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Proleague Round 3 Retrospective

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Proleague Round 3 Retrospective

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May 26th, 2014 14:33 GMT
SKPlanet PRoleague

Round 3 Playoffs



SKT Win Round 3
SKT 4 - 2 CJ

Ending Round 3
Some closing thoughts

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Videos on Youtube

R3 Playoffs Review

By: Waxangel

At the end of it all, there was no heartwarming triumph for the underdogs. For all of the heroics they exhibited in the first two matches of the Round 3 playoffs, CJ Entus could not overcome the odds in the finals. Having dominated the Round 3 regular season and earned the #1 seed going into the playoffs, SK Telecom T1 took care of business in the grand finals.

With (Z)Soulkey and (P)Classic – SKT's two major signings before the start of the 2014 season – taking two wins a piece, SKT clinched the Round 3 championship. (T)Bbyong helped CJ save face with two impressive victories of his own, but found himself receiving no help as his team suffered a 2-4 loss.

4

SK Telecom T1

(Z)Soulkey < Merry Go Round LE > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)Soulkey < Frost LE > (P)herO
(Z)Soulkey < Outboxer > (T)Bbyong
(P)PartinG < Habitation Station LE > (T)Bbyong
(P)Classic < Maze > (T)Bbyong
(P)Classic < King Sejong Station LE > (Z)Hydra
2

CJ Entus


The finals started off with (Z)Soulkey taking two easy victories in matches where CJ Entus could do nothing right. Soulkey ran circles around (Z)EffOrt in game one, making his opponent's hatch-first expand look foolish with a fast spawning pool build. (P)herO looked to recover a point after EffOrt's weak showing, but only ended up serving up another win on a platter for SKT. Exhibiting sloppy micro in losing several phoenixes and his mothership core, herO was powerless to defend against a simple hydra-ling attacks from Soulkey.

After a demoralizing 0-2 start, CJ looked to (T)Bbyong – the hero of the KT Rolster series – to rekindle their hopes. Bbyong responded admirably to the pressure, punishing Soulkey's with an piercing marine-medivac-hellbat timing (perhaps a preview of the tactics to come in the latest balance patch?).

SKT looked to PvT specialist (P)PartinG to stop the CJ comeback, but their plan backfired on them as they discovered that Bbyong was an even more dangerous TvP expert. Facing Bbyong's patented gold-float build on Habitation Station, PartinG came the closest out of any player to stopping the deadly 1-base all-in. However, the classic mistake of powering a production facility with just one pylon proved to be fatal, as Bbyong was able to delay PartinG's colossus for just long enough to set up the game ending push.

Bbyong's may have killed another Protoss yet if not for the next map: Maze. With Maze almost universally considered to be a Protoss map, it was no surprise to see (P)Classic come out next for SKT. Despite allowing Bbyong a hidden base and suffering plenty of damage from drops, Classic was able to patiently put together an unstoppable army and force the GG out of Bbyong.

With few options left, CJ Entus sent out the veteran (Z)Hydra as their final player. Although having a respectable record in Proleague and GSL, it seemed like Hydra would need a minor miracle in order to take out two more of SKT's stars. Unfortunately for CJ, it turned out they had used up all their miracles against Jin Air and KT Rolster.

A bizarre cannon rush vs. proxy hatch start seemed to give Classic a heavy advantage, but Hydra played well to come back and force a longer game on Sejong Station. No matter to Classic – he was as comfortable defeating Hydra slowly as he was beating him quickly. Out-maneuvering Hydra's swarm hosts with his mobile forces, Classic was able to keep Hydra off balance until he was finally confident enough to meet him in the field. With an overwhelming army of colossi, templar, archons, and void rays, Classic incinerated Hydra's forces and received the final GG.

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Farewell To Round 3

by Waxangel

With the Round 3 playoffs over, it's time to look back on what we learned. Or maybe we didn't learn anything. Whatever.

SK Telecom Show Up Five Months Late


Finally, SK Telecom T1 played like the team they were supposed to be. They dominated the Round 3 group stage with a 6-1 (+14 in maps) record, the best of any team had achieved in the three rounds. Entering the playoffs with a direct seed into the finals, SKT went on to take an easy 4-2 win against CJ to clinch the Round 3 championship. Even when Bbyong took two games to tie the score 2-2, SKT hardly looked troubled. CJ had been forced to use all their best players early, while SKT still had two ace class players left in the wings. The results now match the projections on paper: SKT is by far the best team in Proleague.

Why did it take them so long to live up to expectations? When SKT added new signings Soulkey and Classic to their existing core of Rain, PartinG and soO, it wasn't an exaggeration to say they had assembled the most powerful team in StarCraft 2 history. Yet, their first two rounds were full of disappointments. They ended the Round 1 group stage with a mere 5-2 (+6 in maps) record – far below what their roster should have been capable of. The round then ended in embarrassment for SKT, as they were all-killed by Zest in the playoffs.

SKT's farcical Round 1 performance did not lead to a better showing Round 2. Instead, SKT somehow played even worse. Going 3-4 and missing the playoffs entirely, the team of champions suffered utter humiliation.

Clearly, something major happened between Rounds 2 and 3 to snap SKT out of their dazed state. The answer might be as simple as SKT being so shamed by Round 2, they finally found the motivation to wake the f*** up. Perhaps there were some other motivators as well: SKT conspicuously announced the releases of Journey, Sacsri, and coach HyuK between Rounds 2 and 3. On one hand, it might just have been some routine cost-cutting. On the other hand, it could have been the front office telling the team that they weren't afraid to make heads fly if the results didn't start getting better immediately.

In any case, SKT is now all the stronger for having survived a minor crisis. Not only are they dominating in Proleague, but they're killing it Code S as well. Seven SKT players qualified for Code S Season 2, and all seven have survived to see the Ro16. With even bench players like Paralyze and Dark showing they are Code S Ro16 quality, no team looks readier for the Bo7 season playoffs than SKT.

The only worry for SKT is that things are going a little too perfectly. Anyone who's followed traditional sports knows that "Are they peaking too early?" is a narrative that gets thrown around all the time, but it's a valid question for SKT. They might look extremely strong now, but there's still one more round and the season playoffs left to play. If the lesson of Round 2 sticks with them until then, the Proleague title is as sure are theirs. If not, and they find themselves lapsing once more... ...well, at least the viewers will get a more entertaining title race.

Oh, CJ Entus Showed Up, Too


Though not quite on the SKT scale, CJ Entus also came into the season with high expectations. Alongside Jin Air and KT Rolster, they were supposed to just behind SK Telecom in the title race. Like SKT, CJ saw their season turn very sour in rounds 1 and 2. Even though ace Protoss herO turned out to be an even better player than expected, none of CJ's other players stepped up to provide viable support for herO. Hydra, Bunny, and Sora – players who had shown promise in individual leagues – all struggled to perform at even an adequate level, leaving CJ to finish Round 1 with a dreadful 2-5 record.

With their third place finish in Round 2 and second place finish in Round 3, we can say CJ is finally where they should be. They may not look like true contenders in a league that includes SKT, but that's no different from any other team? At least CJ look to be closely matched against Jin Air and KT Rolster.

Unlike SKT, the team has come together in a very different way from what we predicted at the onset of the season. The question for CJ was always about who they'd have to back herO up, and they've come up with a rather unexpected answer. Sora and Hydra were the two most hyped players ahead of the season, but Sora has ended up being relegated to the bench while Hydra has been "okay" at best. Instead, Bbyong has come out of nowhere to give CJ a legit 1-2 punch capable of challenging anyone in Proleague. At one point in his career, Bbyong seemed to have hit his ceiling as a good-but-not-great Terran player. But a 10-2 in record in Round 3 (playoffs + group stage) and wins over the likes of PartinG, Zest, and Soulkey, he has to be considered one of the top Terrans in the world at the moment.

CJ have struggled to find consistent third and fourth players to back up herO and Bbyong, but the bench has done a decent job filling those spots by committee. The situation with the CJ bench almost resembles that of the old MVP teams in GSTL, where you expected the bench to eke out wins even if you never knew exactly who would be stepping up on a given day. Combined with the duo of herO and Bbyong, CJ would have a championship-class formula – if they weren't living in SKT's shadow.

Who Will Make The Season Playoffs?


Season Point Rankings (Top 4 Qualify For Season Playoffs)
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Scoring Per Round
Group Stage Finish - 1st: 81 / 2nd: 71 / 3rd: 61 / 4th: 51 / 5th: 45 / 6th: 40 / 7th: 35 / 8th: 30
Playoff Finish - 1st: 40 / 2nd: 10

The regular season has given way to plenty of small upsets in the short term, but in the big picture it looks like we're headed toward a predictable KT - SKT - Jin Air - CJ playoffs (Liquipedia believes that KT and SKT are mathematically confirmed).

The problem for Samsung, MVP, and IM's playoff campaigns is that it's not enough that they play well or that CJ play poorly – both need to happen at the same time. In fifth place Samsung's case, they'd need to finish four or five places above CJ in the Round 4 group stage to make up for their 31 point deficit. Now, that actually happened before in Round 1, but that was when Samsung was playing at their very best, and CJ were playing at their very worst. Even winning the Round 4 playoffs wouldn't 100% guarantee a playoff spot for Samsung if CJ managed to finish the group stage in a high enough position.

Short story for Samsung: Play your very best, hope CJ suffer an epic collapse, and pray. And what of MVP and IM, who are 50+ points behind CJ? We suppose they'll have to pray even harder.


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Writers: Waxangel.
Photos: KeSPA.
Editors: Waxangel.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 15:17:48
May 26 2014 15:17 GMT
#2
Good read. Sad that IM and MVP don't really have a shot at getting in. I also noticed that MVP only got 61 points in round 2 despite getting second place?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 26 2014 15:21 GMT
#3
On May 27 2014 00:17 Yorkie wrote:
Good read. Sad that IM and MVP don't really have a shot at getting in. I also noticed that MVP only got 61 points in round 2 despite getting second place?

4th in the round robin (51 points) +10 for second in playoffs
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 15:34:15
May 26 2014 15:32 GMT
#4
On May 27 2014 00:17 Yorkie wrote:
Good read. Sad that IM and MVP don't really have a shot at getting in. I also noticed that MVP only got 61 points in round 2 despite getting second place?


MVP were fourth in regular season.
Technically, even Prime can still reach final playoffs but it's ridiculous miracle.

But let's be honest, sadly IM and MVP have miserable chances already, but i want to see ST-IM+mercenaries at least once in playoffs, they were so close 2 times.

Considering that team, who wins regular season, wins playoffs this season, then Samsung has to do those things:

- If Samsung wins regular+playoffs, they're in final race.
- If Samsung comes 2nd in regular season and don't make finals + CJ Entus comes 6th, then we have tiebreaker i assume?
- Samsung comes fourth and don't make into finals + CJ Entus comes 8th, then tiebreaker as well.

- If Samsung comes 2nd + make finals and CJ Entus comes 5th or lower, then Khan are in final race as well.
But i hardly believe in it, so only thing i wish from this round - SKT doesn't hit KT in semifinals.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18624 Posts
May 26 2014 17:53 GMT
#5
wow bbyong got the title of being one of the "top terrans"

Took only ages for him to get that
LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Profile Joined May 2005
Netherlands50 Posts
May 26 2014 17:56 GMT
#6
However, the classic mistake of powering a production facility with just one pylon proved to be fatal

You mean... ARTOSIS PYLON.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
May 26 2014 18:46 GMT
#7
"SKT's farcical Round 1 performance." Did you not watch round 1 or something?
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hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
May 26 2014 18:52 GMT
#8
Bbyong is for me clearly in the top 5 of terrans. At the level of Maru or TY.
Maru is more consistent, TY better at preparation but not as good overall.
Flash is hard to rate, I still think Bbyong is or will soon be above.

Only versus MMA and Innovation I really don't know.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 18:58:36
May 26 2014 18:56 GMT
#9
On May 27 2014 03:46 LongShot27 wrote:
"SKT's farcical Round 1 performance." Did you not watch round 1 or something?


It wasn't satisfying at all.
Let's move back to 13th December, right after WJS disband and Soulkey and sOs joining other teams, not speaking about previous STX SouL disband.

When you see SKT T1 roster, you just say to yourself: "Wow, KT has only FlaSh, JinAir has Maru and sOs, CJ has herO, IM sucks right now because they have what, Byul who got slammed by Polt in WCS NA finals, Prime lost even MKP and MVP has slumping DRG and Super, who is barely Code S as ace. And we, almighty SKT T1, have Rain, PartinG, soO who just got Code S finals, Classic who teared Proleague apart and now SoulKey? How the fuck can we lose?"

Then Round 1 starts, SKT T1 smashed MVP, SoulKey then losing to Kal, IM are easy, then we just got smashed in telecom derby, won against slumping CJ Entus, won against JinAir because Maru has SoulKey as kryptonite while Rain lost to sOs, giving to Kim Yoo Jin HIS FIRST WIN this season, and then we just got destroyed by Samsung, because Shine > SoulKey and can do 9-pool bane bust as well as soO.

Then PartinG all-killed JinAir GreenWings after soO's loss, we barely won against Khan and then Zest just demolished SKT to being his domination and securing his Code S after it, killing one SKT T1 guy after another.

It wasn't satisfying at all.

On May 27 2014 03:52 hfsrj wrote:
Bbyong is for me clearly in the top 5 of terrans. At the level of Maru or TY.
Maru is more consistent, TY better at preparation but not as good overall.
Flash is hard to rate, I still think Bbyong is or will soon be above.

Only versus MMA and Innovation I really don't know.


Maru, Polt, Bbyong, then probably InNoVation + TaeJa, then all those Code B Terrans.
Probably InNoVation is going to destroy his Ro16 group with Soulkey, Zest and Shine and then i will rate him as top-2.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 19:08:13
May 26 2014 19:06 GMT
#10
good read

CJ, Jin Air, KT and SKT are all frighting, can't wait for next round
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#11
On May 27 2014 03:46 LongShot27 wrote:
"SKT's farcical Round 1 performance." Did you not watch round 1 or something?


Neither round 1 nor round 2 were particularly impressive by SKT. Round 2 decidedly worse than round 1, but it would be a stretch to say that their earlier performances are even close to what they pulled off in round 3.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 19:19:28
May 26 2014 19:16 GMT
#12
Prime can actually jump over CJ

I suck at math doubly so
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Zealously
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2014 19:56 GMT
#13
On May 27 2014 04:16 Lorning wrote:
Prime can actually jump over CJ

I suck at math doubly so


This is true. If CJ ends up 8th in Round 4 and Prime wins both the regular round and the playoffs, CJ will have 212 (182+30) points whereas Prime will have 216 (95+121). I don't think there has ever been a less likely playoffs scenario in Starcraft, but the possibility is there.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
May 26 2014 21:29 GMT
#14
On May 27 2014 04:16 Lorning wrote:
Prime can actually jump over CJ

I suck at math doubly so


they need to win regular+playoffs and CJ must finish last, while MVP/IM dont get high rankings either.
hey, keep hoping!
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
May 26 2014 21:54 GMT
#15
Prime hwaiting

in all seriousness its nice to see T1 going as hard as they should have gone months ago. I hope to see CJ keep up the good work too.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
crimsonlink
Profile Joined March 2013
United States53 Posts
May 27 2014 05:08 GMT
#16
At this point I'm just hopeing Prime does well to avoid last place and get above IM and maybe MVP if possible.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 27 2014 05:17 GMT
#17
On May 27 2014 04:56 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 04:16 Lorning wrote:
Prime can actually jump over CJ

I suck at math doubly so


This is true. If CJ ends up 8th in Round 4 and Prime wins both the regular round and the playoffs, CJ will have 212 (182+30) points whereas Prime will have 216 (95+121). I don't think there has ever been a less likely playoffs scenario in Starcraft, but the possibility is there.


Do penalties mean anything in that case?
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 05:30:36
May 27 2014 05:25 GMT
#18
Not sure if this is the right place, but a behind the scenes video of SKT celebrating their 10 year anniversary.

This may have been after the R3 finals win, I think. (Edit/ no, I don't think it was. SKT's matches before the finals, perhaps.)

KT best KT ~ 2014
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
May 27 2014 13:23 GMT
#19
Hopefully SKT1 will carry on with this momentum! SKT hwaiting!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7847 Posts
May 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#20
If anything SKT just pulled a nice round... round 1 and 2 will be a preview of their round 4 and 5 performances. Hehehe.
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
May 28 2014 03:50 GMT
#21
Do Prime have a chance of getting in if they don't lose a map the entire next round, and the right people lose?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 28 2014 05:24 GMT
#22
On May 28 2014 12:50 klipik12 wrote:
Do Prime have a chance of getting in if they don't lose a map the entire next round, and the right people lose?

Yes
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 28 2014 05:37 GMT
#23
Prime have to finish first in both round robin and playoffs for Prime to have a chance. All the following "Prime are out" scenarios are based on Prime getting the maximum 121 points for Round 4:

If CJ don't place last this round, Prime are out.

If Samsung earn 2nd place in round robin, finish 3rd in round robin and place at least 2nd in the playoffs, or finish 4th in round robin and win the playoffs, Prime are out.

If IM or MVP finish higher than Prime in either the round robin or playoffs, Prime are out.
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Turkey7150 Posts
May 28 2014 14:44 GMT
#24
Imagine Prime winning the entire thing from this point...
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Australia54784 Posts
May 28 2014 14:49 GMT
#25
psch prime will win it all easy
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