is true for the vast majority of players, we will be waiving the requirement for players who can demonstrate consistent residency in a region starting on or before January 1, 2013.


So in other words, for no players whatsoever?
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
November 25 2014 21:23 GMT
#30
On November 26 2014 06:20 Elite_ wrote:
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Exception for Long-Standing Residency

In our original announcement, we stated that players must have a valid residency visa (i.e. work visa, athlete visa, student visa) in order to compete in a region’s WCS Challenger. While that is true for the vast majority of players, we will be waiving the requirement for players who can demonstrate consistent residency in a region starting on or before January 1, 2013.


So in other words, for no players whatsoever?


It benefits ForGG.


Also, State can participate in WCS Foreigner now if he wanted to given that he's American :D
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 25 2014 21:29 GMT
#31
Oh I never knew you have to use the ladder map pool in order to award WCS points for your tournament. Hmm I wonder if ProLeague will be Ladder maps as well now, kinda was the only selling point it had for me.
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
November 25 2014 21:29 GMT
#32
On November 26 2014 05:37 Boucot wrote:
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On November 26 2014 05:36 klipik12 wrote:
Bit disappointed by the prize distribution on WCS. I'm okay with giving more to ro32 players but I would have wanted Challengers to get more as well. Oh well.

Also, WCS Global events in 2014 already? Whaaaaaaat? :U

Challengers were getting 600 $ this season and 2,000 $ next year...


Okay nvm, wow I'm dumb. Was looking at points instead of $$... >.<
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 25 2014 21:30 GMT
#33
On November 26 2014 06:16 Heartland wrote:
No news on PL points?


My guess is the top proleague players will get invites to KesPA cup, and with 3 KesPA cups this year, doing well in proleague is more important.

And proleague did make a difference this year. Without the 800 points from KesPA cup, which he was invited to because of PL, herO would not have gone to Blizzcon.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
November 25 2014 21:38 GMT
#34
Thanks for saving ForGG, Blizzard. Much appreciated.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
November 25 2014 21:39 GMT
#35
On November 26 2014 06:30 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 06:16 Heartland wrote:
No news on PL points?


My guess is the top proleague players will get invites to KesPA cup, and with 3 KesPA cups this year, doing well in proleague is more important.

And proleague did make a difference this year. Without the 800 points from KesPA cup, which he was invited to because of PL, herO would not have gone to Blizzcon.


Hopefully this is the kind of thing they do, giving points for performing in a team league, for an individual system is...spotty
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
November 25 2014 21:41 GMT
#36
Awesome for forGG, also the pricepool is a lot of money!
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 21:42:49
November 25 2014 21:41 GMT
#37
Can the 'consistent residency' thing include the guys at the GEM house too?

EDIT. Reading better I suppose it was after January 1, 2013...
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
November 25 2014 21:52 GMT
#38
That's very decent money for top32 WCS, I wonder how hard the competition will be
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
November 25 2014 21:56 GMT
#39
On November 26 2014 06:52 Nerchio wrote:
That's very decent money for top32 WCS, I wonder how hard the competition will be


Well now we know at the very least that a foreigner will need to take out either Polt or ForGG or viOLet (or maybe even all three if they don't play each other!) so it won't be that easy to win.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 25 2014 21:57 GMT
#40
On November 26 2014 06:56 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 06:52 Nerchio wrote:
That's very decent money for top32 WCS, I wonder how hard the competition will be


Well now we know at the very least that a foreigner will need to take out either Polt or ForGG or viOLet (or maybe even all three if they don't play each other!) so it won't be that easy to win.


violet really isn't as scary as he used to be... Polt and ForGG still pose a significant threat though
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