EPTWCS 2015: Details on Points, Prizes, and Residency - Page 5
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Isarios
United States153 Posts
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On November 26 2014 07:31 Charoisaur wrote: Don't really like that certain koreans are allowed to participate in wcs premier league while others are not. I liked the system of this year with koreans integrating so well in the foreign scene although it was a bit unfortunate for the foreign players. The koreans being forced back to korea (with a far bigger scene than now) while having a full foreigner tournament would be quite okay too, but having a foreigner tournament with 2-3 koreans is dumb. Well, you can't really force someone back to Korea if he has been living in EU/NA for more than 2 years. They got ridnof the "region hoppers", who just travelled to the offline section of the WCS tournaments and I think that's the right decision. Now there will only be players in WCS EU/NA who actually LIVE there for quite some time. And ofc you cannot force someone like Polt back to Korea, as he's studying in the USA xD He'll win everythig there now, most likely, which sucks, but he just cannot possibly go back to Korea. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On November 26 2014 12:05 Yakikorosu wrote: Yeah, StarDust may qualify. Liquipedia has him joining mYi in May 2013, but he was on LighT since late 2012, and I think I remember reading somewhere (maybe in his Blizzcon preview?) that he moved to the U.S. when he was on LighT? I just don't know enough about him since he was pretty under the radar until he won that DreamHack in June 2013. He was living with Xeris when he was on LighT and was in the US, as far as I can tell (Xeris thanked him for being an awesome roommate when LighT shut down (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/401909-light-closing-down), and ROOTCaliber said he would be living in the US in a similar arrangement to Golden (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/358461-m18m-now-sson-joins-light-esports?page=4#61). On that basis, he was in the US from around September 2012 probably, and then was in Europe after that with mYi from May '13 or so. That should qualify him under the pre-Jan '13 requirement for living outside Korea, since even if he went back to Korea from March '13 to May '13, that shouldn't really be meaningful since he was outside Korea for 26 of 28 months worst-case. Only question is whether US vs Europe will count against him, but that would be harsh given it was due to his team shutting down, and the Europe and US WCS is now one. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On November 26 2014 21:58 Lonyo wrote: He was living with Xeris when he was on LighT and was in the US, as far as I can tell (Xeris thanked him for being an awesome roommate when LighT shut down (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/401909-light-closing-down), and ROOTCaliber said he would be living in the US in a similar arrangement to Golden (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/358461-m18m-now-sson-joins-light-esports?page=4#61). On that basis, he was in the US from around September 2012 probably, and then was in Europe after that with mYi from May '13 or so. That should qualify him under the pre-Jan '13 requirement for living outside Korea, since even if he went back to Korea from March '13 to May '13, that shouldn't really be meaningful since he was outside Korea for 26 of 28 months worst-case. The requirement isn't for "living outside Korea" though, it's "players who can demonstrate consistent residency in a region starting on or before January 1, 2013." I don't know if hopping continents qualifies as "consistent residency in a region." | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 26 2014 22:03 Thax wrote: The requirement isn't for "living outside Korea" though, it's "players who can demonstrate consistent residency in a region starting on or before January 1, 2013." I don't know if hopping continents qualifies as "consistent residency in a region." Yes, I think too that Stardust doesn't meet the requirements because Blizzard probably considers AM and EU as two different regions. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Pretty harsh if he gets fucked over because a team closed. Or was he supposed to get a new team only in the US? He joined a team, stayed with it until it closed, then went to another team, and has remained with that team for the last 18 months. Hardly hopping. Not to mention, his first team closed a month before WCS was even announced. There was no "region" to be resident in. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 26 2014 18:37 OtherWorld wrote: Well tbf it's not really Blizzard doing that. We have to thank SpoTV here more than Blizz. Euh, to me it looks like Blizzard just took their money for korea and asked spotv to create a second league. GSL now gets less money and spotv gets what was left. I would say Blizzard pays all of that?! | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:10 The_Red_Viper wrote: Euh, to me it looks like Blizzard just took their money for korea and asked spotv to create a second league. GSL now gets less money and spotv gets what was left. I would say Blizzard pays all of that?! Hmm I hadn't considered that. It seems true. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I wonder if you have to place in both leagues now to make as much money as before (say ro32/16) Or even qualifier | ||
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Dingodile
4137 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:15 OtherWorld wrote: Hmm I hadn't considered that. It seems true. I dont know who paid GSL before WCS, but since WCS 2013 (EU/US/KR) Blizzard pays everything (plus flights and accomodations). The main reason for that second tournament are wcs points for korea players that wont/dont/rarely go foreigner tournaments. I definitely prefer two 25k tournaments than one 50k tournament. | ||
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sitromit
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:26 sitromit wrote: So IEM San Jose gives 2015 WCS points but Dreamhack Winter doesn't? Dreamhack winter has too many invites I believe to qualify. | ||
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LeviathanDK
Denmark87 Posts
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Dingodile
4137 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Dreamhack winter has too many invites I believe to qualify. No Invites but all have qualified (top4 from each DH this year). | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:33 Dingodile wrote: No Invites but all have qualified (top4 from each DH this year). IDK then. | ||
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cpower
228 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:41 cpower wrote: great, finally no JD in blizzcon now. He will be at Blizzcon still  These haters man :D | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 27 2014 00:44 The_Red_Viper wrote: He will be at Blizzcon still These haters man :D Haters can be correct. | ||
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