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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 17 2014 11:01 GMT
#141
you can't take seriously a team with such a name
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
blarkh
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria72 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 11:44:06
March 17 2014 11:43 GMT
#142
On March 17 2014 13:17 Zanzabarr wrote:
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On March 17 2014 12:53 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On March 17 2014 11:58 knOxStarcraft wrote:
On March 17 2014 11:45 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Some really tactless and honestly embaressing posts here... Unless you have evidence otherwise, assume it is true and wish him the best. Just because another guy was an asshole doesn't mean this guy is. If he really is faking to get out of paying people, then yes that is horrible. But assume the best in him.

Best wishes and thanks for what you gave to the community.

Actually you usually assume things are false unless evidence shows them to be true, unless you know the person well or whatever, like a friend or family member. Given the HTOMario issue I believe everyone's skepticism is warranted. "Best wishes" won't do his heart much good anyways.


Lol what? If we are going by the standard of law, you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around. Obviously people are getting paid. We honestly don't even know the full story about the whole HTOMario thing anyways just some post on reddit, so taking that as 100% fact is ridiculous anyway. This guy was literally paying these players out of pocket, and now he's dying. Have some fucking decency for once.

This is awful and I hope Pascal can come to peace with whatever he has left to do in life. If there's a chance to recover I hope that happens, but just don't have any regrets man. <3


In the standard of law, yes, innocent until proven guilty. But this isn't a court room, and I'm sure he wasn't referring to a lawsuit. His example was in the realm of Science/logic. A claim must be supported with evidence until it can be given any merit. As such, that means that claims without evidence might as well be taken as being false. A true scientist is a master of skepticism. On one hand, you have the evidence of one person's voice, and on the other, you have the "convenient" timing of the illness as well as past incidences of a similar series of events that turned out to be a sham. The given evidence is insufficient to form a conclusion at this point, so you can't say that this is a lie, but you also have a decently strong reason to not assume it to be true. One can only wait.


But it's not a defensio either. We have no possible way of scientifically assessing the truth of the information we have here. But it's not about people suspecting it might be a hoax. It's about people making jokes about someone who might be dying and justifying it by saying it might be wrong. Show me one sensible scientist that makes fun about a theory he can't disprove because 'it might not be true'.
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
March 17 2014 12:37 GMT
#143
Now I won't have the inspiration to love my gf anymore
NrT.Artunit
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
March 17 2014 12:51 GMT
#144
I think I'm just going to assume that the entire thing (creation of the team, recruitment of random Koreans and practically everyone who was willing to join, promises of big sponsor announcements, not sending Korean players to any tournaments, random drama, spontaneous disbandment due to sudden unspecified serious illness) was planned all along as a parody of certain other team.

In which case: Best. Troll. Ever.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
March 17 2014 13:06 GMT
#145
On March 17 2014 19:44 BarneyNapalm wrote:
Just going to put this out here. This is taken from the reddit thread, and is written by a player "on" (?) LYGF called Lucoda
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As a player for the team, I want to give my opinion on every thing from my point of view. For the record, I am Peter Healy, or Lucoda. The time I spent on LYGF was definitely the most enjoyable since I started playing SC2. Pascal and James were amazing managers in every respect. They really cared about us individually and wanted the best for all of us. It was really unfortunate how everything panned out with the various dramas about us but, even without holding the LYGF name now, I still stand by fully behind Pascal in what happened.
All of the lads in the team are all real solid players and you will definitely be hearing their names in the future. I hope ye all think of Pascal in your prayers or anything during the next few nights, he is very ill right now and deserves the support he can get.
To the fans that we had, thank you for supporting us through thick and thin. I'm really sorry for all the bad things that have happened. It's your support that helped us all throughout it.
If anyone wants to ask some questions I will answer to the best of my ability.


I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but it is worth noting.


If what he says is true, then I feel really sorry for how this thread turned out. I blame Simon more than anyone when it comes to how cynical the community has become. Best of health to you, Pascal.
"Right on" - Morrow
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 17 2014 13:08 GMT
#146
Seems like this team is getting a lot of shit for a team which hasn't done anything wrong yet. Innocent until proven guilty I say. I just hope the players saw this coming.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Lucoda
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Ireland183 Posts
March 17 2014 13:11 GMT
#147
Not sure if my comment got buried, but I am willing to answer some questions on how everything turned out. I am Lucoda, a player for LYGF. Feel free to ask away!
https://twitter.com/LucodaSC2
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 17 2014 13:12 GMT
#148
I never really understood this team, but they do have a very talented roster. Hopefully they can find suitable homes.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 17 2014 13:22 GMT
#149
What a joke. People actually defended this organization in the last thread.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
March 17 2014 13:28 GMT
#150
I'm kind of disgusted at the number of "lol what a surprise" posts here. Until you're certain that the dude isn't really dying it's kind of disrespectful. More than disrespectful it's sad and pathetic.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 13:33:32
March 17 2014 13:33 GMT
#151
On March 17 2014 22:11 LucoxP wrote:
Not sure if my comment got buried, but I am willing to answer some questions on how everything turned out. I am Lucoda, a player for LYGF. Feel free to ask away!


@LucoxP: why was there so very little "marketing" done by the team. At the beginning there were a few articles on TL, some gossip about a secret Investor and plenty of Korean pickups but after that hardly anything was happening. It looked like there was no concrete plan about how the team is going to make it.
SH-Fist
Profile Joined July 2013
Ukraine2 Posts
March 17 2014 13:33 GMT
#152
Geniuos is one unlucky guy!

After he left MVP he joined Slayers just before they got disbanded, then he was looking for a team for an eternity, and now this.

Hope he does not retire. Hold on Genious, we remember how good u are!
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
March 17 2014 13:33 GMT
#153
On March 17 2014 09:02 LYGF wrote:
I asked Pascal if he had a bucket list or anything of the sort, and he told me "i just want to spend time with my fiancee." He really does love his girlfriend.



I wonder how someone can take this announcement seriously tbh.
Is the guy dying or is he making jokes on his team name?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 17 2014 13:36 GMT
#154
On March 17 2014 22:33 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
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On March 17 2014 09:02 LYGF wrote:
I asked Pascal if he had a bucket list or anything of the sort, and he told me "i just want to spend time with my fiancee." He really does love his girlfriend.



I wonder how someone can take this announcement seriously tbh.
Is the guy dying or is he making jokes on his team name?


Saying you want to spend time with your fiancee seems like a fairly typical answer from someone in those circumstances, not entirely sure he is just making jokes on his team name...
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
March 17 2014 13:40 GMT
#155
I don't believe this for a second.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
chaos22
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada23 Posts
March 17 2014 13:51 GMT
#156
I have worked with Pascal and James before both i found to be fair and up standing people. This is rather bad news for Pascal. Am sure he will do everything to take care of the people in LYGF. I hope he can settle everything in his life before his condition gets worst.
EtnDMaestro|bZgMaestro|ThyMaestro
Lucoda
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Ireland183 Posts
March 17 2014 13:58 GMT
#157
On March 17 2014 22:33 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 22:11 LucoxP wrote:
Not sure if my comment got buried, but I am willing to answer some questions on how everything turned out. I am Lucoda, a player for LYGF. Feel free to ask away!


@LucoxP: why was there so very little "marketing" done by the team. At the beginning there were a few articles on TL, some gossip about a secret Investor and plenty of Korean pickups but after that hardly anything was happening. It looked like there was no concrete plan about how the team is going to make it.


It was one of the things I was always saying we should do more. Things like a short video of Genius saying he loves his Girlfriend or something similar would have been really nice. However, due to the circumstances that we were accused of, it was hard to do anything to get people on our side other than show solid results in tournaments etc. It's unfortunate that we had to go down this way.

The main plan was to get into pro team leagues. We wanted to show the community that we weren't fucking around. A team house in Cologne was in the works too which would have been really nice.

Is it really weird though for the community to not know how a specific team is going to make it? Take a look professional teams. They don't tell everyone when they start out exactly how they are going to "make it". They show it through solid tournament and clan war results. Unfortunately, we didn't have oppurtunities fast enough to show you guys what we were made of.
https://twitter.com/LucodaSC2
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
March 17 2014 13:59 GMT
#158
Naniwa must be overjoyed reading this thread
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37125 Posts
March 17 2014 14:06 GMT
#159
On March 17 2014 22:59 Soda-88 wrote:
Naniwa must be overjoyed reading this thread

Why?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 17 2014 14:12 GMT
#160
Ach, Hans, run! It's the LYGF.

Good luck to all the former players.
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