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Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 18:53:21
May 10 2014 18:52 GMT
#41
On May 10 2014 10:58 AKAvg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 23:14 Coriolis wrote:
Nothing to change swarmhosts? Seriously? I'm pretty sure the only person that actually likes swarmhosts is stephano.


DK mentioned changes in the long term for Swarm Hosts.
Meaning it's quite likely something for LotV.
We'll have to "deal" with SHs until then.


What will most likely happen is that they are just going fine tune some random stuff, which really won´t help (remember infested terran egg health reduction?). Then the game gets shaken up enough in LotV to make SH obsolete. It would be just like BL/Infestor, the new units change the game enough to make the SH problem go away.
Entropy137
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada215 Posts
May 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#42
On May 06 2014 23:14 Coriolis wrote:
Nothing to change swarmhosts? Seriously? I'm pretty sure the only person that actually likes swarmhosts is stephano.

noooo you see, Stephano sacrificed his dignity and somewhat his sanity to show the world the absurdness of that fucking unit. Or I think.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
May 10 2014 19:31 GMT
#43
On May 11 2014 02:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protoss actually were pretty OK vs Hellbat drops for the most part once they tweaked a few things.


TvZ was fine to for the most part. TvT was horrible though and the main reason behind the nerf.

As far as strategies with the new change, the heavy hellion opening vs Protoss (see Dayshi , ForGG has a few public games to, etc) are substantially buffed in a few ways.

The normal TvZ hellion opening has some more bite to it as well.
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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 20:31:00
May 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#44
On May 11 2014 04:11 Entropy137 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 23:14 Coriolis wrote:
Nothing to change swarmhosts? Seriously? I'm pretty sure the only person that actually likes swarmhosts is stephano.

noooo you see, Stephano sacrificed his dignity and somewhat his sanity to show the world the absurdness of that fucking unit. Or I think.


No actually stephano loves that type of play style and unit. He was the first one really back in the day in wol to play turtle static d with broodlord infestor..........he loves that sytle.

I hope the Terran changes go live, makes mech a lot better to play.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26242 Posts
May 10 2014 20:35 GMT
#45
Stephano was always one to be ahead on the curve strategically, especially when it comes to some of the most boring play styles out there
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Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
May 13 2014 17:10 GMT
#46
Won't change much things, just that terrans will finally have decent timings in TvZ. TvP will still be hard for terrans and maybe we'll see some new timings in TvT.

Nice change in overall but not enough to rebalance the game.
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