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On May 12 2014 18:50 nkr wrote: So how come jeuxvideo (who I assume are French) works with twitch if twitch doesnt work in France? It doesn't add up. Well twitch is watchable in France most of the time (at least for me), but depending on your ISP, your region, the time of the day and what Xavier Niel had for breakfeast in the morning, it can work like a charm or buffer on mobile quality. For the casters the main issue is more the low CPM than the stream quality I think.
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On May 12 2014 18:39 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:58 endy wrote:On May 12 2014 16:39 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 06:44 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:On May 12 2014 06:09 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 04:51 Vanadiel wrote:On May 12 2014 04:02 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 03:50 hfsrj wrote: They actually explained that Twitch in France pays much less than elsewhere. And it's strictly not possible to have a good production while streaming on twitch. I don't know the buisness plan of this french broadcast, but I would guess they have to be subsidized, or do things very cheaply.
I will try there cast but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna prefer the English cast. Several other language streams can run a stream for wcs with probably a tenth of the viewers that France will have. If you can't bring in enough money to have excellent production then downsize it until it fits the budget. That or just don't and stop complaining about it. It baffles me how there are people even thinking there's any injustice or even anything to be slightly annoyed with. Yeah, that is so silly from them to even get the idea to pay people that are working for you. By the way, as far as I know Millenium was okay to stream through twitch, because they had a mixed solution Dailymotion/twitch. And please remember that twitch in France is awfully bad, on Free at certain time of the day it is unwatchable even in 240p. If they're a proper company they'd understand why streaming on dailymotion when twitch is the partner isn't going to fly. Makes the whole thing all the more mindblowing. And please remember that twitch in France is awfully bad, on Free at certain time of the day it is unwatchable even in 240p. mindblown You don't circumvent partnerships because one isp in france has issues. Not sure why you think this is even relevant. What's the purpose of a French stream that doesn't work with French ISPs? Problems with an ISP does not equal doesn't work at all in France.
Free + Orange together have a 65% market share. Posts above provide more details about the Twitch issue.
On May 12 2014 19:03 digmouse wrote: Come on, twitch is worse in China since their Singapore datacenter is close to dead, if not for WCS AM having Chinese players we are not going to have any WCS cast, even that only Chinese playdays and the finals of WCS AM and EU are broadcasted.
I noticed that too, but connection between China and Singapore has always been bad (from my extensive experience with Amazon Cloud which servers are located in Singapore), so the outcome not very surprising.
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It s too bad that Ponf and Thud are not casting. I expect the main audience from JVC to be casual and so P&T would have been a good thing i nthat regard. ToD s good. I dont know much about Makoz to be honest but as long as the duo works it should be fine. It s better to have a French stream on JVC than none at all. It might also bring some fresh blood into the scene...we'll see.
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TakeTV all the way :D
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Noooo will this mean English Stream loses TOD? I loved his accent. Not only because it was french, I don't know he has something other French ppl who speak english dont have... + He was funny. On May 12 2014 20:50 MatKay wrote:TakeTV all the way  :D
hahaha never. Not that I need to cast someone for the blind ppl. "there are now 6 marines going to his base" "that banshee has cloak on it and already 5 kills" WOW SUCH DEEP ANALYSIS
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On May 13 2014 05:55 Rollora wrote: Noooo will this mean English Stream loses TOD? I loved his accent. Not only because it was french, I don't know he has something other French ppl who speak english dont have... + He was funny. ToD is still a caster for the english stream.
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On May 13 2014 05:57 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 05:55 Rollora wrote: Noooo will this mean English Stream loses TOD? I loved his accent. Not only because it was french, I don't know he has something other French ppl who speak english dont have... + He was funny. ToD is still a caster for the english stream. THX!
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On May 12 2014 15:04 Opera wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 04:51 Vanadiel wrote:On May 12 2014 04:02 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 03:50 hfsrj wrote: They actually explained that Twitch in France pays much less than elsewhere. And it's strictly not possible to have a good production while streaming on twitch. I don't know the buisness plan of this french broadcast, but I would guess they have to be subsidized, or do things very cheaply.
I will try there cast but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna prefer the English cast. Several other language streams can run a stream for wcs with probably a tenth of the viewers that France will have. If you can't bring in enough money to have excellent production then downsize it until it fits the budget. That or just don't and stop complaining about it. It baffles me how there are people even thinking there's any injustice or even anything to be slightly annoyed with. Yeah, that is so silly from them to even get the idea to pay people that are working for you. By the way, as far as I know Millenium was okay to stream through twitch, because they had a mixed solution Dailymotion/twitch. And please remember that twitch in France is awfully bad, on Free at certain time of the day it is unwatchable even in 240p. You know it's Free who is at fault and not Twitch right ? Same goes for Orange.
not entirely, twith chooses to connect with a cheap transiter, some ISPs refuses to pay to upgrade a link while the transiter just take money
On May 12 2014 18:43 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:39 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 17:58 endy wrote:On May 12 2014 16:39 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 06:44 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:On May 12 2014 06:09 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 04:51 Vanadiel wrote:On May 12 2014 04:02 nkr wrote:On May 12 2014 03:50 hfsrj wrote: They actually explained that Twitch in France pays much less than elsewhere. And it's strictly not possible to have a good production while streaming on twitch. I don't know the buisness plan of this french broadcast, but I would guess they have to be subsidized, or do things very cheaply.
I will try there cast but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna prefer the English cast. Several other language streams can run a stream for wcs with probably a tenth of the viewers that France will have. If you can't bring in enough money to have excellent production then downsize it until it fits the budget. That or just don't and stop complaining about it. It baffles me how there are people even thinking there's any injustice or even anything to be slightly annoyed with. Yeah, that is so silly from them to even get the idea to pay people that are working for you. By the way, as far as I know Millenium was okay to stream through twitch, because they had a mixed solution Dailymotion/twitch. And please remember that twitch in France is awfully bad, on Free at certain time of the day it is unwatchable even in 240p. If they're a proper company they'd understand why streaming on dailymotion when twitch is the partner isn't going to fly. Makes the whole thing all the more mindblowing. And please remember that twitch in France is awfully bad, on Free at certain time of the day it is unwatchable even in 240p. mindblown You don't circumvent partnerships because one isp in france has issues. Not sure why you think this is even relevant. What's the purpose of a French stream that doesn't work with French ISPs? Problems with an ISP does not equal doesn't work at all in France. 26.7 millions of French people have Orange as ISP.
orange doesn't really have problems with twitch anymore (nor youtube/google)
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