EPTWelmu, Nerchio advance from Group A of WCS EU Ro32 - Page 5
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
On May 14 2014 21:31 Emix_Squall wrote: It's funny how people don't understand what retired mean! You don't get to decide when a player is retired or isn't, he does. And the fact that he chooses to keep playing even when he is retired doesn't make his retirement a "fake". Being a professionnal at something means that you dedicate enough of your time to it, and that you consider it to be the career path you are currently pursuing. They might both (or all 3 since it seems to be Welmu's case too) go to school but only one doesn't actively seeks to live from his SC2 performances. And by that I don't mean to belittle Nerchio's play, he did great. But he did, in fact as a professional player, beat a retired player. The fact hat this retired player used to be considered as a prodigy or whatever we may want to call him is not relevant in him being a professional or a retired pro-gamer. The fact that Nerchio goes to school isn't relevant either. As for those tweets, they're all grown ups, and they both enjoy trolling/flaming on those type of platforms. So I wouldn't read to much into it, just some casual taunting. But EG's point stands. Nerchio did in fact almost lose to a "retired player". Coz that's what Stephano is and there aren't multiple definitions of the word "retired" and it's NOT open to interpretation. If you make a living (or try to) of an activity that takes most of your time: your a professionnal, if not, you're not a professional and you can be considered "retired" if you used to do so. Just open a dictionnary if you doubt that ... Well by that logic, Polt is retired. So is Welmu. Oh, and Nerchio too, because they are all going to school and are full time at that and part time at SC2. You cant put two people who are in IDENTICAL POSITIONS and claim one is retired and the other is not. Stephano is trying to make money off his SC2 performances, while also going to school, which is the exact same thing Nerchio is trying to do and Welmu is trying to do. EDIT; My bad, he already went full circle on his comment. | ||
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NaboliC
Sweden130 Posts
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
I guess it's fine that Nerchio advanced but he has virtually no chance of accomplishing anything. The fact that everyone is arguing over the definition of retired is also pretty amusing to me. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
Also Polt #1 retired player in the world!  | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
On May 14 2014 23:41 johnbongham wrote:Did I say that? I said Stephano has always been known as somebody who willl do the same build over and over again because he found a way to abuse it to the fullest extent. Thats how he won all his prize money initially. you know who this statement makes me think of too? innovation Once it became obvious he would have to go back to the drawing board along with the rest of sc2 players for HOTS, he decided to retire. Now that he has once again found something he believes he can use to get to the top, he is back and making a pathetic display of sportsman and showmanship. who cares? he's just a dude playing computer games. if he's good enough to do things that work and win games, he has every right to play whenever he wants for whatever reason Yes, it is partially blizzards fault, and no, I dont blame him for doing it, but yes, I can say it is lame and boring and laugh when he fails and when other players call him out or talk shit to him. I dont like Nerchio at all but you better believe I was rooting for him to stomp stephano's boring swarmhost build. well that's fair enough. you can root against anyone you want. but i still think your reasoning is silly | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
Sure, he's not a perfect human being but the scene is better when he's playing, "retired" or not. | ||
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
 I also liked his personality, though the problem now is - even after not playing his own best - he still (in his own mind) acts as if he is The results "achieved" probably "justify" him that, but still - it's not cool (even for someone like him) and it's really unprofessional, and perhaps even disrespectful towards the opponents.. No-one is hating Stephano, but think a lot (even me included) dislike his "disrespect" towards the competition.. And it's not even a character or "ego" or a "perfectionist" thing, instead - it's just because he now has the "perfect excuse" to do so, which is yah - disrespectful IMO Still gotta admit - was refreshing to see a bit of him at least.. Hopefully we get to see him again (only with a better dedication and a bit more trolling, but yah - a bit better dedication this time) Didn't watch today's games though, but if I decide to - hopefully I don't get bored .. I know - spoilers, and yada yada, but hey - I'm retired too (having a full time job).. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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Soke
United States790 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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affenmann
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3772 Posts
On May 15 2014 07:57 Soke wrote: People keep saying that Stephano is not retired, but he is; he focuses on his university full time (studying engineering) and has had a long break recently, so he has been playing alot. He only plays when he streams, and he hasn't been streaming all too often. Nerchio is studying full time as well, although longer than Stephano. He is also less active than he used to be. I said that before - by very definition of player is competing be is not retired. He is just potentially not being very dedicated. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
We need people like Stephano in the SC2 landscape because he is entertaining and even if he is now a "shadow of foreigner hope" he is still a better hope than any actual foreigner except maybe Vortix. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On May 15 2014 07:57 Soke wrote: People keep saying that Stephano is not retired, but he is; he focuses on his university full time (studying engineering) and has had a long break recently, so he has been playing alot. He only plays when he streams, and he hasn't been streaming all too often. He played a lot in Jan/Feb, not recently. | ||
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Vete
Germany190 Posts
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