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Proleague Map Stats Through Round 2

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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:08:17
April 04 2014 11:40 GMT
#1
Thought I'd share some map data from SPL before we go into some new ladder maps (and also Round 3). These stats include everything EXCEPT the Round 2 Playoff Finals. I'm taking them all from a data sheet that our stats wizard (Jihwan Yi) made for me. Some pretty interesting info in here. Have fun with it.


The King Sejong Station
Terran vs Zerg 1:4
Zerg vs Protoss 9:8
Protoss vs Terran 2:5
Terran vs Terran 0 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 10 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 4 Games


Yeonsu
Terran vs Zerg 3:1
Zerg vs Protoss 3:6
Protoss vs Terran 8:5
Terran vs Terran 2 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 13 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 4 Games


Frost LE
Terran vs Zerg 4:1
Zerg vs Protoss 8:8
Protoss vs Terran 8:5
Terran vs Terran 2 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 13 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 1 Game


Outboxer
Terran vs Zerg 7:3
Zerg vs Protoss 4:4
Protoss vs Terran 5:5
Terran vs Terran 3 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 6 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 5 Games


Polar Night
Terran vs Zerg 2:0
Zerg vs Protoss 0-7
Protoss vs Terran 2:2
Terran vs Terran 1 Game
Protoss vs Protoss 7 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 0 Games


Habitation Station
Terran vs Zerg 3:1
Zerg vs Protoss 0:4
Protoss vs Terran 2:4
Terran vs Terran 0 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 3 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 2 Games


Round 2 Maps Overall
Terran vs Zerg 20:10
Zerg vs Protoss 24:37
Protoss vs Terran 25:28
Terran vs Terran 9 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 43 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 16 Games


Proleague 2014 Total Map Stats
Terran vs Zerg 23:12
Zerg vs Protoss 34:44
Protoss vs Terran 29:33
Terran vs Terran 9 Games
Protoss vs Protoss 50 Games
Zerg vs Zerg 19 Games

Edit: Source sheet
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Edit 2: Liquipedia Stats. I didn't know they were all here this organized even though I use LP all the fucking time haha. I posted these because I felt there were some really notable stats in here.
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Taronar
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands177 Posts
April 04 2014 11:50 GMT
#2
Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this?
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
April 04 2014 11:51 GMT
#3
thanks Wolf :D
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
April 04 2014 11:53 GMT
#4
On April 04 2014 20:50 Taronar wrote:
Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this?


No real ubber zergs nowadays, Soulkey and Rogue are fucking strong, but the other are still lacking imho. DRG doing somewhat good, but still.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 11:58:26
April 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#5
Not to rain on your parade, but this data is also here right?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics

Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.

More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:02:05
April 04 2014 12:00 GMT
#6
On April 04 2014 20:56 Ketch wrote:
Not to rain on your parade, but this this data is also here right?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Statistics

Also, your results don't include the final playoff match between Jin Air and MVP yet, the wikipedia page does.

More interesting would be to hear your take on these stats!

The stats on TLPD and liquipedia aren't "official" stats
(I'm amazed that theres enough dedicated fans around to keep all of this up to date, really awesome tbh)

Thanks for sharing the starts anyway Wolf, they are interesting and I'm sure that a lot of people find them too.
The curse is real
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:11:04
April 04 2014 12:10 GMT
#7
On April 04 2014 20:50 Taronar wrote:
Very intresting stats! I am actually impressed by how well Terran plays against Protoss since the last balance patch. Think it is mainly because the astonishing amount of strong Terrans compared to the Protosses. Also zergs seem really weak in these stats. Can somebody sum up ideas behind this?


PvZ: Good Protoss figured out consistent ways to play against SHs and bad Protoss figured out that they still can just Immortal/Sentry against anybody that is favored against them.
TvZ: Not sure, but Maps were pretty good for Terran these rounds, if you were willing to play to them. Tanks are pretty good these days.
EthanS
Profile Joined February 2011
United States206 Posts
April 04 2014 12:19 GMT
#8
Zerg was 1-18 combined on Polar Night and Habitation Station. Ouch.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
April 04 2014 12:28 GMT
#9
On April 04 2014 21:19 EthanS wrote:
Zerg was 1-18 combined on Polar Night and Habitation Station. Ouch.


Yeah, it's crazy too because every TLPD stat and every stat I get from sc2replaystats (thousands of games) has Zerg about equal with protoss and zerg having like a 55% win ratio against terran on it.

It boggles my mind! lol
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
xpaperclip
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
April 04 2014 12:34 GMT
#10
If anyone is interested I recently started gathering which maps were the best, worst and most played by each player.
(Wiki)User:Xpaperclip/Carno/Player Map Statistics (Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)

(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha)
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
April 04 2014 12:37 GMT
#11
On April 04 2014 21:34 xpaperclip wrote:
If anyone is interested I recently started gathering which maps were the best, worst and most played by each player.
(Wiki)User:Xpaperclip/Carno/Player Map Statistics (Presentation is a bit crap so probably won't make it to mainspace any time soon.)

(I also started including the relevant information in lineup posts and no one noticed haha)


Well this will make my Fantasy league much easier to set up lol
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 12:40:30
April 04 2014 12:40 GMT
#12
People figured out what MC understood three years ago, playing macro against zerg is annoying and takes time, just bombard them with cheeses and proxies. Something will usually stick.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
April 04 2014 12:52 GMT
#13
Terran best performing race. Hmmmm not bad
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
April 04 2014 13:27 GMT
#14
"Protoss is so op, we need to put antitoss maps into the mappool!"~Blizzard
Just throw in Outboxer, it seems it is very balanced map.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#15
Interesting that terran has good stats but TvT is the least played mirror match-up. It seems that teams are still reluctant to field terrans.
sacade
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
April 04 2014 14:30 GMT
#16
Zerg is so uderpower
They need Jaedong so much
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
April 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#17
Why oh why did Blizzard took KSS and not outboxer
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
April 05 2014 20:06 GMT
#18
we need MOAR zergs!!! Lifuuuuuuuu!! u have to find a way
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 05 2014 21:01 GMT
#19
On April 04 2014 23:29 andrewlt wrote:
Interesting that terran has good stats but TvT is the least played mirror match-up. It seems that teams are still reluctant to field terrans.


well we got to see fanta rape some ppl and bbyong played some, way better than r1.
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