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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 31 2013 22:53 GMT
#21
On January 01 2014 07:51 Sawofhackness wrote:
When the interest wanes - the sponsors drop - the money dries up quickly

It's phenomenally expensive to run a team - it's often done on passion and sheer enthusiasm rather than business acumen - a lot of these "CEOs" are just normal guys with little or no experience

Great when the game is highly popular - a sinking ship when the viewer numbers diminish

Competitive computer games are not like competitive sports in a business sense - football is here to stay, so is tennis, so is golf.. computer games? 100 come out a year.. the market is heavily saturated.. it's highly focused (LoL players watch LoL, SC players watch SC, counter-strike players watch counter-strike).. and so on and so on

SC2 is on the decline.. when the next expansion is released there will be a brief spike of interest, before it spirals down into grassroots only competition, few pro-players and so on

I've been there for the rise of some of the first E-sports games, even playing on teams at their peaks, then their slow deaths, and there for the next big FPS game, the peak.. rinse repeat.. the same with the companies.. seen dozens go down.. when the popularity drops, it's just a black hole for money

I love games, and I was hoping for SC2 to gain "critical mass" to form a chain-reaction of popularity across the globe - it almost almost did, but not quite. We've had the golden years. I still love it, enjoy it, but we all know what's happening.

There's still a couple of years left in SC2 and will continue to enjoy, even behemoths like LoL will have limited shelf life - but more people than ever are playing games, from iphones to full on PC's.. so if there's ever a Starcraft 3.. and it's free to play.. mmm

melodramatic half-drunk post





the article says most of the cashflow came from the salary of the team owner. He inherited dad's business with his bros.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 31 2013 22:54 GMT
#22
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

trust sure is hard to come by
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 31 2013 22:58 GMT
#23
Sounds like we got a case of broken promises here!
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 31 2013 23:01 GMT
#24
Not much of a surprise after the Massan incident with respect to the payment thing. As for the biopsy on his lung, I could excuse lack of communication given a medical condition like cancer.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
December 31 2013 23:02 GMT
#25
All I can say is...

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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 31 2013 23:05 GMT
#26
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396562

I don't follow team dynamics all that much but what happened to the old owner and when did the director of esports take over the owner's position?
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
December 31 2013 23:10 GMT
#27
Money that didn't go where it was supposed to? No news in e-sports
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Jayp
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Argentina116 Posts
December 31 2013 23:14 GMT
#28
On January 01 2014 08:05 JBright wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396562

I don't follow team dynamics all that much but what happened to the old owner and when did the director of esports take over the owner's position?


I believe Simon bought out Ozz's portion of the deal (speculations here) Just never really announced new ownership etc.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 31 2013 23:15 GMT
#29
I find it amusing that first quantic died because the previous owner is too eager, now neo-quantic is dead because the owner is too much of a prick.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-31 23:25:14
December 31 2013 23:16 GMT
#30
On January 01 2014 07:51 Sawofhackness wrote:
When the interest wanes - the sponsors drop - the money dries up quickly

It's phenomenally expensive to run a team - it's often done on passion and sheer enthusiasm rather than business acumen - a lot of these "CEOs" are just normal guys with little or no experience

Great when the game is highly popular - a sinking ship when the viewer numbers diminish

Competitive computer games are not like competitive sports in a business sense - football is here to stay, so is tennis, so is golf.. computer games? 100 come out a year.. the market is heavily saturated.. it's highly focused (LoL players watch LoL, SC players watch SC, counter-strike players watch counter-strike).. and so on and so on

SC2 is on the decline.. when the next expansion is released there will be a brief spike of interest, before it spirals down into grassroots only competition, few pro-players and so on

I've been there for the rise of some of the first E-sports games, even playing on teams at their peaks, then their slow deaths, and there for the next big FPS game, the peak.. rinse repeat.. the same with the companies.. seen dozens go down.. when the popularity drops, it's just a black hole for money

I love games, and I was hoping for SC2 to gain "critical mass" to form a chain-reaction of popularity across the globe - it almost almost did, but not quite. We've had the golden years. I still love it, enjoy it, but we all know what's happening.

There's still a couple of years left in SC2 and will continue to enjoy, even behemoths like LoL will have limited shelf life - but more people than ever are playing games, from iphones to full on PC's.. so if there's ever a Starcraft 3.. and it's free to play.. mmm

melodramatic half-drunk post





This ceo was in over his head with daddy's money. If you don't know how to run a team don't just create one off of your passion because esports will be better off without it we don't want you here if you can't pay your players(when you make a contract saying you will pay them) and you can't treat them decently. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431056&currentpage=10#189 (read post in spoiler) you don't need to be a business man to not react like that.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 31 2013 23:25 GMT
#31
sounds like he ran out of money and had no idea how to make more. Destiny should open an e-sports consultancy, help all owners who arent liquid/eg to set up a series of good streams for that cash revenue. in bitcoin.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
December 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#32
AGAIN? Geez....
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#33
On January 01 2014 07:51 Sawofhackness wrote:
melodramatic half-drunk post



I appreciate your honesty
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#34
GG Quantic
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 31 2013 23:42 GMT
#35
On January 01 2014 07:49 Noocta wrote:
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On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?


6 digit over a year. 1300 a month is minimal wage where I live, but for a progamer that's pretty decent I guess.


It's a lot more compared to what a lot and I do mean a lot of other players used to make. Look at what some foreigners were making in BW. Now look at what a lot of KeSPA players were making for BW. Not everyone gets good salary.

As for the CEO, we've heard all the stories about this guy. I cannot say anything good about him so I'll leave it at that.
Whitley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States238 Posts
December 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#36
Hope Hyun gets his monies! All the negative sc2 mess makes me sad.. But I'ma keep playing!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#37
Not surprising to me, after the whole Massan mess I got a feeling that Quantic was dead in the water.
The curse is real
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
December 31 2013 23:54 GMT
#38
There is really a need of an international head(company/union) of esports teams. There are like half a duzend that are solid and the rest is kinda dubious and shady.

Stuff like that is "hurting ... you know" not shit like balance or Riot.
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
December 31 2013 23:58 GMT
#39
On January 01 2014 07:50 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?

Probably not. I remember the salary of Stephano that was leaked once was about 9k a month, so I doubt that JD gets much more. Flash I don't know, but I don't think he gets anything close to his BW salary these days.

9k a month is 6-digits. 108k per year.
The Turtle Moves
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#40
On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?


They got that in BW... we don't know for certain if they still get as much in pure salary. If I had to guess I'd say it went down, although I'm sure Jaedong at least got some nice prize money earnings by now in SC2, and he streams.
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