EPTThat's a great news for sc2 more visibility for sc2 in france ! hope other country will join and pls community stop Snobisme !
Snobisme is the worst think you can put into sc2 !
French WCS Broadcast on jeuxvideo.com - Page 5
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xxxKagexxx
France43 Posts
That's a great news for sc2 more visibility for sc2 in france ! hope other country will join and pls community stop Snobisme ! Snobisme is the worst think you can put into sc2 ! | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
If IKEA or H&M was the main and only sponsor DH, wouldn't you be pissed? It's close to what's happening in France with JV.com | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On May 11 2014 11:39 Agathon wrote: If IKEA or H&M was the main and only sponsor DH, wouldn't you be pissed? It's close to what's happening in France with JV.com what's wrong with ikea being a sponsor? | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 11 2014 11:39 Agathon wrote: If IKEA or H&M was the main and only sponsor DH, wouldn't you be pissed? It's close to what's happening in France with JV.com hm, no?  | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On May 11 2014 11:39 Agathon wrote: If IKEA or H&M was the main and only sponsor DH, wouldn't you be pissed? It's close to what's happening in France with JV.com As long as they have money. Please post real arguments if you want to be credible. | ||
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GreenFate
France289 Posts
It's more about that : 1/ The communities that developed SC2 in France by themselves (Millenium, OGaming, aAa) are not involved in this new casting project, which seems ungrateful from ESL. However, remember that these communities said they couldn't run a beneficial project with twitch, but running it through twitch is part of Blizzard's contract so ... 2/ There is also the fact that JVC is a big website sponsored by some ad company (thus seen as the big bad wolf), and is said to be only followed by teenagers (which is not a really reasonable argument, as I believe it is the most followed gaming website in France?). | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 11 2014 18:34 GreenFate wrote: It's more about that : 1/ The communities that developed SC2 in France by themselves (Millenium, OGaming, aAa) are not involved in this new casting project, which seems ungrateful from ESL. However, remember that these communities said they couldn't run a beneficial project with twitch, but running it through twitch is part of Blizzard's contract so ... 2/ There is also the fact that JVC is a big website sponsored by some ad company (thus seen as the big bad wolf), and is said to be only followed by teenagers (which is not a really reasonable argument, as I believe it is the most followed gaming website in France?). How is it ungrateful when it's ogaming who refuse to work with the partner of esl & wcs? They had every chance in the world to stream on twitch and adjust the resources to not make a huge loss. Instead they say "our way or we won't do it at all" and then people are upset when esl give the rights to someone else. | ||
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GreenFate
France289 Posts
On May 11 2014 19:09 nkr wrote: How is it ungrateful when it's ogaming who refuse to work with the partner of esl & wcs? They had every chance in the world to stream on twitch and adjust the resources to not make a huge loss. Instead they say "our way or we won't do it at all" and then people are upset when esl give the rights to someone else. I just said that some people feel it's ungrateful. I don't say I agree with them  | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On May 11 2014 21:06 Nightshake wrote: How do we get in contact ? I'll be interested in commenting :p I think you can send a message on twitter to TKL ( @TKL_4Skilltv ) or Makoz ( makozsc2 ) or LeLfe ( @ClemLeLfe ) | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On May 11 2014 19:09 nkr wrote: How is it ungrateful when it's ogaming who refuse to work with the partner of esl & wcs? They had every chance in the world to stream on twitch and adjust the resources to not make a huge loss. Instead they say "our way or we won't do it at all" and then people are upset when esl give the rights to someone else. you missed the part when ogaming officials whined publicly about it on TL | ||
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Amiralsims
34 Posts
On May 11 2014 19:09 nkr wrote: How is it ungrateful when it's ogaming who refuse to work with the partner of esl & wcs? They had every chance in the world to stream on twitch and adjust the resources to not make a huge loss. Instead they say "our way or we won't do it at all" and then people are upset when esl give the rights to someone else. How can you pay your employees with a 2$ CPM ? It's impossible. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 11 2014 21:37 Amiralsims wrote: How can you pay your employees with a 2$ CPM ? It's impossible. All other language streams can do it. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
twitch ads do not pay the same in each countries | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26242 Posts
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On May 12 2014 01:01 Wombat_NI wrote: How does the CPM compare to other countries? Also what does it actually stand for ? I know what you're talking about but am unsure of what the acronym actually stands for. Cost Per Mille I don't know the exact numbers, just that it is really low in France (and I don't know the reasons either) and that Dailymotion CPM is much better (in France) | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
I will try there cast but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna prefer the English cast. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 12 2014 03:50 hfsrj wrote: They actually explained that Twitch in France pays much less than elsewhere. And it's strictly not possible to have a good production while streaming on twitch. I don't know the buisness plan of this french broadcast, but I would guess they have to be subsidized, or do things very cheaply. I will try there cast but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna prefer the English cast. Several other language streams can run a stream for wcs with probably a tenth of the viewers that France will have. If you can't bring in enough money to have excellent production then downsize it until it fits the budget. That or just don't and stop complaining about it. It baffles me how there are people even thinking there's any injustice or even anything to be slightly annoyed with. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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