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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On July 21 2014 04:21 OminouS wrote: Taeja is so consistant it's scary. Bonjwa is hard to call with so many tournaments around be he is probably the closest to a SC2 one we ever had. uh MVP? | ||
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On July 21 2014 02:40 phantomfive wrote: Who is better? Zest? Doesn't look like it. Innovation? Do you remember this epic series (especially the last game)? Jaedong? Soo, soulkey, herO, maru are at least on his level based on the games I have seen. Zest played way below his level for some reason ( really bad decisions that you cannot really explain) but in general would say he is up there aswell. Not sure why you bring up jd and inno as of now. They are not as good as taeja and those I listed although Inno reached scary peaks of dominance and jaedong as moments of perfect play here and there but nothing consistent. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
I dont have stats for Mvp but i'm pretty sure his latter 2011-2012 run can rival most of those except for Flash. As for Taeja he is consistent as hell, but he never had the entire scene under his shadow like Mvp. Bonjwa is not about consistency, its about pure domination. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3340 Posts
On July 21 2014 05:14 Morbidius wrote: Look at this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/357124-statistical-bonjwa-theory-the-history-of-bw I dont have stats for Mvp but i'm pretty sure his latter 2011-2012 run can rival most of those except for Flash. As for Taeja he is consistent as hell, but he never had the entire scene under his shadow like Mvp. Bonjwa is not about consistency, its about pure domination. Would be interesting to see such statistics, but in SC2. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
Esp. in game 6 - I really wondered if I had misread the end score because Solar seemed to be in such a dominant position | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 21 2014 05:34 ejozl wrote: Would be interesting to see such statistics, but in SC2. http://aligulac.com/records/history/ You can play with that. Mvp was definitly ahead of everyone by far in 2011/2012 | ||
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
On July 20 2014 23:53 Disarmed wrote: he said in an IEM interview that he is gonna do his military service at the end of the year Hard to imagine Taeja in the military. How is he going to do pushups and lift heavy objects when typing at a computer is a challenge for him? With this tournament win, Taeja has finally overtaken friend/rival HerO as the highest earning Liquid player. It seems a long time ago that HerO was the undisputed #1 on Liquid, with vastly higher tournament winnings and dominating Taeja whenever they met (invariably in finals.) Taeja "just" needs to win a couple more 10K tournaments (and change) to push him to the 5th highest earning player of all time (also assuming the goalposts don't move.) I make that sound so trivial but Taeja seems to take these tournaments as free money at this point, like passing Go on a monopoly board. | ||
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movac
Canada494 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On July 21 2014 06:53 movac wrote: I'm watching the ro16 VODS now. Was the tournament only offline starting from the ro8? No it was a lan. Everything was played offline | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
Totally worth it. Best final i've seen in a while. Knowing the result beforehand didn't even matter  | ||
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movac
Canada494 Posts
On July 21 2014 06:56 Faust852 wrote: No it was a lan. Everything was played offline yeah makes sense, I guess it wasn't played on stage with a live audience until ro8. | ||
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
But he hasn't done enough to be considered better all-time than the WoL greats of MVP, MC and Nestea yet. All those guys won multiple GSLs. MVP alone had four. MVP is the best player SC2 has seen and the closest thing to a bonjwa but TaeJa is the best Hots player imo. | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1412 Posts
On July 21 2014 04:34 Karpfen wrote: Soo, soulkey, herO, maru are at least on his level based on the games I have seen. Zest played way below his level for some reason ( really bad decisions that you cannot really explain) but in general would say he is up there aswell. Not sure why you bring up jd and inno as of now. They are not as good as taeja and those I listed although Inno reached scary peaks of dominance and jaedong as moments of perfect play here and there but nothing consistent. soulkey wasn't convincing in months. hero burnt his 3 month stride. maru and soo i will agree with though. | ||
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caznitch
Canada645 Posts
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Salient
United States876 Posts
On July 21 2014 08:45 Radicalness wrote: TaeJa is definitely the best player in the Hots era. But he hasn't done enough to be considered better all-time than the WoL greats of MVP, MC and Nestea yet. All those guys won multiple GSLs. MVP alone had four. MVP is the best player SC2 has seen and the closest thing to a bonjwa but TaeJa is the best Hots player imo. MC is especially impressive in terms of consistency. He picks up so many 2-4th place finishes even when he doesn't win. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
Gratz to him, this win is much more convincing than HSC or Dreamhack summer, Zest and Solar are really worthy opponents, no matter if Zest is in good shape or not 3-0 is just huge... | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On July 21 2014 12:51 caznitch wrote: Game 6 will be remembered as one of the best holds in sc2 history I think. Maru vs effort never forget! | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On July 21 2014 08:45 Radicalness wrote: TaeJa is definitely the best player in the Hots era. But he hasn't done enough to be considered better all-time than the WoL greats of MVP, MC and Nestea yet. All those guys won multiple GSLs. MVP alone had four. MVP is the best player SC2 has seen and the closest thing to a bonjwa but TaeJa is the best Hots player imo. Its a little unfair to use that comparison though because there was a GSL every month at that point and now there is one every 3 months. | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
somehow there are 3 Jaedong's in one sentence. | ||
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