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Psione
Profile Joined March 2014
United States45 Posts
May 17 2014 15:07 GMT
#21
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.
Community Manager - StarCraft II - Twitter: @PsioneBlizzard
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 16:52:16
May 17 2014 16:48 GMT
#22
On May 17 2014 10:57 MajOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 10:53 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait.

not my job? lol u go ahead and do that but when u die to a single oracle you will see why


It is really easy to find a thousand people who can tell you what is wrong with the world. But incredibly hard to find one person who will help you fix it.

You coming here and saying that isn't anything special Major, it is the normal course of action of cynics, pessimists and naysayers. You helping him would be.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#23
I second some of the concerns with the build orders; even when cannon rushing you aren't supposed to go forge/cannon/gate/nexus, which is just a horrible build all around (easily updated with actual openings, see the PvZ guide we wrote last year). Other than that, nice job
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 17 2014 19:27 GMT
#24
I think the visual presentations are nifty! I'm going to build 9,000 roaches now vs P, T and Z! Watch it!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 18 2014 08:30 GMT
#25
so the build orders listed are not the same as the ones in the actual games?


am dling now but cant imagine the first one i look at will be a good example
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 18 2014 10:19 GMT
#26
I don't know wether they are, but if Zest when forge/cannon/gate/pylon/nexus then it's definitely not a standard build so i wouldn't follow that part. Other than that, at least the PvZ one looks cool. The TvP build is also reasonable but as Iaguz and Major pointed out it's not the best idea to move out blindly because of protoss early game tech (dt's/oracles etc).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
-HuShang-
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada393 Posts
May 18 2014 14:59 GMT
#27
Im pretty sure they made the builds for bronze players/new players to the game. Overly safe forge expand guide isnt the worst thing ever? If they're in a higher league they probably know about team liquid anyway and can find real guides.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 18 2014 16:19 GMT
#28
Really cool, thanks a lot .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 00:35:12
May 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#29
On May 18 2014 00:07 Psione wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.


I love how major got a well written, polite response to that complete molestation of the English language.

Naughty troll major!

I think you guys are reading to much into these pictures. They are nice BTW. These are clearly designed as a rough guide for newer players.
Head over to imba builds. They have at least two pages of writing for one build order. How are you going to fit all that into one picture?
These are quite nice I think, my friend is just starting starcraft (after years of telling him red alert is shit and starcraft is way better) I'll be giving him these.
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
May 19 2014 10:12 GMT
#30
This sounds amazing, downloading
pro toez
MatKay
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany30 Posts
May 20 2014 08:12 GMT
#31
Nice effort with the build order sheets, but rather learn the builds from replays its easier imo
just a Fan | All the best for TotalBiscuit!
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