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January 12th, 2014 01:27 GMT
SKPlanet PRoleague

TelecomSsangRok: SKT vs KT

By: Zealously and Waxangel

Week 3 of Proleague features the biggest esports rivalry of all time - that between the two Korean telecom teams SKT and KT. Both teams have performed well so far, with SKT looking like the league's best team and KT trailing not far behind. With both teams having bolstered their rosters since their last Proleague meeting, 2014's first Telecom derby should be a blockbuster.

Without further ado, here are the week three match-ups:

Round 1 Standings
1.SKT3-09-2+7
2.Jin Air2-18-5+3
3.KT2-18-6+2
4.Samsung2-18-6+2
5.IM2-17-6+1
6.MVP1-24-6-2
7.Prime0-33-9-7
8.CJ0-32-9-7

Results and standings on Liquipedia
Videos on Youtube

January 12th


CJ Entus vs Incredible Miracle
(Z)Hydra < Frost LE > (P)HerO
(P)Sora < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Squirtle
(Z)EffOrt < Sejong Research Station > (Z)ByuL
(P)herO < Star Station TE > (P)YongHwa
Ace: Outboxer

SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster
(P)PartinG < Star Station TE > (T)Flash
(Z)soO < Frost LE > (P)MyuNgSiK
(Z)Soulkey < Yeonsu LE > (T)TY
(P)Rain < Sejong Research Station > (P)Stats
Ace:Bel'Shir Vestige LE

January 13th


Prime vs Samsung Galaxy Khan
(P)Jila (GooJila,Kal) < Frost LE > (Z)Shine
(P)Creator < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (Z)RorO
(Z)KassiA < Sejong Research Station > (P)Stork
(Z)TerrOr < Star Station TE > (Z)Solar
Ace:Outboxer

Jin Air Green Wings vs MVP
(T)Maru < Frost LE > (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)sOs < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (T)Dream
(Z)Rogue < Sejong Research Station > (T)KeeN
(T)Cure < Star Station TE > (P)Super
Ace:Outboxer

January 14th


SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus
(P)PartinG < Yeonsu LE > (P)herO
(P)Classic < Sejong Research Station > (Z)Hydra
(T)BrAvO < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)Sora
(Z)Soulkey < Outboxer > (Z)EffOrt
Ace: Frost LE

KT Rolster vs Incredible Miracle
(P)Zest < Yeonsu LE > (Z)ByuL
(T)TY < Sejong Research Station > (P)Ruin
(T)Flash < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > (P)HerO
(Z)Action < Outboxer > (P)Squirtle
Ace: Frost LE


Roster Notes


  • (T)FanTaSy has been somewhat of an enigma ever since the KeSPA switch to Starcraft II. Sometimes he's good enough to win even without macro, and sometimes he flops completely. Where he is at the moment is difficult to say, but he is still not being fielded. SKT has opted instead to field new signing (T)BrAvO against CJ Entus.
  • KT Rolster, previously fielding the same four players in all three matches, are benching (P)Zest in favor of (P)MyuNgSiK in their important match against SKT. Myungsik will play (Z)soO.
  • (P)Kal had the misfortune of facing Sniper last week, and has to face the even more despised (Z)Shine. Can a fan favorite best such a powerful foe?
  • Prime is yet to find their fourth core member. This week, ex-WJS player (Z)KassiA is being fielded - his first ever broadcasted match.
  • (Z)DongRaeGu is back on the line-up and has been given the chance to take down Jin Air's most important player - Maru. Given the latter's relatively weak TvZ, maybe DRG can finally catch a break?
  • Liquid's (P)HerO will be in action twice for partner team IM, but he's drawn a very tough hand in Flash and Hydra.
  • 0 TvT, 3 ZvZ, 3 ZvT, 4 PvP, 5 TvP, 9 PvZ


Must Watch Match: Week 3


Rivalry of the Ages
SK Telecom (3-0) vs. KT Rolster (2-1)



There are plenty of other great matches in week three, but the Telecom derby overshadows them all. SKT vs KT is the El Clásico of Starcraft. Both teams have produced some of Brood War's greatest players, and combined they have won over half of all Proleagues. Although STX SouL stole their collective thunder in the first StarCraft 2 season, the two telecommunication giants have come back looking as strong as ever. The two teams have some of the strongest line-ups in Proleague, and this is a match very much worth anticipating.

(P)PartinG < Star Station TE > (T)Flash
Head-to-head: 6-4

The most anticipated game of the series and perhaps also the most important one, Parting vs Flash will set the tone for the series and give the winning side a huge advantage. Flash, along with TY, is the cornerstone in KT's line-up and has to be relied on for wins as always. So far, Flash has seemed more than suited for the role - beating Rogue, eMotion and Solar after his loss to Sora in week 1. But it has to be said that with the exception of Sora, none of the players Flash has beaten so far can (yet) be regarded as being elite-level. Solar and Rogue are great players, but can they truly be compared to Soulkey or Life at their very best? Can eMotion truly be compared to the likes of Parting and Sora?

The last three times Parting and Flash faced off, Parting showcased his excellent PvT, preventing the KT ace from advancing in GSL twice and ultimately playing a pivotal role in the derailing of God's hype train. This isn't to say that Flash by any means looked completely out of his depth against the ex-Startale Protoss, but Parting's play seems smooth where Flash's still has its jagged edges, refined where Flash's still has flaws for him to work on. Flash's vastly superior experience with the Proleague format will be a key factor, as he showed last season that he remains capable of engineering a build or out-thinking his opponent to take a quick win where it would be otherwise hard to get. Neither player has been at his best in the match-up recently, with Parting taking an 0-2 loss to Byun online a few weeks ago and Flash playing few matches and looking good but not astonishing. All in all it's a difficult match to call, but the edge should go to Parting given his peak level PvT play.

(Z)soO < Frost LE > (P)MyuNgSiK
Head-to-head: 0-0

Myungsik is that guy, the guy that pops up every few months to tear through one or two qualifiers, striking like lightning and taking out players he shouldn't even get close to beating, and doing it convincingly. People begin to notice and pin the guy as a future star, but then - much like San, the hype is never realised. For Myungsik, it was the IEM Shanghai qualifiers that led people to believe that it was only a matter of time before he would translate his online results to offline fame. Not so. After IEM Shanghai, he's never really had a period where he looked world-class again. As with most Korean progamers, the potential is there, but the question if that potential can be turned into a key win for KT in this match.

Against soO, probably not. Over the last few months, soO has played against a full who's who of Korean Protoss players and come out with a 19-19 record. Not astonishingly good but a very respectable win rate considering his opponents were players like Dear and Trap. soO looked good against both Super and Trap this season, and save for unexpected builds or Myungsik suddenly going online-mode, the SKT Zerg should walk out of this match the victor.

(Z)Soulkey < Yeonsu LE > (T)TY
Head-to-head: 0-0

The third match pits Soulkey – the best Zerg of 2013, one of the few to be able to keep up with Innovation even when the STX Terran was at his best – against TY – the baby prodigy that never was. Only right now, the roles seem almost reversed. Since joining SKT, Soulkey has looked mediocre at best, whereas TY has shown nothing but good play since joining KT. Though he hasn't played a Zerg yet, the relentless multi-pronged aggression he showed against Protoss and Terran opponents lead us to believe that he'll be able to make things very hard for Soulkey.

While on the subject of aggression, it has to be brought up that Soulkey was once known as the Iron Wall of Korea for his impeccable and almost unbreakable defensive play. Not only that, the GSL champion also showcased incredible mental fortitude and composure. Pressure has little effect on Soulkey and he can usually be relied on to bring his A-game. While he hasn't done so thus far in Proleague, it seems very unlikely that he won't eventually shake off his stint of mediocrity and return to his top form. However, with how good TY has looked these last few weeks while Soulkey has looked anything but, it would be somewhat of a stretch to bet on a the SKT Zerg in a best of 1.

(P)Rain < Sejong Research Station > (P)Stats
Head-to-head: 3-3

While his PvP mojo may have been stolen by Parting, Rain remains a formidable opponent in the Protoss mirror. As is the case with many Korean progamers, the most difficult part about Rain is judging how good he is in the match-up right now. He played 2 matches in December, beating Dear and Creator without much trouble. Stats similarly beat White, Terminator and Trend for a combined 6-0 in the Code A qualifiers just a few days ago. Unfortunately, none of the latter's matches were broadcasted which makes telling exactly how good Stats is in PvP right now difficult. Rain still seems to excel in macro PvP, often opting to expand earlier and more frequently than his opponents. Further, Rain no longer seems quite as fond of colossus play as he did in the WCS Asia-era, where his masterful position trumped more than one Protoss' aggression. Rain has also developed a fondness for warp prisms and their various uses - utilising them for both harassment and quickly moving immortals around in key engagements. Against Creator, he used a warp prism to drop immortals right on top of the Prime Protoss' colossi, forcing Creator to focus his attention on the clumsy units while Rain's archon-heavy army tore apart zealots and stalkers.

In the end, a lot of things can happen in PvP, especially in Proleague's Bo1 format. Stats is free to study Rain's recent PvPs to devise a strategy or choose to put his faith to an unexpected build and good micro. Oracles are still a factor and any number of early game timings can end a game in the favor of Stats, but in a straight-up games - which PvP seems to end in more and more often lately, Rain holds the edge.

Ace < Bel'Shir Vestige LE > Ace

Last season, Flash was almost always going to come out as ace for KT Rolster, and Rain (later on, occasionally Fantasy) was almost a lock for SKT. In the '14 season, there are many more potential ace match-ups than the most likely Flash vs. Rain of last season. KT has two reliable ace-level players in Flash and TY, while SKT has 3-4 players that could all potentially come out in an ace match - Rain, Parting, Soulkey and maybe soO. The fact that there is no definite ace for either team makes an ace match all the more exciting and much more difficult to prepare for as a team. Should the match reach the ace match, we could see a Parting vs Flash rematch, we could see Rain vs TY or even Soulkey vs. Flash.

Flash vs Rain is probably the most likely match-up given their experience with ace matches and playing in tight spots, but the fact that the match-up is what many would expect might have the teams thinking twice, instead opting for mind games and an unexpected pick. One can analyze the intricacies of the ace match forever, so I'll end with a bold prediction: if KT manages to make it to the ace match, which will be a difficult thing to do given SKT's current roster, they will take the match.


Week 3 Predictions



CJ Entus > Incredible Miracle
SK Telecom T1 > KT Rolster
Prime < Samsung Khan
Jin Air Green Wings > MVP
SK Telecom T1 > CJ Entus
KT Rolster > Incredible Miracle



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Writers: Waxangel and Zealously
Images: SpoTV
Editors: Waxangel.
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urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
January 12 2014 01:33 GMT
#2
Looking forward to these matches, esp. Soulkey vs. TY.

Also, KT Rolster > Incredible Miracle is entirely bolded, should be just KT bolded?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 01:35:49
January 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#3
On January 12 2014 10:33 urasyupi2 wrote:
Looking forward to these matches, esp. Soulkey vs. TY.

Also, KT Rolster > Incredible Miracle is entirely bolded, should be just KT bolded?


Naw, I'm pretty sure they meant to bold just IM. The greater than should be swapped in both of their matches too. >.>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
January 12 2014 01:39 GMT
#4
Nice post! Thx.

GoGo SKT and GoGo Flash!

<3 PL
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
January 12 2014 01:40 GMT
#5
wwoohooo
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
January 12 2014 01:42 GMT
#6
SoO, SK, Rain and SKT, plz make my FPL proud
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#7
BYUL HAS BEEN A FUCKING MEANCE BEING ON MY ANTI TEAM

My captain o captain Zest aka FUCKING WOOKI needs to save me. SAVE ME.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#8
No faith in IM? They've got this week in the bag yo
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 12 2014 01:57 GMT
#9
Soulkey – the best Zerg of 2013

wrong, it was roro
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Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
January 12 2014 02:02 GMT
#10
Come on Flash; show me god-level mech TvP. Make it happen!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 12 2014 02:02 GMT
#11
CJ, IM or KT - someone will finish with 0-2.
If it's gonna be Coach Park's squad this won't be funny anymore.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 12 2014 02:03 GMT
#12
Dis gonna be some goood shit! Love PL and goooo TY!!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 02:23 GMT
#13
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 12 2014 02:53 GMT
#14
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 03:43 GMT
#15
On January 12 2014 11:53 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.

Then look at the teams they have played so far, not really the strong ones..
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 04:04:53
January 12 2014 04:03 GMT
#16
On January 12 2014 12:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 11:53 Bagration wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.

Then look at the teams they have played so far, not really the strong ones..


IM > KT in roster depth though.
Until KT's tosses won't show their A-game, KT can't even contend top-3 in Proleague in playoffs.

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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 12 2014 04:07 GMT
#17
Zealously I want you to be right on the CJ predictions I really do.

Gogo HerO and IM!
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heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
January 12 2014 04:08 GMT
#18
Classic played really well after he switch to protoss, I thought he can definitely has a position in SKT.
Oh well.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 12 2014 04:11 GMT
#19
Why is MVP benching Sniper? makes no sense
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 12 2014 04:20 GMT
#20
On January 12 2014 13:11 Shellshock wrote:
Why is MVP benching Sniper? makes no sense

There's no one super sympathetic on Jin Air for him to crush mercilessly.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 04:25 GMT
#21
On January 12 2014 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 12:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:53 Bagration wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.

Then look at the teams they have played so far, not really the strong ones..


IM > KT in roster depth though.
Until KT's tosses won't show their A-game, KT can't even contend top-3 in Proleague in playoffs.


I don't know man, Stats had to play vs Maru and the ultimate turtle style (roro just know how to use that ^^), let's wait and see how he does in a few hours.
I think SKTT1 can (and will) lose to any top 4 team (and CJ) just cause the format is bo5.
Some people here think that they won't lose any games cause they did beat the "lesser" teams so far, i think that is pretty brave to assume :D
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 12 2014 04:25 GMT
#22
Even if throw away all superstitions and dislike, Sniper is basically only one who had done anything for MVP this season.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 12 2014 04:26 GMT
#23
On January 12 2014 13:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Even if throw away all superstitions and dislike, Sniper is basically only one who had done anything for MVP this season.

I'm srs man, Dream and Super are really good. Give it time.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 12 2014 04:27 GMT
#24
On January 12 2014 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 12 2014 12:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:53 Bagration wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.

Then look at the teams they have played so far, not really the strong ones..


IM > KT in roster depth though.
Until KT's tosses won't show their A-game, KT can't even contend top-3 in Proleague in playoffs.


I don't know man, Stats had to play vs Maru and the ultimate turtle style (roro just know how to use that ^^), let's wait and see how he does in a few hours.
I think SKTT1 can (and will) lose to any top 4 team (and CJ) just cause the format is bo5.
Some people here think that they won't lose any games cause they did beat the "lesser" teams so far, i think that is pretty brave to assume :D


Stats is playing against Rain that's first and there's huge chance that game won't be extended to 4th game, that's second.

Ofc SKT T1 won't end 28-0, noone speaks about it.
But betting on KT in #telecommunicationderby when you have hugely underperfoming protosses against PartinG and Soulkey, who're eating terrans for breakfast is very bold.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 12 2014 04:28 GMT
#25
On January 12 2014 13:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Even if throw away all superstitions and dislike, Sniper is basically only one who had done anything for MVP this season.

I know that's why I'm so confused as to why you would bench your hottest player in the league.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 12 2014 04:30 GMT
#26
If Sniper started beating good, not huge fan favorite players, he wouldn't be evil.

He has to protect his image.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 12 2014 04:31 GMT
#27
On January 12 2014 13:28 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 13:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Even if throw away all superstitions and dislike, Sniper is basically only one who had done anything for MVP this season.

I know that's why I'm so confused as to why you would bench your hottest player in the league.


Dunno.
Probably they think that sOs will lose again and even if DRG loses, they can grab 3-1 win.
But i highly doubt it.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 04:32 GMT
#28
On January 12 2014 13:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 13:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2014 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 12 2014 12:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:53 Bagration wrote:
On January 12 2014 11:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
sktt1 is so overrated, mark my words, they will lose both matches this week! (at least 1 though!)


There are several teams who have lost more matches than SKT has lost games thus far this season.

Then look at the teams they have played so far, not really the strong ones..


IM > KT in roster depth though.
Until KT's tosses won't show their A-game, KT can't even contend top-3 in Proleague in playoffs.


I don't know man, Stats had to play vs Maru and the ultimate turtle style (roro just know how to use that ^^), let's wait and see how he does in a few hours.
I think SKTT1 can (and will) lose to any top 4 team (and CJ) just cause the format is bo5.
Some people here think that they won't lose any games cause they did beat the "lesser" teams so far, i think that is pretty brave to assume :D


Stats is playing against Rain that's first and there's huge chance that game won't be extended to 4th game, that's second.

Ofc SKT T1 won't end 28-0, noone speaks about it.
But betting on KT in #telecommunicationderby when you have hugely underperfoming protosses against PartinG and Soulkey, who're eating terrans for breakfast is very bold.


TY plays vs Soulkey, Zest isn't in the lineup and Flash plays vs Parting Oo
Well we will see, i think Stats isn't that bad, just a bit unlucky.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 04:44:04
January 12 2014 04:42 GMT
#29
So Terrans are playing against PartinG and SoulKey, soO got lovely Frost against Protoss and one PvP later.

Amazing. I'm happy that you're optimistic (:

And about Super and Dream, i'm not doubting their ability to play beautiful but what does MVP have this season? Clean sweep against SKT T1, reverse clean sweep against Prime and one win by Sniper against IM, while other cores except DRG, were smashed by Byul, Squirtle and YongHwa, with latter two probably not making Code S even.
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Frostlone
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia75 Posts
January 12 2014 05:15 GMT
#30
On January 12 2014 13:08 heaveshade wrote:
Classic played really well after he switch to protoss, I thought he can definitely has a position in SKT.
Oh well.

To be fair in a bo5 matchup there is only 4 available spots and in most sets three spots will be taken by the trio (Soulkey, Rain, Parting) so in turn the last is a cometition between the rest and there's still a LOT of depth in the rest.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
January 12 2014 05:31 GMT
#31
On January 12 2014 13:08 heaveshade wrote:
Classic played really well after he switch to protoss, I thought he can definitely has a position in SKT.
Oh well.


He's sharing time about 50/50 with a GSL finalist.
izmatic
Profile Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
January 12 2014 05:41 GMT
#32
TY has been looking revitalized this season. I remember people talking about the toss brain trust when parting went over to skt, but it looks like TY and Flash are putting there heads together to revolutionize Terran
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 12 2014 09:00 GMT
#33
CJ will probably 3-1 SKT by the way
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
January 12 2014 09:02 GMT
#34
So I take it ByuN either retired or he left Prime?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 12 2014 09:04 GMT
#35
On January 12 2014 18:02 SniXSniPe wrote:
So I take it ByuN either retired or he left Prime?

only as much as mvp or fantasy have left their teams

we really don't know
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Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
January 12 2014 09:14 GMT
#36
Whether he's playing or sitting on the bench, Fantasy still manages to break my heart.

*tear*

After the great Coach park article TL just did i really want to see CJ start winning. But looking at these match ups it's really hard to see that happening.
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orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 12 2014 10:48 GMT
#37
why didnt squirtle just build a mothership and archon toilet sora? does that not work?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 12 2014 10:50 GMT
#38
On January 12 2014 19:48 orllyfools wrote:
why didnt squirtle just build a mothership and archon toilet sora? does that not work?

no more vortex

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mothership_(Heart_of_the_Swarm)
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
January 12 2014 11:15 GMT
#39
as much as i want flash and TY to win

i think they are gonna lose
this is a quote
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 12 2014 11:54 GMT
#40
My body is ready, let's go
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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 12:05:51
January 12 2014 12:05 GMT
#41
wrong thread sorry
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1971 Posts
January 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#42
SKT1 but it might be close.
Total Annihilation Zero
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#43
shit son!
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
JinyiWei-
Profile Joined August 2012
United States5 Posts
January 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#44
KT completely won.....
Every game was beatdowns
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#45
On January 12 2014 22:15 JinyiWei- wrote:
KT completely won.....
Every game was beatdowns


ESPECIALLY PARTING VS FLASH
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1971 Posts
January 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#46
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...
Total Annihilation Zero
Quixotic_tv
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 13:22:51
January 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#47
LOL, what was that?

I loved it. No one is unbeatable.

Flash lost pretty hard imo.

Poor Soulkey. I'd ragequit so hard if that happened to me.
Life always finds a way.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 13:27 GMT
#48
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...

I could bet perfectly fine
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 12 2014 13:28 GMT
#49
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 13:56:01
January 12 2014 13:53 GMT
#50
On January 12 2014 22:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan


Actually i was a scbw SKT1 fan. I dont care that much about sc2 proleague. CJ Entus one of the best sc2 proleague teams losing matches vs "weaker" teams looks kinda random to me.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 12 2014 13:59 GMT
#51
On January 12 2014 22:53 TaShadan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 22:28 Zealously wrote:
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan


Actually i was a scbw SKT1 fan. I dont care that much about sc2 proleague. CJ Entus one of the best sc2 proleague teams losing matches vs "weaker" teams looks kinda random to me.

Mhm how exactly do you know that CJ is superior to KT, Jinair and Samsung (ok i would give you that)
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Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
January 12 2014 14:36 GMT
#52
Looks like Stork will finally end his losing streak, although I would enjoy to see it go on.
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
January 12 2014 18:05 GMT
#53
I want to see some fantasy!! I just assumed he and oov entered a hyperbolic time chamber to train and come up with ridiculous builds
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 12 2014 23:47 GMT
#54
Rain not being fielded T_T

Rain why did you stop practicing or reach a slump after such a dominating performance at your last tournament
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 13 2014 09:08 GMT
#55
PartinG gave Flash such an evil look in that front page picture, I guess now we know why, still happy the better KT won
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 13 2014 14:13 GMT
#56
KT best KT.

TY is the best thing to happen to KT since Flash joined.
Flash | Mvp
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 13 2014 14:29 GMT
#57
Great Games so far in Proleague im a happy panda, Kespa Hwaiting ♥
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
January 14 2014 00:14 GMT
#58
Zero TvT? I am definitely down!
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
January 14 2014 07:41 GMT
#59
skt just needs jaedong for dat perfect lineup
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 14 2014 11:41 GMT
#60
On January 12 2014 22:53 TaShadan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 22:28 Zealously wrote:
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan


Actually i was a scbw SKT1 fan. I dont care that much about sc2 proleague. CJ Entus one of the best sc2 proleague teams losing matches vs "weaker" teams looks kinda random to me.



If the "better" team should by default beat the "weaker" team then there would be no reason whatsoever to play the games. Just decide which team is the best out of those listed and give them the trophy.

Just because a team looks good on paper, or consists of a bunch of good individual players, does not mean they're better as a team. Its all down to how good they are on the day of any particular match; and CJ Entus hasn't been doing the business despite their perceived strength.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
January 14 2014 12:16 GMT
#61
On January 12 2014 22:53 TaShadan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 22:28 Zealously wrote:
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan


Actually i was a scbw SKT1 fan. I dont care that much about sc2 proleague. CJ Entus one of the best sc2 proleague teams losing matches vs "weaker" teams looks kinda random to me.

CJ is not really one of the best sc2 proleague teams
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 14 2014 13:41 GMT
#62
On January 14 2014 21:16 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 22:53 TaShadan wrote:
On January 12 2014 22:28 Zealously wrote:
On January 12 2014 22:21 TaShadan wrote:
Sc2 is so random. Hard to bet...


Salty SKT fan


Actually i was a scbw SKT1 fan. I dont care that much about sc2 proleague. CJ Entus one of the best sc2 proleague teams losing matches vs "weaker" teams looks kinda random to me.

CJ is not really one of the best sc2 proleague teams

Based on 5 matches where at least one player flopped each match? I dno Kev
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